"Let's Be Serious".....Next Coach Edition

[sdogo]

Wade Phillips is in the process of riding into the sunset of his coaching time in Dallas like a fat Cowboy on a lame horse. IMO they both need a bullet in the head and made into glue but Jerry simply does not want to pull the trigger. Well not now anyways. Not unless Stephen puts the bullets in the gun and helps his daddy along much like he did with TO.

The good news is, at some point and I predict no later then January 3rd either the fat man with a small brain will waddle his way out of Valley Ranch or be given the grand exit treatment but it will come to an end and a new era will begin.

With that comes the excitement of change and dreams of Super Bowls. The names are already being thrown around. Some lavish, some from the depths of the NCAA college ranks. Either way, everyone has an opinion and a suggestion.

I have been actively perusing all the scoops, all the stories, all the rumors and every bit of information I can scrounge up like an addict trying to get one more fix. I have learned to try and be "selective" with my sources. Much like a coach, I got a roster of contributors that include JAG's and Superstars. Every once in a while, less often then you wish a JAG makes a play which is why you just don't trust them to always come through. Well in this case, they are contributing on a even playing field.

As the weeks progress I'll try to separate the cream from the milk in order to serve up a sweet a delicious look into how the search for the next Cowboys coach will unfold. It will be a little knowledge mixed in with rumor and tossed with a helping of gut feeling and cooked slowly over the next 9 weeks.

This weeks installment simply lists the names. I'm currently working on the details. As I complete my research I'll break down each candidate and explain why they should be considered and why they should not. How it would work and just who might join them to fill out the staff.

FRONT RUNNERS:

Jason Garrett - Current OC with the Dallas Cowboys
Bill Cowher - Former Steelers HC and current analyst for CBS

MOVING UP:

John Fox - Current Carolina HC
Brian Billick - Current Fox Analyst

MAKING A RUN FOR IT:

Jon Gruden - Current Monday Night Football Announcer
Marty Schottenheimer - Current Analyst for ESPN

HOT NAMES MAKING A MOVE:

Mike Holmgren - Current Browns President
Leslie Frazier - Current Vikings DC
Norv Turner - Current Chargers HC
Dom Capers - Current Packers DC

SLEEPERS:

Ray Sherman - Current Cowboys WR Coach
Denny Green - Current HC of the Sacramento Lions of the UFL
Rob Ryan - Current Browns DC
Steve Mariucci - Current analyst on NFL Network
Mike Pettine - Current Jets DC
Greg Williams - Current DC for New Orleans

JUST GIVE IT UP ALREADY:

Jimmy Johnson - Current Fox Analyst
Jim Harbaugh - Current HC of Stanford
Ron Rivera - Current Chargers DC
Jeff Fisher - Current Titans HC
Every current NCAA name that is hot

This is a fluid list and in a effort not to beat a dead horse the final list will not be touched on anymore. As I gain more information names may be added and removed. Front runner may become evident.

In the mean time I would like your input. What do you think of the coaches mentioned. Perhaps you mention something that causes me to dig a little deeper with my sources. Maybe together we can play along with Jerry and see how close we get when the bullets start to fly.

I know I did not exactly break any information here but I can promise you that you can take a look at my list and know it was compiled only after a great deal of information has been received which in it's own right could be a little glimpse of what some of my sources are saying but MUCH more will revealed as the weeks progress.

This being my first post here I want to thank all the members for having me and the multiple invites received before registering today.

Thanks again:thumbsup

 

[Sheik]

I'll comment on the front runners.

Garrett-

I was all about this guy being the next head coach, I happen to believe he's one if not the best offensive mind in the game. His promotion comes with negatives, imo. This team is lacking an identity, it's lacking an environment that it lost 4 years ago. Jerry is the only thing that matters in the grand scheme of things, imo. These players answer to their owner, not the head coach. How much does that change with Garrett? Would his headset have batteries in it? I'm not so sure. Maybe there's a respect factor. I doubt it.

Cowher-

There's been a lot of speculation with Cowher, at first I hated the idea. I'm warming to it because I think Cowher mean less Jerry. That's pretty much what I'm hoping for. Less Jerry Jones. Players not having a direct line to Jerry when stuff goes down that they don't like. Cowher comes with Steeler stinch all over him, but he also brings something that we lost 4 years ago, and that would be a coach that is no nonsense and demands his players be accountable.

