Dr. Ben Carson: Ryan's Budget 'Really Works'

[superpunk]

I say all sorts of things. Learn to read, dickbag.

 

[bkeavs]

I guarantee the people opposing the views of SP hate all minorities and think they are lazy, blood suckers on the economy

Anyone???

 

[NoDak]

I guarantee the people opposing the views of SP hate all minorities and think they are lazy, blood suckers on the economy

Anyone???

You gaurantee this? Would Native Americans be considered a minority in this little exercise of yours?

 

[superpunk]

It's almost like noone remembers how bad of an idea this was when Ryan was getting trounced by Biden.

Conservative Economists Criticize ‘Off The Deep End’ Republican Budget - http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...ticize-off-the-deep-end-republican-budget.php

“It doesn’t address in any serious or courageous way the issue of the near and medium-term deficit,” David Stockman told me in a Thursday phone interview. “I think the biggest problem is revenues. It is simply unrealistic to say that raising revenue isn’t part of the solution. It’s a measure of how far off the deep end Republicans have gone with this religious catechism about taxes.”

Stockman, who directed Ronald Reagan’s Office of Management and Budget, approves of Ryan’s entitlement proposals, but breaks faith over taxes and the GOP’s unwillingness to slash defense spending.

i mean, he's not a black neurosurgeon who criticizes Obama, so I don't know if we should trust his economic judgement, but still.

 

[bkeavs]

You gaurantee this? Would Native Americans be considered a minority in this little exercise of yours?

why? do you hate them as well?

 

[iceberg]

I say all sorts of things. Learn to read, dickbag.

yea and one day maybe something will actually make sense and not be "id" focused all the time.

 

[superpunk]

yea and one day maybe something will actually make sense and not be "id" focused all the time.

irony

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This budget is the same as last budget. It seems it's popular with the GOP to trot out latino and black men and act like them using the same rhetoric makes the reality any different. He is a neurosurgeon and did some calculus as an undergrad at best. No accounting and the most economics that was required was core. Professionally he has no experience because again he is a brain surgeon. It does seem funny that the GOP is fond of comparing fiscal policy to personal finance and AR/AP.

The 'new' Path to Prosperity is exactly the same as the last one he trotted out last year. The same one he and Romney ran on and lost. As someone else said, that would be like Mondale going back to the Senate and propose the same shit he ran under in 1985. It's ludicrous.

Let's look at particulars:

It still proposes further tax reductions to the 35% tax bracket, CG and other rich folks.

It closes 'loopholes' re: tax deductions which in order to make the math work would have to include mortgage deductions.

It cuts discretionary spending. Now while blue team likes to act like that is just food stamps and AFDC, it also includes science research, environmental regulations, food and drug safety, border patrol, and the park service.

It increases defense spending.

It cuts the Medicare trust so we younger folks get to pay for all of the boomers health care and SS as well as their massive debt legacy.

It guts Medicare by removing the cost controls that Medicare has by this voucher system. Medicare is much less expensive than private market insurance and statistically is as good or better.

It's the same exact shit. No while you guys are fixating on "black man disagrees with Obama" you don't talk about policy specifics because in large part the plan doesn't talk about policy specifics.

I am so tired of the dumbed down America.

 

[NoDak]

why? do you hate them as well?

I have a child with a Native American. But since I disagree with pretty much everything spunk ever spews out on any subject, I feel bad that I'll have to tell my daughter that I hate her.

 

[iceberg]

It's almost like noone remembers how bad of an idea this was when Ryan was getting trounced by Biden.

Conservative Economists Criticize ‘Off The Deep End’ Republican Budget - http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...ticize-off-the-deep-end-republican-budget.php

i mean, he's not a black neurosurgeon who criticizes Obama, so I don't know if we should trust his economic judgement, but still.

using biden to bolster ANY argument (other than how stupid biden is) only undermines anything intelligent you may one day say but have yet to.

 

[superpunk]

Lol biden guys am i right?

 

[iceberg]

Lol biden guys am i right?

and still have yet to.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

using biden to bolster ANY argument (other than how stupid biden is) only undermines anything intelligent you may one day say but have yet to.

If Biden is an idiot then Ryan getting owned by an idiot on this particular topic does not speak well of him or his plan.

 

[iceberg]

If Biden is an idiot then Ryan getting owned by an idiot on this particular topic does not speak well of him or his plan.

if you think biden - mr "use a shotgun, they're easier than an AR" isn't an idiot and you'll EVER stand up for him...

i really don't give a shit what you say from there.

biden is a jock sucking idiot who has less value than superpunk. he gaf's more than bush ever did yet, he's cool with liberals for no other reason than he's the VP.

again - labels.

 

[iceberg]

If Biden is an idiot then Ryan getting owned by an idiot on this particular topic does not speak well of him or his plan.

[video=youtube;Ia4csoQLvGY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4csoQLvGY[/video]

biden tells people to shoot a shotgun in a semi-secluded neighborhood cause they're easier to use than an AR.

yea, i quote that fool when i need to support my views.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

if you think biden - mr "use a shotgun, they're easier than an AR" isn't an idiot and you'll EVER stand up for him...

i really don't give a shit what you say from there.

biden is a jock sucking idiot who has less value than superpunk. he gaf's more than bush ever did yet, he's cool with liberals for no other reason than he's the VP.

again - labels.

