Giants' Coughlin rips into overweight Pierre-Paul

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Giants' Coughlin rips into overweight Pierre-Paul

By BART HUBBUCH
Last Updated: 10:26 AM, March 21, 2013
Posted: 2:53 AM, March 21, 2013
Giants Blog

PHOENIX — Tom Coughlin is down on JPP.

Jason Pierre-Paul might be one of the Giants’ biggest stars, but Coughlin made it clear yesterday the young defensive end isn’t immune from public criticism by his coach.

Speaking at the NFL’s annual meetings, Coughlin revealed that Pierre-Paul reported to training camp overweight last summer and struggled much of the year to get rid of the extra pounds.

The surplus weight may have played a role in the back issues that hindered Pierre-Paul in 2012, not to mention a stunning dropoff in sack production that prompted Coughlin to do what few in the Giants’ organization have done publicly — express disappointment in the former first-round pick.

“He didn’t play as well as the year before,” Coughlin said glumly before shrugging his shoulders when asked why he thought Pierre-Paul plummeted from 16.5 sacks during the Giants’ 2011 Super Bowl run to 6.5 sacks last season.

Coughlin admitted Pierre-Paul’s weight was an issue much of the year. Coughlin wouldn’t specify how overweight Pierre-Paul was when he reported to camp, but the coach said it took well into the second half of the schedule to get him back to his ideal weight of 275 pounds.

“He was big when he came to camp,” Coughlin said.

Coughlin also doesn’t appear to be buying Pierre-Paul’s excuse that the extra weight was acceptable because it was more muscle than body fat.

“There’s not a lot of body fat [with Pierre-Paul], yes, but still ...” Coughlin said, the frustration obvious in his voice.

Coughlin also revealed during an hour-long chat at the NFC coaches breakfast that he had tried to hire new Eagles coach Chip Kelly as a quality-control aide in 2007.

Kelly turned him down because he wanted to be a position coach, and six years later will coach against Coughlin at least twice a season in the NFC East.

Kelly is one of several coaches who will use the read option offense that came into such vogue last year with Robert Griffin III and Colin Kaepernick, prompting what Coughlin admits is a lot of preparation and filmwork this offseason for himself and his coaches.

“We’re studying it, and we’re reaching out to all the college coaches that my assistants know,” Coughlin said. “With two teams in our division running that offense [the Eagles and Redskins], we’re going to have be ready for it — no matter what.”

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[Bob Sacamano]

This is why the man is one of the best head coaches this generation has seen. He's not afraid to give underperforming players, even his star ones, the business.

Felix Jones shows up out of shape, publicly humiliates himself and the org by failing a conditioning drill; and our head coach says he still plans to be a big part of the offense.

Also why Coughlin has 2 Super Bowl rings while Garrett is still searching for his 1st playoff game appearance.

 

[Jon88]

^Exactly. Felix should have been cut on the spot because he sucks anyway. You make examples out of people like that.

 

[eagle-9r-sknh8r]

Keep eating those twinkies fatass

 

[cmd34(work)]

They should trade him, to us, for a 7th rounder in 2014. That'll teach him.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

This is why the man is one of the best head coaches this generation has seen. He's not afraid to give underperforming players, even his star ones, the business.

Felix Jones shows up out of shape, publicly humiliates himself and the org by failing a conditioning drill; and our head coach says he still plans to be a big part of the offense.

Also why Coughlin has 2 Super Bowl rings while Garrett is still searching for his 1st playoff game appearance.

Garrett talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. Another thing... Coughlion is smart enough to not be the playcaller, and allow someone else to do it.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

^Exactly. Felix should have been cut on the spot because he sucks anyway. You make examples out of people like that.

That's what I don't understand. They fucking cut Gurode, and he was a greater asset to this team than Felix. Mind you, I had no problem with them cutting Gurode, because 1.) it was the right thing to do, and 2.0 it fit with Garrett's supposed player accountability.

 

[Jon88]

There's no accountability on this team. Like everyone says, it's a big country club owned by a stupid hillbilly who goes around patting everyone on the back. It's a fucking joke.

 

[Hoofbite]

There's nothing Garrett can do. He has to run things by Jerry first and Jerry isn't about to do anything but cater to his players, even the shitty ones.

I remember on Hard Knocks Wade called Spencer in for missing rehab time, "well, ya know it hurts me a lot more than it does you but uh......we're gonna have to fine you a whole $100 for missing a day of work".

Or how about when Barber basically told Jason to stuff his dress code all up in his freckly ass. "We keep that in-house". Which basically means that we didn't do anything about it but we'd like you to think we did.