 

[Sheik]

Billick, Gruden and Marty S wouldn't send me over the edge. Not my first choices, but I could live with them. I've always liked Marty eventhough his teams are not great after week 17.

 

[sdogo]

I'll comment on the front runners.

Garrett-

I was all about this guy being the next head coach, I happen to believe he's one if not the best offensive mind in the game. His promotion comes with negatives, imo. This team is lacking an identity, it's lacking an environment that it lost 4 years ago. Jerry is the only thing that matters in the grand scheme of things, imo. These players answer to their owner, not the head coach. How much does that change with Garrett? Would his headset have batteries in it? I'm not so sure. Maybe there's a respect factor. I doubt it.

I'll get more into this later but I believe Garrett could be a huge success with the right supportive staff. I think he needs veteran coaches who demand respect and can take over their area's with out much input from Garrett to allow him to focus on the basic of being a NFL head coach.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself and will touch on this later but I see a staff consisting of Garrett as HC, Norv Turner as OC and John Fox as DC as a very real possibility. Yes I know Fox runs a 4-3 but that's what Garrett prefers and after a long failed trial run I'm sure Jerry could easily be convinced to switch and Dallas would not have that much work to do if they did.

 

[Sheik]

I'll get more into this later but I believe Garrett could be a huge success with the right supportive staff. I think he needs veteran coaches who demand respect and can take over their area's with out much input from Garrett to allow him to focus on the basic of being a NFL head coach.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself and will touch on this later but I see a staff consisting of Garrett as HC, Norv Turner as OC and John Fox as DC as a very real possibility. Yes I know Fox runs a 4-3 but that's what Garrett prefers and after a long failed trial run I'm sure Jerry could easily be convinced to switch and Dallas would not have that much work to do if they did.

Not sure how I feel about that whole scenario. One thing is for certain, this 3-4 really has never reached it's full potential. It's never confused anyone, I'm not partial to either defense, just give me one that creates some opportunities for short fields.

That's a lot to digest just looking at the things that would need to unfold in order for that staff to come together.

 

[dbair1967]

My comments next to names:

FRONT RUNNERS:

Jason Garrett - Current OC with the Dallas Cowboys- at one time, he was undoubtedly the #1 candidate, might have been the only candidate. Not anymore. I still think he'll be a good HC for somebody though, but I doubt it will be here. Further, if Garrett was definitely the guy I really think Wade would already be gone.
Bill Cowher - Former Steelers HC and current analyst for CBS- maybe, he'd be the big splash that Jerry will need. I still am not sold on him though and my biggest fear is he will be pulling a Parcells, a big name who only came back for a massive pay day.

MOVING UP:

John Fox - Current Carolina HC- another maybe...Might not be as splashy as Cowher or Gruden, but I thought he always got alot out of limited talent in Carolina. He likes to play physical on offense and defense, which I like.
Brian Billick - Current Fox Analyst- I'd venture to guess he has a zero percent chance here

MAKING A RUN FOR IT:

Jon Gruden - Current Monday Night Football Announcer-- another maybe...might be good for Romo
Marty Schottenheimer - Current Analyst for ESPN--- like Billick, I cant see him having any shot here

HOT NAMES MAKING A MOVE:

Mike Holmgren - Current Browns President--Holmgren is not coming here. I know about all the mutual admiration for/with Jerry, but he's in the next phases of his career
Leslie Frazier - Current Vikings DC--I think he'd get some interest, dont think he'd get the job
Norv Turner - Current Chargers HC---Norv has zero chance to be the HC here
Dom Capers - Current Packers DC--Capers will never get another HC job IMO

SLEEPERS:

Ray Sherman - Current Cowboys WR Coach---would be a Dave Campo type hire, so no way
Denny Green - Current HC of the Sacramento Lions of the UFL---another guy with zero chance
Rob Ryan - Current Browns DC---might begin to get some interviews, though not sure he is ready
Steve Mariucci - Current analyst on NFL Network---has no chance
Mike Pettine - Current Jets DC---maybe, though another that I'm not sure would be ready
Greg Williams - Current DC for New Orleans---dont think he's getting another HC shot either

