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And just like now, just like last yr- we'd be fucked if Romo got hurt.
He wouldn't solve anything
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It might to our "braintrust", though.
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The Cowboys are always (at least) a year away from fixing obvious problems.
The O Line was killing Romo for years , they finally did something about it, throwing 3 first round picks at the problem.
Everyone told them they need a talented RB to replace Murray's production and they claimed anyone can run behind this line. A year later, they blew their wad (4th overall pick) on a talented RB.
Everyone, including Stephen, said they needed to get a talented young QB to groom behind Romo. They half-assed it with drafting Black Tim Tebow.
Welcome to Dallas, 2017 1st round quarterback.
The O Line was killing Romo for years , they finally did something about it, throwing 3 first round picks at the problem.
Everyone told them they need a talented RB to replace Murray's production and they claimed anyone can run behind this line. A year later, they blew their wad (4th overall pick) on a talented RB.
Everyone, including Stephen, said they needed to get a talented young QB to groom behind Romo. They half-assed it with drafting Black Tim Tebow.
Welcome to Dallas, 2017 1st round quarterback.
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Paxton Lynch should already be here.
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Should the Cowboys acquire another QB? Who's available after Nick Foles goes to the Chiefs?
By SportsDayDFW.com
Editor's note: This list has been updated with Nick Foles signing with the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Dallas Cowboys are at a crossroads even before the 2016 season has kicked off.
Following Kellen Moore's injury do the Cowboys stick with the quarterbacks on their roster or do they go out and sign a veteran? Below are some of the options that the team could pursue. Be sure to scroll to the bottom to cast your vote on what Dallas should do.
Note: All stats via pro-footballreference.com.
Stick with what they've got
On the roster: Jameill Showers, Dak Prescott
Notable: Neither Prescott or Showers have appeared in an NFL game in their careers. Do the Cowboys stick with two unproven guys or roll the dice and bring in a veteran?
Josh McCown
Seasons: 13
Most recent NFL team: Cleveland Browns
Record as a starter: 18-39
Career stats: 77 games played (57 started) / 1,164-1,956 passing for 13,142 yards / 73 touchdowns, 63 interceptions
Notable: McCown is still under contract with the Browns so the Cowboys would have to trade for the quarterback. He's been on three different teams the last three years and is coming off a shortened season where he, brace yourselves Cowboys fans, had a broken collarbone. He had thrown for 12 touchdowns and just four interceptions with the Browns last year before being injured.
Tarvaris Jackson
Seasons: 9
Most recent NFL team: Seattle Seahawks
Record as a starter: 17-17
Career stats: 59 games played (34 started) / 640-1,073 passing for 7,263 yards / 39 touchdowns, 35 interceptions
Notable: Jackson hasn't appeared in more than five games in four of the last five seasons he's been in the NFL (with the lone time being in 2011 when he started 14 games with Seattle going 7-7).
He's recently been in the headlines for an arrest in June where he was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after he allegely drew a gun on a woman reported to be his wife, according to The Seattle Times. TMZ Sports reports that Jackson won't be charged in the incident.
Michael Vick
Seasons: 13
Most recent NFL team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Record as a starter: 61-51-1
Career stats: 143 games played (115 started) / 1,807-3,217 passing for 22,464 yards / 133 touchdowns, 88 interceptions
Notable: Vick has appeared on three different NFL rosters over the last three seasons, starting no more than six games in that span. He doesn't have a winning record in any of the last three seasons as a starter going 2-4 with Philadelphia, 1-2 with the New York Jets and 1-1 with the Steelers.
Vick was eventually benched in favor of Nick Foles, Geno Smith and Landry Jones.
He also has more turnovers than touchdowns in those last three seasons (10 touchdowns to 13 turnovers).
