Going to be a lot of unhappy campers in here after the draft

[peplaw06]

At the end of the day OLB is just as big of a hole as any other position..sure, we have spencer this year, but big deal..he is a goner..you don't draft for this season, you draft for the future..just so happens that there aren't any OLBs worth taking at 14.. So we don't really have to worry about it..however, if there was an OLB worth taking and he was the BPA, I guarantee you he'd be the pick bc OLB is a need

I'm not saying I'm going to be unhappy if we go OLB at some point. But IMO, we need to spend the premium picks on where we do have holes, so long as we're not reaching dramatically. CB is similar. We have 3 CBs for this year who if healthy should be good enough. I'm not going to be unhappy just because we take a CB, because who knows about Jenkins and next year. But if we ignore a DL, OG or S who's not a reach at a premium pick and go with one of these less immediate needs, I'm going to be a little perturbed.

And lol at the "you don't draft for this season, you draft for the future" line. It's all the future.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

I'm not saying I'm going to be unhappy if we go OLB at some point. But IMO, we need to spend the premium picks on where we do have holes, so long as we're not reaching dramatically. CB is similar. We have 3 CBs for this year who if healthy should be good enough. I'm not going to be unhappy just because we take a CB, because who knows about Jenkins and next year. But if we ignore a DL, OG or S who's not a reach at a premium pick and go with one of these less immediate needs, I'm going to be a little perturbed.

And lol at the "you don't draft for this season, you draft for the future" line. It's all the future.

Just saying it would be stupid if we did this

Player A = good DE and starter from day 1

Player B = stud/lockdown CB and #4 CB day 1 bc we have Jenkins but develops into that stud cb..but we take player A bc he's an immediate need

Clearly B is the guy we'd rather have even if his immediate impact in year 1 might be less

But we're pretty much on the same page

 

[UVAwahoos]

I agree with the need to avoid tunnel vision. They knew Newman has been steadily declining, but they just ignored the position outside of that push for Nnamdi. They need to stop waiting for things to fall apart before thinking about fixing them.

 

[Iamtdg]

The biggest needs in my mind in order:

1. Interior OL
2. DL
3. OLB
4. S
5. CB

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

This team has an incredible amount of holes

Dline
Oline
CB
OLB (spencer wants 10M/yr-BYE)
S
WR
TE

It's impossible to fill all of these holes in one draft...given our situation, I think it would be smartest to just select the BPA at these positions and call it a day...

Because this is our situation, some people are going to want to address certain areas, while others want to address others...leading to many unhappy people

We don't need to fill all of those holes in one draft. Many are not holes at all. I'd take CB off the list along with WR.

 

[peplaw06]

Just saying it would be stupid if we did this

Player A = good DE and starter from day 1

Player B = stud/lockdown CB and #4 CB day 1 bc we have Jenkins but develops into that stud cb..but we take player A bc he's an immediate need

Clearly B is the guy we'd rather have even if his immediate impact in year 1 might be less

But we're pretty much on the same page

It would be stupid for anyone to pass up on a stud/lockdown CB in favor of a serviceable DE. I would presume the stud/lockdown CB would be rated higher than the serviceable DE. If we're picking between Claiborne and Brockers for example, I'm taking Claiborne and running. But if it's two guys who we have rated equally (or close) on our big board and we take the CB over the DL, OG or S, I'm gonna be scratching my head.

Of course, I don't know what the Cowboys board looks like, so it's all based on your personal feelings on a guy. Which means it turns into a hindsight type thing, because we're not professionals. If Gilmore turns into Darelle Revis and Fletcher Cox is Kenyon Coleman, then yeah it would be stupid.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

We're going to be hearing a lot of Randy Moss comparisons after we pass on DeCastro.

 

[dbair1967]

We'll be a better team after the draft. Pretty confident in that.

Good offseason so far, could be a really strong one with a couple of really good early picks next week.

 

[Iamtdg]

We'll be a better team after the draft. Pretty confident in that.

Glad someone is.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

^^ban him, dbair.

