Ellis: Here's Hoping Tuna Takes Saints Job

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jellis

at 3/26/2012 4:37 PM CDT on dallascowboys.com​

IRVING, Texas -

A few of you waving #BobbyCarpenter hashtags have disgreed with me on Twitter already, but I would be glad to see former Cowboys head coach Bill ​

Parcells

back on an NFL sideline.

By my estimation, the Big Tuna is one of the most fascinating personalities in the history of not only football, but sports in America. The 2012 season would be better, more interesting, if Parcells were involved. And while the New Orleans Saints haven't officially reached out to Big Bill as an organization, Parcells' ​

quote to Newsday

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that "Everything is hypothetical at this point" makes it pretty obvious that he's interested in what Sean Payton has been selling.

It sounds like the kind of thing he was saying about the Cowboys job right at the end of the 2002 NFL season, after reports emerged that he had met with Jerry Jones on the owner's private jet at Teterboro Airport.

If the memory of that news doesn't make you appreciate Parcells, you've obviously forgotten just how bad the Cowboys had it before he got here. After three straight 5-11 seasons, he came in, kicked the players' butts and led a team quarterbacked by Quincy Carter to the playoffs.

Allow me to repeat myself. He led a team quarterbacked by Quincy-freaking-Carter to the playoffs. It's got to be one the greatest coaching jobs in league history.

There's something wrong with any Cowboys fan who doesn't have great respect and admiration for what Parcells did here. Nevermind the fact he rode Troy Hambrick and Richie Anderson into the postseason, but in the process he built a team that had been in the hunt, if nothing else, since he left.

It makes no sense to hold Carpenter and Julius Jones over Parcells' head when during his tenure the Cowboys added Tony Romo, Marion Barber, Miles Austin, Jason Witten, Jay Ratliff, DeMarcus Ware, Terence Newman, Bradie James, Marc Colombo, Kyle Kosier and Mat McBriar among many, many other crucial parts of these teams. And no, the Cowboys haven't won a Super Bowl with the group Parcells assembled, but he at least turned the thing around. For the first time since Jimmy Johnson left, the arrow for this franchise began to point up as soon as Parcells arrived.

He did the same thing for the Cowboys, the Jets, the Patriots and the Giants. Rescue ops have been his specialty, so it would be really intriguing to see what he could with a team that actually has talent when he arrives.

Though New Orleans has a ton of good players, the team is a mess right now in the wake of this bounty situation. If Parcells were to come in and quickly do what he's done four times already, you'd have to think it would erase any doubt about his candidacy for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Not that putting him into the Hall should've been much of a question, anyway.​

 

[Midswat]

so it would be really intriguing to see what he could with a team that actually has talent when he arrives.

I don't think he'd make that much of an impact. And that's not Parcells bashing.

As much as I think Parcells is overrated, I acknowledge his greatest strength/attribute is as a motivator. He knows how to push buttons and get the most out of people.

Losing teams are normally full of underachievers. Parcells comes in, and suddenly those guys will run through walls for him (assuming they have pride). Hence the drastic turnarounds.

A team like the 2012 Saints, 3 years removed from a SB, and suddenly a perrenial contender, is not full of those same underachievers. So Parcells greatest strength is basically useless.

And we all know Parcells isn't that great of a game day coach. As good as he is at recognizing talent and motivating players, he lacks as an actual X's and O's guy in todays NFL.

The Saints are going to be a worse team in 2012. With Parcells, or with any other head coach.

 

[Midswat]

I'll even say this. If Parcells is coaching the Saints in 2012, that team is not making the playoffs.


Not sure why the Saints aren't looking at potential in-house candidates.

I get why you wouldn't look for the D, since that's a new staff. But let the O-Coordinator, or Oline coach, or someone else carry that Interim tag.

 

[dbair1967]

I think they could make the playoffs, but one of Parcells' biggest weaknesses here became game planning on offense and defense. We were outcoached alot, and the primo example of that was his last game vs Seattle.

I highly doubt they'd have any postseason success with Parcells there.

 

[eagle-9r-sknh8r]

Yeah we wouldn't have to worry about the aint's going vertical down the field If he's running it.

 

[Theebs]

Yeah we wouldn't have to worry about the aint's going vertical down the field If he's running it.

the offense that parcells always sort of associated himself with was the offense ron earhardt ran with him in NY.

It was an offense with a ton of vertical routes and just for shits n giggles for the ignorant the giants in the 80s were one of the first teams to use spread wr sets of 3 and 4.

now, back to he hands it off to the fullback 15 times a guy nonsense.

 

[eagle-9r-sknh8r]

the offense that parcells always sort of associated himself with was the offense ron earhardt ran with him in NY.

It was an offense with a ton of vertical routes and just for shits n giggles for the ignorant the giants in the 80s were one of the first teams to use spread wr sets of 3 and 4.

now, back to he hands it off to the fullback 15 times a guy nonsense.

I still remember the playoff game vs the sea-chickens, and him not trying to go downfield against Pete hunter ( who was an insurance salesman the Monday before the playoff game. Conservative bill.