JUST GIVE IT UP ALREADY:

Jimmy Johnson - Current Fox Analyst---is def not coming back to coach
Jim Harbaugh - Current HC of Stanford---wouldnt rule him out..of the coallege coaches, he will be the best NFL fit...might not want to coach in the NFL though
Ron Rivera - Current Chargers DC----no, not happening
Jeff Fisher - Current Titans HC---if he got out of his deal, no doubt Jerry would jump at him
Every current NCAA name that is hot---other than Harbaugh and maybe Ferentz, there isnt a college coach who has a chance in hell in the NFL

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

This is Starting out to be an excellent thread, now I'm just hoping to hear sometime this morning .... " Presser at the Ranch today, speculation is that ........ "

 

[Midswat]

I want one of the following:

1. Jason Garret as head coach, but I think Ray Sherman gets promoted to OC (JG would retain playcalling duties.) I'd like to see John Fox as DC.

2. John Fox as head coach.


I don't want Cowher, or any of the old retreads (Holmgren, Schotty, Green, Capers, etc). I wouldn't hate Gruden.

And I'd welcome a change back to the 4-3.

 

[Plymkr]

Jason Garrett - Current OC with the Dallas Cowboys..... No way, He is already failed here in Dallas. No need to give him more chances.
Bill Cowher - Former Steelers HC and current analyst for CBS ......Negative, the guy is a bridesmaid and the ENEMY. They tried that once here with the Tuna.

MOVING UP:

John Fox - Current Carolina HC.... Umm, No, why replace an average coach coaching a 1-6 team , with and average coach that coached a 1-6 team.
Brian Billick - Current Fox Analyst..... Errrmm.. Well? Maybe?

MAKING A RUN FOR IT:

Jon Gruden - Current Monday Night Football Announcer......No way, Don't like his scheme. But, to get him off of MNF? Where he is completely annoying. No, still no.
Marty Schottenheimer - Current Analyst for ESPN... NOPE, no reason to have this underachiever.

SLEEPERS: Alright!!! Now we are talking!

Ray Sherman - Current Cowboys WR Coach.. I am good with the new HC of Dallas Keeping Sherman on as WR's coach. I don't think he has the mentality for HC.

Denny Green - Current HC of the Sacramento Lions of the UFL..Serious? Come on now.
Rob Ryan - Current Browns DC.. I can't stand the Ryan's, but, that could work. As DC.
Steve Mariucci - Current analyst on NFL Network... West Offense? No thanks.
Mike Pettine - Current Jets DC ............. Possibly, throw him a bone.
Greg Williams - Current DC for New Orleans.....Only as DC.



This being my first post here I want to thank all the members for having me and the multiple invites received before registering today.

Thanks again:thumbsup

Welcome Bro.


I have to say this with all honesty.

I believe the Dallas Cowboys will go nowhere and do nothing until Jerry Jones steps down from GM, coaching, scouting, etc and just becomes content being an owner. This guy gives me no reason to believe anything he says. Doesn't matter who he hires, it will be the same result.

I do hope and pray I am wrong. But, Dallas is the Raiders of the NFC and Jerry is Al Davis Jr.

The shit ain't working.

 

[Jon88]

I'll get more into this later but I believe Garrett could be a huge success with the right supportive staff. I think he needs veteran coaches who demand respect and can take over their area's with out much input from Garrett to allow him to focus on the basic of being a NFL head coach.

I know I'm getting ahead of myself and will touch on this later but I see a staff consisting of Garrett as HC, Norv Turner as OC and John Fox as DC as a very real possibility. Yes I know Fox runs a 4-3 but that's what Garrett prefers and after a long failed trial run I'm sure Jerry could easily be convinced to switch and Dallas would not have that much work to do if they did.

Hey good to see you joined. I see you had enough of the lame CZ?

 

[sdogo]

Hey good to see you joined. I see you had enough of the lame CZ?

Let's just say we don't see eye to eye on everything. I still have some friends over there.