The same brain that says:

biden is a jock sucking idiot

rails against:

again - labels.

And again if Biden is an idiot then what does that say about Ryan who lost to said idiot in a debate?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

[video=youtube;Ia4csoQLvGY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4csoQLvGY[/video]

biden tells people to shoot a shotgun in a semi-secluded neighborhood cause they're easier to use than an AR.

yea, i quote that fool when i need to support my views.

I am not arguing about whether or not Biden is an idiot. I don't really care. The 'idiot' won over Ryan and beat him in a debate. If you not only fail to outsmart an idiot but also are made to look like a fool then what does that say about you?

 

[iceberg]

I am not arguing about whether or not Biden is an idiot. I don't really care. The 'idiot' won over Ryan and beat him in a debate. If you not only fail to outsmart an idiot but also are made to look like a fool then what does that say about you?

it says to me, you're using a singular event to portray me as all encompassing.

i have no idea of this "biden victory" you speak so well of. i don't care. he's an idiot. if he beat an idiot in a fools game cool.

i would still cut off my testicles before using biden as a source of success.

 

[superpunk]

BUT BEN FUCKING CARSON, THE NEGRO NEUROSURGEON WHO CRITICIZES OBAMA, SAYS IT WORKS! HE IS A BLACK PERSON WHO REPUBLICANS KNOW AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HE MUST BE RIGHT.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/conservatives-criticize-paul-ryan-budget.php?ref=fpa

House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) is facing criticism for his new budget proposal from an unexpected source: conservative policy wonks.

Virtually all of them found something to like in his plan. But they voiced substantial critiques in three flavors: lament that the entitlement reforms don’t go far enough, arguments that Obamacare repeal and a 10-year balanced budget are not feasible, and worries that the plan fails to broaden the GOP’s reach among voters.

The criticisms reveal a divide between conservative thinkers, who are hungry for policy innovation in the Republican Party, and its top policy guru, who remains wedded to a set of ideas that served his party badly in the 2012 elections.

James Pethokoukis of the American Enterprise Institute criticized Ryan for leaving Medicare untouched for the next decade and excluding any reforms to Social Security. He added that Ryan’s plan to cut the top tax rate to 25 percent, “like an Obamacare repeal, ain’t going to happen.” He argued that it’s “etter to have shown how the ACA can be fixed.”

The AEI writer also posited that Ryan’s proposed deficit reduction — balancing the budget within 10 years — doesn’t need to be “quite as steep” because “[d]ebt reduction doesn’t require balance, just that the economy is growing faster than the debt.”

In a piece titled “The Ryan Budget’s Step Backward,” New York Times conservative columnist Ross Douthat lamented that the Ryan plan fails to offer “a real alternative to/replacement for the Obama health care bill.” Of Ryan’s vow to balance the budget within 10 years, Douthat retorts, “This is not going to happen, and more importantly there’s no reason why it needs to happen,” arguing that swift deficit reduction is less important than structural reforms.

Former Romney campaign adviser Avik Roy called out “a number of contradictions” in Ryan’s health care proposals. In a blog post for Forbes.com, he criticized the Wisconsinite for refusing to let up in his push to repeal Obamacare even as he assumes the law’s Medicare cuts and higher taxes and champions reforms that would convert Medicare into an Obamacare-like structure.

“[M]any conservatives have not yet reconciled themselves to the fact that Obamacare is here to stay,” Roy wrote.

The right-wing Heritage Foundation took issue with some of the fuzzy math in Ryan’s proposal. “[R]egrettably,” it said, “Ryan’s budget also relies on Obama’s $618 billion fiscal cliff tax increase and Obamacare’s $1 trillion in tax hikes … to get to balance.” Heritage also critiqued the Ryan plan for leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched for a decade.

The critiques come as Ryan and House GOP leaders are rounding up the votes to pass the budget through the chamber this week. They signal that conservative wonks, who for years have been protective of Ryan against liberals, are increasingly agitated with the party’s static policy positions on central issues.

“To those outside the House Republican bubble, meanwhile,” Douthat worried, “the biggest message that Ryan 3.0 sends is this: If the aftermath of 2012 produces fresh G.O.P. thinking on domestic policy, don’t expect it to start in the House.”

Ramesh Ponnuru, a columnist for National Review, pointed out that Ryan’s plan lacks specificity about when the budget will balance. He concluded that it tries so hard to placate Republicans that it fails to expand the party’s reach when it badly needs it.

“This looks like a concession to the internal dynamics of the [Republican] conference,” he told Slate’s Dave Weigel. “It doesn’t make as much sense in the broader context of public opinion.”

BUT BEN FUCKING CARSON

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The same brain that says:

biden is a jock sucking idiot

rails against:

again - labels.

And again if Biden is an idiot then what does that say about Ryan who lost to said idiot in a debate?

Ever heard the term, aberration?