Football Life on Troy Aikman

[FanSince61]

Who was the coach Aikman was talking about to Jack Reilly? Switzer or Gailey

 

[yimyammer]

Who was the coach Aikman was talking about to Jack Reilly? Switzer or Gailey

He was the QB coach under Switzer in 97'

and then the Offensive coordinator from 2000-01 and the the OA (not sure what that is) in 2002 under Campo

Since he looks like a QB coach in the video to me vs an offensive coordinator, I'd guess Switzer

Definitely not Gailey

 

[Doomsday]

I think he talked about it a few times after, but wasn't he under a ten year deal or something? IIRC he was saying there's no way he was going to honor it.

In Jimmy's mind (and this was a pattern throughout his coaching career) Jerry had broken his word to him by beginning to meddle in personnel, and bringing the Saudi Sheik into the locker room while he was still talking to the team. He crossed the line on several occasions. The deal they had was they would work it back to back, Jerry negotiating the contracts, signing the checks and working on marketing, and Jimmy handling all the personnel decisions and football decisions. When success started happening Jerry started meddling with Jimmy's side of things. Jimmy flat out will NOT work with anyone who breaks his word. He's always been that way.

He didn't even have a contract at first, until well into the offseason of '89 and the league office told them you can't coach the team without a contract. Jimmy says Jerry asked him how long of a contract he wanted, and Jimmy merely said, "I don't care."

 

[FanSince61]

Probably was Switzer, Aikman opinion of Switzer seemed to really change for the worst. Don't blame him for it. Pathetic the way Switzer shortened practice because some players were hungover.

 

[Doomsday]

Probably was Switzer, Aikman opinion of Switzer seemed to really change for the worst.

He never liked Switzer after he'd been recruited to OU by him, with the promise they were going to "throw it all over the field" and what happened? Troy Aikman right where he didn't want to be and shouldn't be, quarterbacking in the wishbone. He promptly transferred to UCLA after Jimmy's Hurricanes broke his leg. Not that the leg break made the decision, that decision had already been made.

So think about it: Rather than stay at OU with Barry he threw away a year of his eligibility - had to SIT OUT a year - so he could get the hell away from him. You hardly ever do that if you like the HC.

 

[FanSince61]

He never liked Switzer after he'd been recruited to OU by him, with the promise they were going to "throw it all over the field" and what happened? Troy Aikman right where he didn't want to be and shouldn't be, quarterbacking in the wishbone. He promptly transferred to UCLA after Jimmy's Hurricanes broke his leg. Not that the leg break made the decision, that decision had already been made.

So think about it: Rather than stay at OU with Barry he threw away a year of his eligibility - had to SIT OUT a year - so he could get the hell away from him. You hardly ever do that if you like the HC.

Aikman told Emmitt and Irvin they would like playing for Switzer. Aikman later said Switer was a different coach at Dallas. I had season tickets to OU 1985 season and was at the Miami game. OU wasn't running the wishbone when Aikman was playing. They passed and ran some option. Irvin said Aikman was passing all over the place until Jerome Brown broke his leg.

OU went to the wishbone after Aikman boke his leg. A freshman QB, named Holiway was a wishbone QB so Switzer started playing him. OU went on to win the National Championship.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Makes me fucking sick to my stomach, and renews my rage at Jerry. He not only ran off a back to back SB winning coach, thus costing us at least two more SB wins in my opinion, but he ran off Aikman too, making the last years of his career a downer.

Aikman was terrible apart from any of Jerry's doing towards the end. There's a reason that only shitty KC even sniffed him after Dallas cut him loose. And no it wasn't concussion history because nobody cared about those at the time.

 

[Sheik]

I think Aikman thinks he was a lot better than he actually was. That's my problem with him. He was accurate and a good leader, but we seen what happened after 96', he wasn't able to carry the team like so many great QBs can. Anybody think Aikman would be Aikman in the Romo era? Closer to David Carr imo.

