It’s time to move on from Dez

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[dbair1967]

Forgive me for not giving any credence to what arguably the worst defensive coordinator in the history of football thinks about any player, good or bad.

 

[NoMoRedJ]

Forgive me for not giving any credence to what arguably the worst defensive coordinator in the history of football thinks about any player, good or bad.

Whenever Big Hair Big Belly is on FS1 he lavishes praise on everybody in the NFL.

 

[dbair1967]

Whenever Big Hair Big Belly is on FS1 he lavishes praise on everybody in the NFL.

He still honestly believes he's a great coordinator, even though he failed miserably everywhere he went, save one fluke season.

 

[NoMoRedJ]

He still honestly believes he's a great coordinator, even though he failed miserably everywhere he went, save one fluke season.

Im sure he wants another job. Being nice is his way of showing it.

 

[Doomsday]

Dear Fat Rob, you insipid idiot: if a corner was never worth a shit after one practice against Dez, it wasn't anything to do with Dez. The mother fucker just simply wasn't worth a shit.

 

[dbair1967]

Dear Fat Rob, you insipid idiot: if a corner was never worth a shit after one practice against Dez, it wasn't anything to do with Dez. The mother fucker just simply wasn't worth a shit.

IIRC Carr and Claiborne were both gifts from Fat Rob for us

 

[theoneandonly]

IIRC Carr and Claiborne were both gifts from Fat Rob for us

Yep giving up what turned out likely be Brockers and Wagner to draft a stiff like Caliborne on his insistance, got his fat ass canned.

 

[theoneandonly]

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[NoMoRedJ]

Last night on NFLN LT said Dez is holding out to go to the Giants.

 

[Scot]

I find it amusing that the only teams that are saying anything about Dez are the ones that come out and say that they don’t want to sign him

 

[NoMoRedJ]

At this point if the media wouldnt mention him he'd be an afterthought at best.

 

[Dodger12]

at you guys blaming Rob Ryan for failed draft picks.

 

[dbair1967]

at you guys blaming Rob Ryan for failed draft picks.

at you for acting like Ryan was worth two shits at all.

Dude was a stooge and a terrible defensive coordinator.

 

[Dodger12]

at you deflecting. I never said anything of the sort about Rob Ryan but to act like he was responsible for Claiborne is dumb.

 

[dbair1967]

at you deflecting. I never said anything of the sort about Rob Ryan but to act like he was responsible for Claiborne is dumb.

It was widely reported back then that Ryan was pushing hard for the Cowboys to sign Carr and go up and get Claiborne in the draft.

Did he make the final decision on either? No, obviously not. Did he have an impact on how they ended up here, yes absolutely he did. He reportedly begged Jones and Garrett to invest heavily in the CB position to make his scheme work.

 

[Doomsday]

at you deflecting. I never said anything of the sort about Rob Ryan but to act like he was responsible for Claiborne is dumb.

From fat Rob's quote, it could be argued he was talking about Claiborne getting "ruined by Dez" and it's not outside the realm of possibility that he lobbied for drafting him.

 

[theoneandonly]

Did he make the final decision on either? No, obviously not. Did he have an impact on how they ended up here, yes absolutely he did. He reportedly begged Jones and Garrett to invest heavily in the CB position to make his scheme work.

Hello. Therein lies the problem with a GM that doesnt know what the fuck he is doing. Claiborne had a nice season at LSU before he was drafted but he did not test as an elite athlete, he didnt make plays, and didnt tackle. If they had a GM that watched 5 seconds of film or had a clue at what he was looking at they wouldnt have traded up for Claibone. Add that defenses are built front to back instead of vice/ versa, to take those picks and add them to the front 7 would have been 100% better use of assets.

 

[NoMoRedJ]

Hello. Therein lies the problem with a GM that doesnt know what the fuck he is doing. Claiborne had a nice season at LSU before he was drafted but he did not test as an elite athlete, he didnt make plays, and didnt tackle. If they had a GM that watched 5 seconds of film or had a clue at what he was looking at they wouldnt have traded up for Claibone. Add that defenses are built front to back instead of vice/ versa, to take those picks and add them to the front 7 would have been 100% better use of assets.

Wasnt Mo lauded by a lot of people? Even saying the best CB to come out of college since Deion? Or is my memory bad?

 

[theoneandonly]

Wasnt Mo lauded by a lot of people? Even saying the best CB to come out of college since Deion?

Deion actually was a shut down corner and elite athlete. He couldnt tackle either but thats fine if you are taking the other teams #1 receiver out of the game. I also believe Claiborne had an injury history that was over looked as well.