Josh Freeman
Seasons: 7 seasons
Most recent NFL team: Indianapolis Colts
Record as a starter: 25-36
Career stats: 62 games played (61 started) / 1,179-2,048 passing for 13,873 yards / 81 touchdowns, 68 interceptions
Notable: The former first-round pick has had a very up-and-down career. His rookie year was a struggle throwing for 10 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. He bounced back to have his best year as a pro tossing 25 touchdowns to just six interceptions. Then the cycle started all over again. He had a negative touchdown-to-interception ratio in 2011 and followed it up throwing for more than 4,000 yards and 27 touchdowns in 2012.
Here's how Chris Perkins of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel described Freeman's fallout with Tampa Bay.
"In 2013, it all fell apart. Freeman admitted he overslept and missed the team picture. It was later revealed he wasn't named/voted a team captain. Freeman was eventually benched and released in October, and picked up by Minnesota.
"But that didn't go well. Freeman made one ugly start and missed the rest of the season with concussion-like symptoms. Vikings players alleged he wasn't properly prepared.
"Freeman signed with the Giants in April 2014, but was released one month later and sat out the entire 2014 season."
Since his 4,000-yard season he's spent time with the Giants, Dolphins, Vikings, the Buccaneers (again), and the Colts.
T.J. Yates
Seasons: 5
Most recent NFL team: Houston Texans
Record as a starter: 4-3
Career stats: 18 games played (7 started) / 132-227 passing for 1,534 yards / 6 touchdowns, 8 interceptions
Notable: Yates' year was lost last season due to an ACL tear. Even though he doesn't have too many starts under his belt, he does have something that most quarterbacks on this list don't have: a victory in an NFL playoff game. Yates did collect a postseason win when the Texans topped the Bengals 31-10 in the 2011 playoffs when he was a rookie. His team would lose the next game to the Ravens while Yates threw three interceptions.
Since those playoffs he's played sporadically with the Texans and the Atlanta Falcons.
Other notable free agents
Matt Flynn: He's bounced around the league since signing that big free-agent deal with the Seahawks. Did not start any games last season.
Jimmy Clausen: Appeared in games for both Baltimore and Chicago last season combining to throw two touchdowns and four interceptions. He's had only one season where he's thrown more TDs than INTs in his career (2014).
Tim Tebow: Hey, he's won a playoff game before. The last time he suited up for a game was with the New York Jets in 2012.
By SportsDayDFW.com
Editor's note: This list has been updated with Nick Foles signing with the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Dallas Cowboys are at a crossroads even before the 2016 season has kicked off.
Following Kellen Moore's injury do the Cowboys stick with the quarterbacks on their roster or do they go out and sign a veteran? Below are some of the options that the team could pursue. Be sure to scroll to the bottom to cast your vote on what Dallas should do.
Note: All stats via pro-footballreference.com.
Stick with what they've got
On the roster: Jameill Showers, Dak Prescott
Notable: Neither Prescott or Showers have appeared in an NFL game in their careers. Do the Cowboys stick with two unproven guys or roll the dice and bring in a veteran?
Josh McCown
Seasons: 13
Most recent NFL team: Cleveland Browns
Record as a starter: 18-39
Career stats: 77 games played (57 started) / 1,164-1,956 passing for 13,142 yards / 73 touchdowns, 63 interceptions
Notable: McCown is still under contract with the Browns so the Cowboys would have to trade for the quarterback. He's been on three different teams the last three years and is coming off a shortened season where he, brace yourselves Cowboys fans, had a broken collarbone. He had thrown for 12 touchdowns and just four interceptions with the Browns last year before being injured.
Tarvaris Jackson
Seasons: 9
Most recent NFL team: Seattle Seahawks
Record as a starter: 17-17
Career stats: 59 games played (34 started) / 640-1,073 passing for 7,263 yards / 39 touchdowns, 35 interceptions
Notable: Jackson hasn't appeared in more than five games in four of the last five seasons he's been in the NFL (with the lone time being in 2011 when he started 14 games with Seattle going 7-7).