 

[Doomsday]

Aikman told Emmitt and Irvin they would like playing for Switzer. Aikman later said Switer was a different coach at Dallas. I had season tickets to OU 1985 season and was at the Miami game. OU wasn't running the wishbone when Aikman was playing. They passed and ran some option. Irvin said Aikman was passing all over the place until Jerome Brown broke his leg.

OU went to the wishbone after Aikman boke his leg. A freshman QB, named Holiway was a wishbone QB so Switzer started playing him. OU went on to win the National Championship.

No Man, Aikman had to run the wishbone because Marcus Dupree washed out and Switzer didn't think he had any choice, couldn't run the power I with the personnel he had. Here's a typical box score from that season - there was NOT a lot of passing going on.

1985 Oklahoma at Kansas State Football Box Score - SoonerStats.com

10/14 for 177 is hardly "passing all over the place" meanwhile they ran up over 360 yards rushing on 76 (read that right) 76 attempts. Seventy-Six attempts. This was OU Switzer football and it was the wishbone. And this was before Troy's injury.

It was the same exact formula for the other two games before Miami::

1985 Oklahoma at Minnesota Football Box Score - SoonerStats.com

In the above one, passing was 7/17 for a paltry 67 yards while the rushing went like 64-254. You kidding me?

And this little writeup on the Texas game:

Late in the first quarter, while Oklahoma was playing its flip-and-fly wishbone

1985 Oklahoma vs. Texas Game Recap - SoonerStats - Oklahoma Sooners Football, Basketball, Baseball, and Softball Scores, Records, and Stats


You just needed your memory jogged is all. Troy only ever played three full games for Switzer and there was hardly any passing going on, in any of those.

 

[Doomsday]

Anybody think Aikman would be Aikman in the Romo era?

He would eat these defenses that can't touch him or the receivers, for fucking lunch. Meanwhile with the roles reversed, Romo wouldn't have made it past that 1989 season in Troy's place. He would have been carried out on a stretcher and that would have been all she wrote.

 

[Sheik]

He would eat these defenses that can't touch him or the receivers, for fucking lunch. Meanwhile with the roles reversed, Romo wouldn't have made it past that 1989 season in Troy's place. He would have been carried out on a stretcher and that would have been all she wrote.

Wrong. Do you remember the offensive lines Tony had up until 4 or so years ago? Aikman would be a sitting duck.

 

[dbair1967]

Wrong. Do you remember the offensive lines Tony had up until 4 or so years ago? Aikman would be a sitting duck.

There was not much wrong with how the OL played from 2006-2009

 

[dbair1967]

I think Aikman thinks he was a lot better than he actually was. That's my problem with him. He was accurate and a good leader, but we seen what happened after 96', he wasn't able to carry the team like so many great QBs can. Anybody think Aikman would be Aikman in the Romo era? Closer to David Carr imo.

Sheik, this has to be one of your worst posts ever. Aikman had absolutely zero ego.

Romo's "stats" are great, but being a stat whore and a winner/leader are not the same. Aikman was the epitome of a great leader, right up there with Staubach in that regard. If we don't have Aikman on those 90's teams its highly unlikely we win any of those Super Bowls.

And the guy was absolutely money in big games and the postseason.

 

[dbair1967]

Aikman was terrible apart from any of Jerry's doing towards the end. There's a reason that only shitty KC even sniffed him after Dallas cut him loose. And no it wasn't concussion history because nobody cared about those at the time.

Don't drink and post

 

[dbair1967]

He never liked Switzer after he'd been recruited to OU by him, with the promise they were going to "throw it all over the field" and what happened? Troy Aikman right where he didn't want to be and shouldn't be, quarterbacking in the wishbone. He promptly transferred to UCLA after Jimmy's Hurricanes broke his leg. Not that the leg break made the decision, that decision had already been made.

So think about it: Rather than stay at OU with Barry he threw away a year of his eligibility - had to SIT OUT a year - so he could get the hell away from him. You hardly ever do that if you like the HC.

Switzer helped him transfer and suggested UCLA and his friend Terry Donahue to him. Aikman said Switzer played a big part in helping end up at the right place.

