Eli Manning is the luckiest...

[peplaw06]

Damn QB I've ever seen. Twice yesterday he got bailed out by San Fran's DBs running into themselves when they should have picked the ball off. The throw he made to Manningham in the end zone was a duck floater and just fell into the WRs hands. And then Kyle Williams gifted him 10 points and the game on the muffed punt and fumble on the last punt return.

But his defense is carrying him now and this is what happens. Trent Dilfer was slobbering all over him on the radio this morning, made me sick.

Not a doubt in my mind Romo is a better QB than him. If he were playing in that game yesterday though, our defense would have given the game up, the fumbles by SF would have been recovered by the 49ers, and the interceptions would have come off Jason Witten's heel and right into the DBs hands or some shit like that.

There can be no other explanation. He was born with a horse shoe up his ass. His facial expressions give that away.

 

[Midswat]

The 9'ers offense, Alex Smith especially, was so inept yesterday.

The 9'ers kept going three and out and having to punt the ball away late in the game. And I kept expecting the "great" Eli Manning to get the Giants into scoring position.

At least three times, he literally just threw a bomb towards Cruz, expecting magic. No good quarterbacking about any of those throws.

And he kept failing to do so and had to punt it away each time.

But the Giants win because of two horrible special teams plays by the 9'ers, and yeah, we have to listen about what an amazing quarterback Eli is.

Go Patriots.

 

[VA Cowboy]

It's a combination of luck and talent. He does have the ability to stand in the pocket and keep plays alive. Also has made quite a few clutch passes. But no doubt he's been bailed out numerous times by either the defender screwing up or the WR making circus grabs after he just tosses up a jump ball.

But one thing he does do is have poise and not get rattled in pressure situations often.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

It's a combination of luck and talent. He does have the ability to stand in the pocket and keep plays alive.

Which is often the result of his Oline committing many no-call holds. I've said this so many times, in that I have never seen an Oline get away with so much holding. One guy was blocked in the back with the ref standing there and it wasn't called. He would have sacked Eli.

 

[carphalen5150]

Eli is playing great now, to say otherwise is either sour grapes, or you don't know what you are watching. I could give two shits if he was lucky, no ints and his team won. Scoreboard.

 

[Theebs]

not me.

that goes to drew brees.

Brees throws about 45 interceptions a year but the other team always drops them. I have never seen anything like it, his whole career he throws terrible balls into stupid spots and they get dropped.

makes me crazy to watch and then hear how he is so elite or whatever.

 

[carphalen5150]

A dropped interception is an incomplete pass. Just an FYI.

 

[superpunk]

Same thing for their super bowl run. Must be something about Eli's bad passes that makes them tough for DBs to catch lol. Horseshoe wedged in ass, that team. He played a garbage game yesterday (what...5 ypa???) and the other team couldn't capitalize on the terrible mistakes he was making just long enough for the 49ers to hand them a win.

Oh well, I'd rather be lucky than good.

 

[Theebs]

A dropped interception is an incomplete pass. Just an FYI.

i missed your point?

incompletion yes, turnover no. big difference.

they just keep throwing darts in new orleans. He has repeatedly had dropped picks on one down then made a big play the next, very much like eli's run in 07 and at times yesterday.

 

[carphalen5150]

i missed your point?

incompletion yes, turnover no. big difference.

they just keep throwing darts in new orleans. He has repeatedly had dropped picks on one down then made a big play the next, very much like eli's run in 07 and at times yesterday.

My point is that Eli is not a lucky QB, he is a great QB. To label him simply as lucky is false. I bet if they lost yesterday you would have blamed Eli, but now that they won he is a lucky QB. It's silly really, give the player and his team props.

 

[superpunk]

lol @ Eli the "great" QB. 5 ypa in the title game, so great.

 

[Theebs]

Same thing for their super bowl run. Must be something about Eli's bad passes that makes them tough for DBs to catch lol. Horseshoe wedged in ass, that team. He played a garbage game yesterday (what...5 ypa???) and the other team couldn't capitalize on the terrible mistakes he was making just long enough for the 49ers to hand them a win.