 

[Theebs]

I still remember the playoff game vs the sea-chickens, and him not trying to go downfield against Pete hunter ( who was an insurance salesman the Monday before the playoff game. Conservative bill.

well that is definitely an indicator of a coaches 30 year career.

also, the game you are talking about was played on the road in one of the noisest stadiums in the league, with essentially a rookie qb, against a team sitting in cover 4 begging us to run and by the way romo had developed a knack for turning the ball over the final games in december.

The passing game was just fine when we needed it late. And also, we had owens drop a ball on third down to kill a drive and jason witten fumble at the 50 to kill a drive.

the conservative game plan by the old dumb coach is nonsense and it all comes from the same few who always have some sort of beef with parcells over everything from where he was born and how fat he was.

 

[UVAwahoos]

The Seahawks game criticism def separates logical people who understand football from emotional clowns who are pissed we lost and looking for womanly ways to display their emotion. 3 huge player errors come to mind from that game. Keep blaming Parcells though. Makes total sense.

 

[dbair1967]

The Seahawks game criticism def separates logical people who understand football from emotional clowns who are pissed we lost and looking for womanly ways to display their emotion. 3 huge player errors come to mind from that game. Keep blaming Parcells though. Makes total sense.

Parcells and Sparano came up with a stupid game plan. It didnt lose the game all by itself, but Seattle had a number of backups and/or street free agents playing the secondary. We had a probowl calibar QB, two 1000+ yd WR's and one of the ebst TE's in football, and hardly attempted a pass over 5-10 yds all game long.

Keep being a douche if you like, but the game plan was incredibly stupid.

 

[dbair1967]

well that is definitely an indicator of a coaches 30 year career.

also, the game you are talking about was played on the road in one of the noisest stadiums in the league, with essentially a rookie qb, against a team sitting in cover 4 begging us to run and by the way romo had developed a knack for turning the ball over the final games in december.

The passing game was just fine when we needed it late. And also, we had owens drop a ball on third down to kill a drive and jason witten fumble at the 50 to kill a drive.

the conservative game plan by the old dumb coach is nonsense and it all comes from the same few who always have some sort of beef with parcells over everything from where he was born and how fat he was.

It was stupid, period.

Our biggest advantage over them was Romo throwing to our WR's adn TE's downfield, and Parcells/Sparano decided to play scared.

It didnt lose the game by itself, but it certainly was a major factor.

Rex Grossman didnt have any problems picking them apart a week later.

 

[Theebs]

It was stupid, period.

Our biggest advantage over them was Romo throwing to our WR's adn TE's downfield, and Parcells/Sparano decided to play scared.

It didnt lose the game by itself, but it certainly was a major factor.

Rex Grossman didnt have any problems picking them apart a week later.

rex grossman played them in the snow at home and had to go to overtime to beat them?

grossman threw the ball 9 more times than romo did, 3 of them in overtime.

they had 90 more net passing yards.

boy did ron turner open the floodgates that day.

 

[eagle-9r-sknh8r]

Be careful dbair. We are stupid women who know nothing about football if we think it was stupid gameplan.

 

[dbair1967]

rex grossman played them in the snow at home and had to go to overtime to beat them?

grossman threw the ball 9 more times than romo did, 3 of them in overtime.

they had 90 more net passing yards.

boy did ron turner open the floodgates that day.

The Bears didnt dink and dunk their way through the whoe game like we did.

The Bears also had nowhere close to the WR/TE talent, or QB talent that we did.

Rex Grossman threw for almost 300 yds against them, in the snow.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Big difference between a young, turnover prone QB starting his first playoff game in a notably hostile road environment versus a QB playing at home with a top 5 defense to make up for any of his blunders. And still, it's not like the Bears dominated either.

But yeah, two guys on an internet message board know more than Sparano and Parcells. Also makes sense.

 

[Sheik]

Bill Parcells gameplan was good enough to beat Seattle that day.

And it should have.

 

[Theebs]

The Bears didnt dink and dunk their way through the whoe game like we did.

The Bears also had nowhere close to the WR/TE talent, or QB talent that we did.

Rex Grossman threw for almost 300 yds against them, in the snow.

right. they were pretty damn talented, playing at home, with a better defense and a good running game. the seahawks didnt play them the same way they played us, they had to attack the run....which allowed chicago to throw over the top which was grossmans strength. They hit the big play to berrian outside of that they didnt make much.

The ultimate difference is we dont know if romo was just gun shy and didnt want to force it deep or what.

and if you look at the game box scores you will see both teams must have seen the same weakness because they both attacked the right side of the field alot.

oh and after watching the berrian clip I guess it wasnt snowing...I must have been thinking of the snow against the saints the following week.

 

[dbair1967]

lol

ok, whatever guys

 

[UVAwahoos]

Yeah. Parcells had no idea, but Garrett is the second-coming of Lombardi.

Some of you are pure geniuses.

 

[dbair1967]

Parcells could sit his fat ass down on some of your faces, take a huge runny smelly shit all over your noses and some of you would proclaim "well, thats really doesnt stink so bad"