He's recently been in the headlines for an arrest in June where he was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after he allegely drew a gun on a woman reported to be his wife, according to The Seattle Times. TMZ Sports reports that Jackson won't be charged in the incident.
Michael Vick
Seasons: 13
Most recent NFL team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Record as a starter: 61-51-1
Career stats: 143 games played (115 started) / 1,807-3,217 passing for 22,464 yards / 133 touchdowns, 88 interceptions
Notable: Vick has appeared on three different NFL rosters over the last three seasons, starting no more than six games in that span. He doesn't have a winning record in any of the last three seasons as a starter going 2-4 with Philadelphia, 1-2 with the New York Jets and 1-1 with the Steelers.
Vick was eventually benched in favor of Nick Foles, Geno Smith and Landry Jones.
He also has more turnovers than touchdowns in those last three seasons (10 touchdowns to 13 turnovers).
Josh Freeman
Seasons: 7 seasons
Most recent NFL team: Indianapolis Colts
Record as a starter: 25-36
Career stats: 62 games played (61 started) / 1,179-2,048 passing for 13,873 yards / 81 touchdowns, 68 interceptions
Notable: The former first-round pick has had a very up-and-down career. His rookie year was a struggle throwing for 10 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. He bounced back to have his best year as a pro tossing 25 touchdowns to just six interceptions. Then the cycle started all over again. He had a negative touchdown-to-interception ratio in 2011 and followed it up throwing for more than 4,000 yards and 27 touchdowns in 2012.
Here's how Chris Perkins of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel described Freeman's fallout with Tampa Bay.
"In 2013, it all fell apart. Freeman admitted he overslept and missed the team picture. It was later revealed he wasn't named/voted a team captain. Freeman was eventually benched and released in October, and picked up by Minnesota.
"But that didn't go well. Freeman made one ugly start and missed the rest of the season with concussion-like symptoms. Vikings players alleged he wasn't properly prepared.
"Freeman signed with the Giants in April 2014, but was released one month later and sat out the entire 2014 season."
Since his 4,000-yard season he's spent time with the Giants, Dolphins, Vikings, the Buccaneers (again), and the Colts.
T.J. Yates
Seasons: 5
Most recent NFL team: Houston Texans
Record as a starter: 4-3
Career stats: 18 games played (7 started) / 132-227 passing for 1,534 yards / 6 touchdowns, 8 interceptions
Notable: Yates' year was lost last season due to an ACL tear. Even though he doesn't have too many starts under his belt, he does have something that most quarterbacks on this list don't have: a victory in an NFL playoff game. Yates did collect a postseason win when the Texans topped the Bengals 31-10 in the 2011 playoffs when he was a rookie. His team would lose the next game to the Ravens while Yates threw three interceptions.
Since those playoffs he's played sporadically with the Texans and the Atlanta Falcons.
Other notable free agents
Matt Flynn: He's bounced around the league since signing that big free-agent deal with the Seahawks. Did not start any games last season.
Jimmy Clausen: Appeared in games for both Baltimore and Chicago last season combining to throw two touchdowns and four interceptions. He's had only one season where he's thrown more TDs than INTs in his career (2014).
Tim Tebow: Hey, he's won a playoff game before. The last time he suited up for a game was with the New York Jets in 2012.
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Cowlishaw: What the Cowboys have to do at QB after missing out on Nick Foles
By Tim Cowlishaw
Columnist Tim Cowlishaw recently held a chat to talk all things D-FW sports. Here are some highlights:
Question: Now that Nick Foles will be a chief, whom do you think the Cowboys should target for a backup QB?
Cowlishaw: It's difficult. Josh McCown in Cleveland is possible but why would the Browns trade him? Do they think RG III is a sure thing either to stay healthy or be good? I can't imagine that. There are complications here. If you bring someone in, you're either going to cut that player later or cut Kellen Moore, aren't you? Probably can't hide Prescott on the practice squad. Can't keep four QBs. Mostly they have to hope Romo stays healthy.