Oh well, I'd rather be lucky than good.

while some of that is true, the niners defense is also very good. And very good with three players in the secondary no one wanted in rogers, whitner and goldson.

Manning hit manningham on 3rd and 15 for a critical Td. THere was no luck involved, he is just a damn good player.

the organization allowed him to become the player he is and put an excellent team around him.

here in Dallas Romo got owens, roy williams, martellus bennett, tashard choice and a lousy defense....and most importantly a head coach with basically no authority.

its like a study in doing things the right way and the wrong way. And we are the wrong way in that study and couldnt be any clearer than the past 5 years.

 

[Theebs]

My point is that Eli is not a lucky QB, he is a great QB. To label him simply as lucky is false. I bet if they lost yesterday you would have blamed Eli, but now that they won he is a lucky QB. It's silly really, give the player and his team props.

I think you are confused, I think eli is a good player, my only knock on him was winning at home in dec/january. He solved that little problem this year.

I do standby that Drew brees has been very lucky, he has more interceptions dropped than anyone I have ever seen.

 

[carphalen5150]

lol @ Eli the "great" QB. 5 ypa in the title game, so great.

He had no run game to speak of and his team won the NFC title. He is a great QB, you are either showing ignorance or you just can't prop a player from a rival team. Either way, you are wrong.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Eli Manning is the best QB, probably in the history of the NFL, at throwing off his back foot, blindly..at this point, it is impossible to call it luck..he knows where his receiver is going to be and he hits him in stride perfectly..WITHOUT question, this is Eli's biggest strength..he has incredible pocket presence..give the guy some credit

 

[superpunk]

He had no run game to speak of and his team won the NFC title. He is a great QB, you are either showing ignorance or you just can't prop a player from a rival team. Either way, you are wrong.

Or maybe you're getting a little too carried away over the way the 49ers gifted the champ game to Eli and the Giants. The only time Eli and Great should be in the same sentence is "Isn't Eli great at looking like a ****** after he makes his fifth boneheaded throw of the game?" Kudos to Eli for throwing passes that the 49ers couldn't intercept because Goldson wouldn't stop destroying his teammates and getting 10 lucky points off fumbled punts.

 

[carphalen5150]

I was wrong about the rating...that was postseason. Anyways, IMO the guy is a great QB. He wins 2 road games...one in Lambeau and one in the muck in SF, against a very strong SF defense. I just don't see how you base his success on luck alone, he had a monster year in what was supposed to be a down year for the Giants.

 

[peplaw06]

My point is that Eli is not a lucky QB, he is a great QB. To label him simply as lucky is false. I bet if they lost yesterday you would have blamed Eli, but now that they won he is a lucky QB. It's silly really, give the player and his team props.

Depends on how you define great. I think he's a middle tiered NFL QB. Relatively speaking, that's pretty great, but he's not elite as a QB goes in my opinion. I'm not going to call him elite because he has two super bowl appearances when his defense bails him out and the other teams (us included) make stupid mistakes. If they had lost yesterday, say for instance Goldson not decided to go head hunting his teammates, it would have likely been because he threw those picks and his defense wouldn't have been able to bail him out again.

 

[peplaw06]

I was wrong about the rating...that was postseason. Anyways, IMO the guy is a great QB. He wins 2 road games...one in Lambeau and one in the muck in SF, against a very strong SF defense. I just don't see how you base his success on luck alone, he had a monster year in what was supposed to be a down year for the Giants.

Not denying the guy had a career year this year. He threw for damn near 1,000 yards more than he ever has, and his QB rating was 10 points higher than his career rating. But do you call that the rule or the exception?

 

[superpunk]

Not denying the guy had a career year this year. He threw for damn near 1,000 yards more than he ever has, and his QB rating was 10 points higher than his career rating. But do you call that the rule or the exception?

Alex Smith - great QB.