 

[dbair1967]

lol

 

[overused]

you take Jeremy Ebert, PR/KR/SWR, Northwestern

5'11 #200

in the late rounds plus hes a lot faster than J Adams

40 in 4.38
20 in 2.53
10 in 1.54

Career Receiving: 173 Rec, 2400 Yds, 13.9 Avg, 21 TD
Career Kick Returns: 5 Ret, 86 Yds, 17.2 Avg, 0 TD

2011 numbers 75 catches 1060 yards

Jeremy Ebert, WR, Northwestern: For a player with 173 career receptions in college, Ebert is far from a household name and hasn't received much attention in the pre-draft process. But after an impressive on-campus workout during Northwestern's pro day, perhaps that will change. Ebert, who didn't receive an invitation to the NFL Combine,

ran his 40-yard dashes in the high 4.3's and low 4.4's, showing better-than-expected speed for the 20 teams in attendance. He also impressed with his numbers in the other drills, including the vertical jump (33 inches), broad jump (9'4) and short shuttle (4.15).

Also, Ebert's time of 6.70 in the 3-cone drill would have ranked him third among all receivers at the Combine. He is a reliable possession receiver with soft hands and very good focus to make challenging catches. Ebert tracks the ball well and shows savvy and toughness on the field that shows up on tape.

He is still widely viewed as a late round player or priority free agent, but he is moving up draft boards for most teams

 

[junk]

This team has plenty of needs.

The draft is strong in certain areas of need.....specifically, interior OL (especially guard) and cornerback. Not bad at WR, which I do think is a need. Your top two are exactly consistent when it comes to playing a full season and your third WR right now is one of Ogletree, Radway, Holmes, Teddy Williams or Dwayne Harris.

I think I'm most worried that this team tries to draft to areas that are needs, but not strengths of the draft. The safeties and pass rushers in this draft are pretty underwhelming. Barron is getting a lot of interest and Jerry spent some time this offseason talking about copying the Giants pass rush.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Luck
Griffen
Kalil
Trent
Blackmon
Claireborne
Reiff
Tanenhill
8^

Kuechly
Cox
Poe
Michael Floyd
Glenn
decastro
Cox
Coples
Brockers

That's another tier of 9. We pick 14.

If Floyd and brockers are the bpa then that's probably the worst case scenario for us.


But even still mathematically speaking we will have one of Coples, cox, kuechly, Poe, Glenn, or Cassie avaiable.

I didn't even include Ingram, Barron, or upshaw.

There aren't enough players in the trenches for you to make all this happen..

Cox
Coples
Decastro
Glenn
Brockers
Poe

That's it..some of those will be available at 14.. Once you move down, they could be all gone..then what do you do if you lose out on all these guys? Take Brockers at 14 and call it a day..dude has unlimited potential

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Luck
Griffen
Kalil
Trent
Blackmon
Claireborne
Reiff
Tanenhill
8^

Kuechly
Cox
Poe
Michael Floyd
Glenn
decastro
Cox
Coples
Brockers

That's another tier of 9. We pick 14.

If Floyd and brockers are the bpa then that's probably the worst case scenario for us.


But even still mathematically speaking we will have one of Coples, cox, kuechly, Poe, Glenn, or Cassie avaiable.

I didn't even include Ingram, Barron, or upshaw.

Kuechly has no fit on this team
Coples might not even be on our draft board

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

But kuechly is a top 10 player. So him being the bpa is ok for us bc someone would want to jump Philly to get him.

if he's taken cox/Cassie is there for us. If he's there we can trade down + pick up Glenn/brockers/Barron/coples/upshaw/Ingram

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

But kuechly is a top 10 player. So him being the bpa is ok for us bc someone would want to jump Philly to get him.

if he's taken cox/Cassie is there for us. If he's there we can trade down + pick up Glenn/brockers/Barron/coples/upshaw/Ingram

Philly just got Ryans..bigger need for them is DT..they are taking whoever we don't

 

[overused]

Philly just got Ryans..bigger need for them is DT..they are taking whoever we don't

like add a all pro G DeCasto

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

like add a all pro G DeCasto

Doubt it. Would be most uncharacteristic of the Eagles to draft an OG in the 1st round for consecutive years. They just loss Jason Peters for the entire year, DeCastro doesn't help them in that regards.

Word is that the Eagles were one of the teams looking to move up.