Question: Why don't the Cowboys just cut Rolando McClain already? Even if there's no need to right now seems like it would at least show they're willing to deal with knuckleheadedness for a change
Cowlishaw: I don't think he will ever play again for Dallas. I believe the only reason he isn't gone right now relates to his specific issues, cap concerns, maybe even some other things we haven't heard about. So I think it's really just kind of irrelevant that he remains on the roster.
Question: Why is the Hall of Fame Game an extra game for the two teams - Colts and Packers in this case? Why not just make it one of the 4 regular preseason games. They're having to play a game almost before they get to camp it seems
Cowlishaw: Supposed to be a benefit for those teams but I'm not sure anyone in this day and age wants to play 5 exhibition games. Amazing that when we were kids (well, when I was a kid), they played 14 regular season games and 6 exhibition games. What were they thinking?
By Tim Cowlishaw
Columnist Tim Cowlishaw recently held a chat to talk all things D-FW sports. Here are some highlights:
Question: Now that Nick Foles will be a chief, whom do you think the Cowboys should target for a backup QB?
Cowlishaw: It's difficult. Josh McCown in Cleveland is possible but why would the Browns trade him? Do they think RG III is a sure thing either to stay healthy or be good? I can't imagine that. There are complications here. If you bring someone in, you're either going to cut that player later or cut Kellen Moore, aren't you? Probably can't hide Prescott on the practice squad. Can't keep four QBs. Mostly they have to hope Romo stays healthy.
Question: Why don't the Cowboys just cut Rolando McClain already? Even if there's no need to right now seems like it would at least show they're willing to deal with knuckleheadedness for a change
Cowlishaw: I don't think he will ever play again for Dallas. I believe the only reason he isn't gone right now relates to his specific issues, cap concerns, maybe even some other things we haven't heard about. So I think it's really just kind of irrelevant that he remains on the roster.
Question: Why is the Hall of Fame Game an extra game for the two teams - Colts and Packers in this case? Why not just make it one of the 4 regular preseason games. They're having to play a game almost before they get to camp it seems
Cowlishaw: Supposed to be a benefit for those teams but I'm not sure anyone in this day and age wants to play 5 exhibition games. Amazing that when we were kids (well, when I was a kid), they played 14 regular season games and 6 exhibition games. What were they thinking?
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Team Stream reported that Dallas is looking at Josh Freeman. This is so typical. They need a strong and capable player who they can both use in training camp and hope to back up Romo in emergency but they really need to think about developing a real player for the future. But instead they go looking for any player that has Norv Turner or Coryell on his Wikipedia page.
Freeman's most recent experience is with the Colts who have Rob Chudinzski as OC whose most recent description of his offense is the following tweet from Ed Werder
This just getting silly. The Dallas personnel staff must just have a data base of all Coryell QBs and players, no matter how terrible a player or limited in potential, they just go looking for Jason's system guys so he doesn't have to coach them. It would be one thing if it worked but Cassel and Weeden both had experience and couldn't make Garrett's blundering system work.
Freeman's most recent experience is with the Colts who have Rob Chudinzski as OC whose most recent description of his offense is the following tweet from Ed Werder
This just getting silly. The Dallas personnel staff must just have a data base of all Coryell QBs and players, no matter how terrible a player or limited in potential, they just go looking for Jason's system guys so he doesn't have to coach them. It would be one thing if it worked but Cassel and Weeden both had experience and couldn't make Garrett's blundering system work.
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I heard it also has a lot to do with the fact that he doesn't really want to play. He's content being a backup. Alex Smith rarely gets hurt so Foles
Knew the likelihood he will actually have to play is slim. His last year in Philly and his year with the Rams really did a number on his confidence.
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What about Austin Davis? The Browns are not likely to keep McCown, Davis, and RGIII.