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So Jerry had no input or say when it came to who we drafted or traded? I'm just trying to gauge how much control Jimmy really had. In other words, could Jimmy have traded Herschel or some other player over Jerry's objections?

Jimmy had a stipulation in his contract that ALL football decisions would be made by him. So, to answer your question, no, Jerry had no say. Jimmy may have been a nice guy and let Jerry speak, but he had no final say like he does now.
 

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Jimmy Johnson sets record straight about his time with Cowboys: ‘I had complete and total responsibility over the football operation,’ not Jerry Jones

By Barry Horn / Reporter
bhorn@dallasnews.com

3:52 pm on November 7, 2012 | Permalink
IRVING – Jimmy Johnson said he wasn’t interested in creating controversy but he wanted to set the record straight on Wednesday about his role with the Cowboys in the years he coached the team.


In this Jan. 30, 1994 file photo, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, left, and coach Jimmy Johnson celebrating with the Super Bowl XXVIII trophy after defeating the Buffalo Bills 30-13 at Atlanta's Georgia Dome. (AP)

“The time I was with the team I had complete and total responsibility over the football operation,” Johnson said in a telephone interview from his home in the Florida Keys. “That meant personnel, the draft, coaches, including the strength coach. Everything.

“It was always in my contract.”


Johnson was reacting to comments owner Jerry Jones made in the wake of the Cowboys loss to the Atlanta Falcons. Jones said he ran the Cowboys’ football operation from the day he bought the team in 1989 and would continue to do so.

“When I bought the team, the night I bought it, I said I would be doing what I’m doing and that’s GM the team and making the final decisions on personnel,” Jones said late Sunday night. “That’s the way it’s always been done. We’ve won three Super Bowls doing it that way, so I’m going to do it again.”

Johnson, who coached two of those three Super Bowl teams and has been widely credited for assembling the talent that twice beat the Buffalo Bills and the team that went on to win a third against the Pittsburgh Steelers under Barry Switzer, agreed that Jones held the title of “general manager” but…

“When we signed that first contract Jerry said, ‘I’ll be in charge of the finances, you’ll be in charge of the football,’ we’ll make history,”’Johnson said.

Jones and Johnson arrived in 1989. The Cowboys won Super Bowls after the 1992, 1993 and 1995 seasons.

“Jerry was trying to pay for the Cowboys those first three or four years,” Johnson said. “That’s the way it was.”

In a May 21, 1989 Dallas Morning News story detailing Johnson’s authority with the Cowboys, Jones was quoted saying, “Jimmy is coach and chief executive officer of the Dallas Cowboys. Jimmy has the capacity to run major corporations, so he 
can certainly handle the Cowboys. It’s a unique situation, but he has 
unique abilities.”

But Johnson said Jones wanted more credit when he realized the business end of the Cowboys was not quite as glamorous as the day-to-day football operation.

“In the third or fourth year, Jerry said ‘I want to be part of this. Nobody cares how much money I make, they want to know about a second-string guard,”’ Johnson said.


Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (right) gives a playful shove to former coach Jimmy Johnson before sitting on the FOX NFL set for an interview beforef NFL football action between the Dallas Cowboys and Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Texas Stadium in Irving, Texas on Thanksgiving Day, in this photo from Thursday, November 23, 2006. (Tom Fox / Staff Photographer)

Johnson said when the Cowboys traded with Atlanta for defensive tackle Tony Casillas in training camp before the 1991 season he was surprised to hear Jones taking credit. Johnson said when he told Jones about the trade, the owner was not familiar with Casillas, who had played at the University of Oklahoma and been the second pick of the 1986 draft.

“I was steamed,” Johnson said.

Johnson said that when he negotiated subsequent contracts with Jones, the Cowboys owner was “always very adamant” that clauses detailing Johnson’s control be removed.

“It was always a sticking point with Jerry,” Johnson said. “I would never agree.”

Coincidentally, the Cowboys victory over the Buffalo Bills in Super Bowl XXVIII was the last game Johnson coached for Jones and the Cowboys. It was at the Georgia Dome, the same place Jones made his comments on Sunday. The two had a famous parting of the ways that allowed Jones to bring in Barry Switzer from 1994-1997.

The Cowboys won one playoff game in 1996 and one more since.

“I never said Jerry was not 100 percent into his job and the Cowboys,” Johnson said. “I just want facts to be facts.”

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Jimmy had a stipulation in his contract that ALL football decisions would be made by him. So, to answer your question, no, Jerry had no say. Jimmy may have been a nice guy and let Jerry speak, but he had no final say like he does now.

