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Let's see....I'll give you all the players pre-Parcells.

Then I'll give you the entire 2009 draft class. A dozen picks that netted laughable results.

Completely ignoring how bad the offensive line was, which led to the crisis we have this year.

Not recognizing the dire need for a true FS on the team.

Extending Marion Barber and Terence Newman to awful ridiculous contracts.

Hiring Wade Phillips. Then also extending his contract.

I won't include the 2010 draft yet. We shall see on that. Dez looks great but injury prone. Lee looks decent but injury prone. The rest look like dog shat.

The better question would be, what players would I claim Jerry hasn't screwed up here lately.

Yawn, pretty much what I expected
 

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What players would you claim Jerry has screwed up on here lately?

I know what your going to say, because you act like a dipshit when it comes to this subject. But grace us with your infinite wisdom and share what players Jones specifically has added, which clearly have no business being here or anywhere else in the NFL.

Leonard Davis.

He extended Marion Barber after a great, part-time season.

He extended TO when his contract came up, eventually paying him 9 mil to leave.

PacMan Jones.

Traded the sun and the moon to bring in Roy Williams. Whose production could be filled with a 5th round rookie. In fact Johnny Knox has been basically what Roy Williams has been for us.

Now most of these guys have business being in the league, but Jerry really blew the coup.
 
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Leonard Davis.

He extended Marion Barber after a great, part-time season.

He extended TO when his contract came up, eventually paying him 9 mil to leave.

PacMan Jones.

Traded the sun and the moon to bring in Roy Williams. Whose production could be filled with a 5th round rookie. In fact Johnny Knox has been basically what Roy Williams has been for us.

Now most of these guys have business being in the league, but Jerry really blew the coup.

I forgot about a few of them. There's been so many.

Yet in his fantasy land he actually believes that was a legitimate and tricky question.
 

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I forgot about a few of them. There's been so many.

Yet in his fantasy land he actually believes that was a legitimate and tricky question.

That's why I'm a mod, and you're just a regular member lol
 

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Leonard Davis.

He extended Marion Barber after a great, part-time season.

He extended TO when his contract came up, eventually paying him 9 mil to leave.

PacMan Jones.

Traded the sun and the moon to bring in Roy Williams. Whose production could be filled with a 5th round rookie. In fact Johnny Knox has been basically what Roy Williams has been for us.

Now most of these guys have business being in the league, but Jerry really blew the coup.

Leonard Davis was outstanding in 07 and 08, and was a huge upgrade for the RG spot. He was a legit probowler and was not a bad signing.

Barber had been really good for more than just one PT season. He was also considered one of the real emotional leaders of the team. I'm not saying I would have resigned him to that kind of deal either, but its not hard to see why they thought they really needed him, especially with Julius Jones regressing.

Never understood why he signed TO to an extension, but you cant argue with the production he had either. He was a bigtime player.

Pac Trash was a low risk move, we didnt give him anything or give up anything to get him.

We gave up a 1st and 3rd for RW. Considering virtually everyone under the sun was clamoring for us to make a major move to get another WR (including you) its hard to complain about it. RW just hasnt worked out. Hindsight is always 20-20, but at least he cared enough to make a dramatic move, during a season that he thought would help put us over the top.

And if your going to crucify him for a few bad moves, then you have to give him credit when the good moves he makes work out too.

Personally I give him very little credit, and likewise very little blame. We have a talented roster and he pays to acquire and keep good players. Boneheads like SBK skewer him for hiring Wade, but the guy interviewed soemthing like 12-14 people before deciding on Wade, and the reason he picked Wade was legit. He wanted the best 3-4 defensive coach there was to move the mediocre defense to "winning" defense, and for awhile it worked. The defense was vastly improved for 3 yrs under Wade, as compared to what it was under Parcells/Zimmer.
 

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The ramblings of a homer.

This moron just actually said that considering how everyone wanted Dallas to get a WR, it's hard to complain about the Roy Williams deal.

I mean, how do you even respond to that level of complete stupid?
 

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Leonard Davis was outstanding in 07 and 08, and was a huge upgrade for the RG spot. He was a legit probowler and was not a bad signing.

Still, the lazy play that he was accused of in Arizona, finally reappeared in Dallas. You would think that Jerry would have learned from the backfire of signing Marco Rivera to a long-term contract, that things can, and do go wrong when you give free agents huge deals. Especially when they have issues (Rivera was old, and Bigg Davis was lazy). But Jerry never learns, just look at the waste of a season 2009 has ultimately proven to be, at least in the short term.

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Barber had been really good for more than just one PT season. He was also considered one of the real emotional leaders of the team. I'm not saying I would have resigned him to that kind of deal either, but its not hard to see why they thought they really needed him, especially with Julius Jones regressing.

Jerry's problem is that he gets too loyal to players, they should have given Barber at least half a season as the main guy to gauge whether he was deserving of a big contract.

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Never understood why he signed TO to an extension, but you cant argue with the production he had either. He was a bigtime player.

Still, it was clear that his time in Dallas was over.

dbair said:
Pac Trash was a low risk move, we didnt give him anything or give up anything to get him.

Still, it harkens back to the days when Jerry tried to rehabilitate an insane Alonzo Spellman, a time where Jerry was at his most chaotic as pseudo-GM.

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We gave up a 1st and 3rd for RW. Considering virtually everyone under the sun was clamoring for us to make a major move to get another WR (including you) its hard to complain about it. RW just hasnt worked out. Hindsight is always 20-20, but at least he cared enough to make a dramatic move, during a season that he thought would help put us over the top.

We also gave him a ridiculous extension before he did anything.

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And if your going to crucify him for a few bad moves, then you have to give him credit when the good moves he makes work out too.

Personally I give him very little credit, and likewise very little blame. We have a talented roster and he pays to acquire and keep good players. Boneheads like SBK skewer him for hiring Wade, but the guy interviewed soemthing like 12-14 people before deciding on Wade, and the reason he picked Wade was legit. He wanted the best 3-4 defensive coach there was to move the mediocre defense to "winning" defense, and for awhile it worked. The defense was vastly improved for 3 yrs under Wade, as compared to what it was under Parcells/Zimmer.

He also went away from the environment that Bill created, allowing Wade to let the players ridiculously police themselves. And I would think that he himself contributed to that culture because we all know that Jerry has an open door policy concerning players, even under Parcells.
 
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