 

[sdogo]

My comments next to names:

FRONT RUNNERS:

Jason Garrett - Current OC with the Dallas Cowboys- at one time, he was undoubtedly the #1 candidate, might have been the only candidate. Not anymore. I still think he'll be a good HC for somebody though, but I doubt it will be here. Further, if Garrett was definitely the guy I really think Wade would already be gone.
Bill Cowher - Former Steelers HC and current analyst for CBS- maybe, he'd be the big splash that Jerry will need. I still am not sold on him though and my biggest fear is he will be pulling a Parcells, a big name who only came back for a massive pay day.

MOVING UP:

John Fox - Current Carolina HC- another maybe...Might not be as splashy as Cowher or Gruden, but I thought he always got alot out of limited talent in Carolina. He likes to play physical on offense and defense, which I like.
Brian Billick - Current Fox Analyst- I'd venture to guess he has a zero percent chance here

MAKING A RUN FOR IT:

Jon Gruden - Current Monday Night Football Announcer-- another maybe...might be good for Romo
Marty Schottenheimer - Current Analyst for ESPN--- like Billick, I cant see him having any shot here

HOT NAMES MAKING A MOVE:

Mike Holmgren - Current Browns President--Holmgren is not coming here. I know about all the mutual admiration for/with Jerry, but he's in the next phases of his career
Leslie Frazier - Current Vikings DC--I think he'd get some interest, dont think he'd get the job
Norv Turner - Current Chargers HC---Norv has zero chance to be the HC here
Dom Capers - Current Packers DC--Capers will never get another HC job IMO

SLEEPERS:

Ray Sherman - Current Cowboys WR Coach---would be a Dave Campo type hire, so no way
Denny Green - Current HC of the Sacramento Lions of the UFL---another guy with zero chance
Rob Ryan - Current Browns DC---might begin to get some interviews, though not sure he is ready
Steve Mariucci - Current analyst on NFL Network---has no chance
Mike Pettine - Current Jets DC---maybe, though another that I'm not sure would be ready
Greg Williams - Current DC for New Orleans---dont think he's getting another HC shot either

JUST GIVE IT UP ALREADY:

Jimmy Johnson - Current Fox Analyst---is def not coming back to coach
Jim Harbaugh - Current HC of Stanford---wouldnt rule him out..of the coallege coaches, he will be the best NFL fit...might not want to coach in the NFL though
Ron Rivera - Current Chargers DC----no, not happening
Jeff Fisher - Current Titans HC---if he got out of his deal, no doubt Jerry would jump at him
Every current NCAA name that is hot---other than Harbaugh and maybe Ferentz, there isnt a college coach who has a chance in hell in the NFL

Damn D, who do you want to coach this team? lmao

It seems you have like 2 options you could "live with" and no real front runners.

 

[Jon88]

Let's just say we don't see eye to eye on everything. I still have some friends over there.

"We're trying to build something big here."

 

[Cythim]

I think the first discussion we need to have is "who should we hire at GM?"

 

[Plymkr]

I think the first discussion we need to have is "who should we hire at GM?"

AMEN!!!!

 

[sbk92]

I agree. My biggest fear is that we end up with another Parcells and we see the team stock up talent and become a contender again.

That is like Stephen King horror, right there. Give me the ham and eggers who will stick around until they're fired.

 

[sbk92]

I think the first discussion we need to have is "who should we hire at GM?"

Preach on.

 

[Sheik]

This place is severly lacking in homeristic takes.

We are a battered and beaten bunch.

 

[sbk92]

This place is severly lacking in homeristic takes.

We are a battered and beaten bunch.

The homers are humbled right now.

I remember a few short months ago on this very board people laughing at the notion the Cowboys could go 9-7 this year, as one prediction article stated. It was like unthinkable that a team this "talented" could finish with such a meager record.

Right.

Over the last 15 years, those guys have made a living out of being wrong.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Mike Pettine is the only one who really does anything for me. He fits the mold of who I want our next HC to be. Young with previous/current NFL experience of a top unit. I don't quite know what he's like personality wise, but whatever it is, I hope it demands respect. Not into retreads or college coaches.

I will say this though. I will throw up if we hire Denny Green.

BTW SDogo, think any of our old assistant coaches brought in by Parcells can be considered? Todd Bowles perhaps? I believe he was a darkhorse candidate after Bill left. What about Maurice Carthon?