I seem to recall that during the '92 or '93 draft, Jerry was furious that Jimmy made a trade and didn't inform him before doing so. Maybe he didn't have to.
 

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I seem to recall that during the '92 or '93 draft, Jerry was furious that Jimmy made a trade and didn't inform him before doing so. Maybe he didn't have to.

Read the article above. Jimmy goes into more detail.
 

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I like how everything is coming together. Jerry will soon have to take a step back with all of this attention on how inept he is.

It's several years late but it looks like it will finally happen.
 

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What a fucking attention whore.

Notice Jerry's comments are all, 'we'll make history', 'noone cares how much money I make', but nothing at all having to do with 'winning'.

I thought winning was the ultimate goal, all he cares about? lol Jerry has duped a lot of people, he really is the ultimate salesman.
 

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I like how everything is coming together. Jerry will soon have to take a step back with all of this attention on how inept he is.

It's several years late but it looks like it will finally happen.

Ha! Wishful thinking, never gonna happen until he's six feet under or mentally incapacitated
 

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Jimmy Johnson: Cowboys are a country club
November, 8, 2012

By Calvin Watkins | ESPNDallas.com

IRVING, Texas -- Wednesday was a busy day for former Cowboys coach Jimmy Johnson. He called out owner Jerry Jones for saying he was the general manager when they were together in the 1990s.

Now Johnson is raising questions about the atmosphere at Valley Ranch.

In an interview on the Dan Patrick Show, Johnson put the Cowboys on blast again.

"All the players in this league think they’re self-motivated and that’s a bunch of bull because there are only a handful that are self-motivated," Johnson said. "So you’ve got to motivate these players through some respect but the No. 1 motivator is fear. Fear of letting down your teammates, being embarrassed or fear of losing the job. Where is the fear in Dallas? There’s no fear in Dallas. It’s a country club where everybody is buddies."

We think coach Jason Garrett has changed the climate at Valley Ranch sharply from how it was under Wade Phillips. Of course, Phillips changed the atmosphere from how it was under Bill Parcells. Each time, players said the change was good.

Johnson doesn't seem to have anything personal against the Cowboys overall, but he protested Jones' comments about how he was the general manager when he first purchased the team in 1989.

Johnson has formed a good relationship with Garrett in terms of being a mentor. In the same interview with Patrick, Johnson questioned whether Garrett would remain the man in charge at Valley Ranch.

"Jason Garrett is probably coaching for his job for the rest of the year," Johnson said. "This game with Philadelphia on Fox may decide the future of coaches and players with those two teams."

Maybe Johnson was being Bob Arum, the boxing promoter who hypes fights. And of course with the Eagles and Cowboys at 3-5, the loser most likely will see their playoff hopes disappear. So creating drama is fine.

The quarterback, Tony Romo, who's got one year left on his deal, might also be on the way out according to Johnson.

"I would extend Tony Romo unless I had somebody better, and they don’t have anybody better," Johnson said.
 
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Mort this morning.

In the 90s: No question Jerry's focus was to build the business model, the marketing model, and Jimmy had control of football operations. Jimmy's account is accurate. As the team settled in to being Super Bowl teams, Jerry got the business model right, Jerry admitted he wanted more attention a little more fun, "please let me have my fun, I'm the owner." But as far as building that team, Jimmy enjoyed building the team as much as he did coaching the team, maybe even more so. During that time, no question... As Jerry wanted to get more involved, that's what led to the breakup of the Cowboys and as Troy, Michael will tell you maybe cost the Cowboys being a five-time Super Bowl team, as opposed to a three-time Super Bowl team.

When Bill became the coach, bill had the football voice. Jerry's got the title, he's a consensus builder, he's a good listener, and ultimately he's not interfering. But the problem is there are players who think they can bypass the coaching and go straight to the owner, like Al Davis. Until Jerry fades into the background a little more, it's going to be problematic for whoever's coaching the team. Or it's going to have to be a coach who's so powerful in his own persona to change that dynamic.
 
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Agreed that Jerry will never change.

No need to. The Cowboys brand is too strong. He's got his stadium. He has three Super Bowls. All he cares about is marketing the ever living shit out of the team and squeezing every potential penny out of the brand. Even if it means doing such utterly retarded, mind boggling, and fucked up things as OPENING A GOD DAMNED LINGERIA STORE IN A FOOTBALL STADIUM
 

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I know a lot of us are sick of Garrett, but does anyone ever think that if Jerry would step back, Jason would be a different coach?


I guess we'll never find out unless Jason is fired and hired by another team.
 
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