OU did drop the wishbone once Aikman enrolled there. They went back to it after he broke his leg, and that's why Aikman transferred. It had nothing to do with not liking Switzer at the time.

Troy was actually the one who played peacemaker for the team in 1994 when the Switzer hire was announced. Most people have the belief that Aikman was anti Switzer from day one and he was not. It wasn't until he saw how Switzer was running the team that he turned on him.

 

[FanSince61]

Troy only ever played three full games for Switzer and there was hardly any passing going on, in any of those.

Aikman got hurt in the 4 th game, the 1st home game. Before he got hurt he was 6 of 8 for 131 yards. He was hurt with 9:18 remaining in the 1st half. Not bad for a little over a quarter and against a very good team.

 

[dbair1967]

Anybody think Aikman would be Aikman in the Romo era? Closer to David Carr imo.

Somebody with Aikman's elite passing skill playing in todays NFL would eat the league alive. The rules are so much different now in how teams can play pass defense. You cant touch receivers and you cant touch QB's.

He'd blister the league.

 

[dbair1967]

Troy Aikman's transfer from Oklahoma to UCLA helped both programs

Troy Aikman started four games for Oklahoma before getting hurt and transferring to UCLA, where he became a star.

by Robby Kalland

Aug 27, 2015 • 2 min read

We continue our series looking at the most successful second chance stories in college football history. We will highlight players and coaches that have found success or redemption at a second school after a transfer or coaching change in Double Dip, presented by IHop. Today, we examine Troy Aikman's transfer from Oklahoma to UCLA, which worked out for all parties involved.

First Stop: Troy Aikman started his college career at the University of Oklahoma and took over as the Sooners' starter in 1985, his sophomore year. Under Aikman's leadership, the Sooners began the season 3-0, including a win over rival Texas. Against Miami, in the only loss of the season for Oklahoma, Aikman's ankle was broken, and he was ruled out for the season.

With Aikman out, Barry Switzer switched his offense from an I-formation, pro-style system back to the run-heavy wishbone offense. That change proved to be extremely successful, and the Sooners went on to win the 1985 national championship running the wishbone with Jamelle Holieway as quarterback.

With Oklahoma back in the wishbone, Aikman decided to transfer out of Norman to go to a program where he would be in an offense better suited for him and throw the ball more. He ended up deciding on UCLA, leaving Oklahoma for Los Angeles.

Double Dip: Aikman sat out the 1986 season at UCLA due to NCAA transfer rules but took over as the Bruins' starter in 1987. Over two seasons at UCLA, Aikman completed 64.8 percent of his passes and threw for 5,298 yards, 41 touchdowns and 17 interceptions.

In 1987, Aikman was named the Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year as the Bruins went 10-2 with a win in the Aloha Bowl over Florida. In 1988, Aikman won the Davey O'Brien Award as the top quarterback in the nation and was named a consensus All-American while finishing third in the Heisman Trophy voting. The Bruins went 10-2 again in 1988, winning in the Cotton Bowl against Arkansas to end the season.

Aikman's transfer to UCLA proved to be a positive for both schools and Aikman as Oklahoma found success in the wishbone and UCLA won 20 games in two years under Aikman's guidance. After his two terrific seasons at UCLA, Aikman became the top commodity in the 1989 NFL Draft and was taken first overall by the Dallas Cowboys.

Pro Career: Aikman's time at UCLA paid off in a big way once he got to the NFL. After a rough 1989 season for the Cowboys, they went on to become the team of the 1990s.

Aikman had a Hall of Fame career with the Dallas Cowboys, leading them to three Super Bowl titles in the early 90s. He was a six-time Pro-Bowler, won the Super Bowl MVP in 1993 and is the Cowboys' all-time leading passer with 32,942 yards.

He was named to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2006 and the College Football Hall of Fame in 2008. Aikman currently works as an NFL analyst and color commentator for FOX Sports.

 

[junk]

Who would win in an American Gladiator competition? Romo or Aikman?

 

[dbair1967]

Who would win in an American Gladiator competition? Romo or Aikman?

Aikman would mash Romo