Like Jerry is ever going to stop being Jerry. He did it once and then admitted that it was for a new stadium.

Jerry is never going to stop being a coddling bitch. He's like the guy that would rather be well liked even if he isn't respected because being "cool" with all the younger kids strokes the ego a lot more than being hated and respected by them. The players respect Jerry's generosity, not his wealth of knowledge or proven ways.

You notice what happened with Ratliff? The moment Jerry was anything other than nice, Jay told him to go fuck himself. Jerry allowed Jay to use his plane to attend a funeral, he's given him financial security and he's likely bent over backwards for the guy the entire time Jay has been a contributor. And now he's even giving him a pass on the DUI a short while after one of his teammates died because another teammate was driving drunk. Jerry thinks he can charm everyone into thinking he's a great football mind and that he can buy these player's respect. Truth is, they only respect his generosity. When he's not trying to buy their good graces with winks and smiles, what they really think of him comes out and that's how you get a guy like Ratliff to tell you to go fuck yourself.

I can't imagine many other owners getting told that type of stuff and I would be pissed at Jay if it weren't for the fact that Jerry has earned it.

He treats them like they are his kids by spoiling them. He thinks keeping them all little happy campers will make these guys give their 110%, A+ effort every week. That's bullshit. Everyone knows it and everyone sees it when a guy who's holding the team back constantly gets showered in praise simply because he's on the roster. Kind of defeats the purpose of acknowledging individuals if everyone gets good grades no matter what.

I'd rather have an owner who the team would rather not "be cool with" and who know that they will get their asses sent down the road if they absolutely don't give everything they got.

Coughlin saying this puts JPP on notice. If he shows up fat again this summer, the media will tear into his ass. The fans will pick it up and he'll be known as a lazy bum and having the ire of the fans pissing on you is never a good thing. Same reason why Parcells would shit on guys in press conferences. He knew that the media would run with it and that these guys would have to hear it every single day until they finally figured their shit out. He also knew that if nobody expects you to acknowledge their successes that it has a little more significance to it when you actually do.

The guy literally told Jason Witten that he sucked just before he left. Keeping ego's in check and thus keeping players determined and striving to get better is a big part of coaching. Pretty hard to do when king ego stroker is standing behind you looking for any player he can find to congratulate for being so awesome.

 

[Theebs]

Bradie James did a similar thing this year. He was asked about the differences in Houston and Dallas and he said the owner in Houston is not on tv, the radio, in the locker room etc.

When he was here getting that big extension by Jerry he always defended him to the local media.

Maybe it's just sour grapes, but it's obvious the players know the deal.

I will never forget zach Thomas saying that it was the worst locker room he had ever been in at the end of that 08 season, that season was all Jerry. Enabling Owens, signing pacman....telling everyone how good we were every day, hard knocks etc.

I wish we had a Tom coughlin. Instead we got a wade Phillips who wrecked the climate and the personnel and now we have Garrett who seemingly was given to much responsibility.

 

[Midswat]

The last two posts summed it up perfectly.

Jerry cares more about being 'one of the guys' than anything else. It haunts him. For as successful as he is, he's a very insecure, weak man.

 

[iceberg]

The last two posts summed it up perfectly.

Jerry cares more about being 'one of the guys' than anything else. It haunts him. For as successful as he is, he's a very insecure, weak man.

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire. much less the owner of a top franchise in sports.

he sees the next step or two. not the entire picture.

 

[2233boys]

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire. much less the owner of a top franchise in sports.

he sees the next step or two. not the entire picture.

Really, someone who asks publicly if he'll get credit if Dallas wins isn't insecure? He may not be weak but he has no idea how to run a football franchise.

 

[Hoofbite]

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire. much less the owner of a top franchise in sports.

he sees the next step or two. not the entire picture.

Meanwhile Donald Trump still parades around with a hairdo that has been obviously fake for the last couple decades.

 

[Hoofbite]

Yeah, Jerry Jones isn't insecure. It's all the health benefits of facial plastic surgery that he's going after.

 

[2233boys]

Yeah, Jerry Jones isn't insecure. It's all the health benefits of facial plastic surgery that he's going after.

Great point

 

[jeebus]

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire

I disagree, I think you would to if you thought about what you said.

 

[jeebus]

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire

I disagree, I think you would to if you thought about what you said.

 

[jeebus]

Multiple posts make you right.

 

[Rynie]

an insecure, weak, man would never be a millionaire. much less the owner of a top franchise in sports.

he sees the next step or two. not the entire picture.

What? So, millionaires are automatically void of posessing any mental problems are character flaws? That's interesting Dr. Iceberg. Please, tell us more.