Dez's knee only sprained

[icup]

Dez can do this shit if we're winning games and we won't give a single fuck. See Gronk in NE. Nobody cares what Gronk does. And he's way dumber than Dez.

As for right now Dez can go fuck himself until he gets back and starts scoring touchdowns again.

But Jerryworld doesn't operate remotely like NE so we're fucked anyway.

 

[Scot]

Its only when the opponents went to sleep that he scored those 60 tds I guess. Or caught 80-90 balls for 1200-1400 yds or whatever.

Then he got paid
Then all that shit stopped
He's still throwing his hissy fits, not showing up for the MRI is a prime example

He's becoming the next Tony Romo. Meaning he has been great when he's healthy, but otherwise he ain't worth shit. And he's been injured more than he's been healthy since getting paid

So what good is he?

 

[dbair1967]

He's becoming the next Tony Romo. Meaning he has been great when he's healthy, but otherwise he ain't worth shit. ?

Gee , players that are better when healthy than hurt? Never thought of that concept before.

I'm sure getting "paid" made his bones more brittle and they broke easier.

 

[Scot]

Let's take a look shall we?

Dez misses a catch in Green Bay that knocks us out of the playoffs.

He then goes into the the next season and holds out till he gets paid, misses most of the preseason. Then finally gets paid the big bucks he thinks he's worth. Then the next season he has one single game over 100 yards.

He plays game one where both he and Romo are healthy and catches 5 balls for 48 yards and no TD's. He then breaks his foot and misses the next six weeks. He comes back from injury against Seattle and has 2 catches for 12 yards. He was a non factor. Later he has a 1 catch for 9 yard game. Again he is a non factor! One fucking catch all damn game? That is embarrassing from our $70 million dollar star WR!

Out of the last 8 weeks he only has two games with more than 50 yards and only 3 TD's. Again he is a non factor more often than not

Then we have this season

NYG - 1 catch for 9 yards 0 TD (non factor)
WASH - 7 catches for 102 YARDS 0 TD (this is 2nd 100 yard game since 2014 yay)
CHI - 3 catches for 40 yards 1 TD

So let's recap, he has had 2 100 yard games since signing his big money Contract!

Yep that's worth every Penny of the $70 million. He's been injured more than he's been healthy. He throws a hissy for and misses team meetings and his MRI because he doesn't want to hear possible bad news about his knee. That's some Greg Hardy kindergarten type bull shit right there! He should be the leader of the team but this is how he acts? Disgusting

He's a fucking child with too much money who "used to be good"

Now he's just a fucking statistic. At the rate he's going we will all be saying "imagine how good he could have been if only he could have stayed healthy" at the end of his career

 

[dbair1967]

He "misses a catch that knocks us out of playoffs"

Stopped reading right there.

JFC

Fucking comedy gold man.

 

[peplaw06]

He then goes into the the next season and holds out till he gets paid, misses most of the preseason

Revisionist history. He didn't miss preseason games because of a hold out. He had the franchise tag applied, and then signed an extension at the deadline before training camp even started.

 

[Scot]

What has Dez done since getting paid?

4 TD's and 2 100 yard games since 2014. That's it! Sub par, run of the mil, bottom of the barrel WR shit right there

Shit, he should have already done that this season for the amount of money he's getting paid and for how good "he" thinks he is

This season so far
Beasley - 20 for 213 avg 10.7
Dez - 11 for 150 avg 13.6
T Willy - 7 for 122 avg 17.4
(T Willy did that in 2 games because he had zero targets in game two)

Beasley has more catches and yards and fucking Mr useless T Willy has a higher avg

He's supposed to be one of the top WR in the league? Shit he ain't even the top WR on our team

 

[peplaw06]

That's just dumb... All of it.

First of all, Dez before the extension had an elite QB throwing him the ball. Since then had 2+ games with Romo, and a smattering of shit QBs throwing him the ball in 2015 and 3 games with Dak who only has one passing TD (to Dez BTW).

Secondly, I don't give a shit what the stats say... if you think T Will or Beasley are better WRs than Dez, then you just are clueless as to what you're looking at.

 

[dbair1967]

Like I said pep, his anti-Dez rants are pure stupidity

CZ level idiocy IMO

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

We'll how well Beasley does without Dez out there.

 

[Iamtdg]

We'll how well Beasley does without Dez out there.

I'm really hoping they can get Butler involved more. He has some really good potential, methinks.

 

[Scot]

Is Dez a better WR than Beasley and T Willy? Sure. Is he one of the top WR in the league? Not any longer. Sure he was before his extension. But since getting paid he hasn't done shit. That's my point

Do I believe he will get back to being a top WR in the league? Probably at some point. At least I hope so!

The only thing Dez has proven since he got paid is that he's
1. Injury prone
2. No longer a top WR in the league
3. Allows himself to get taken out of games (having 2 catches for 12 yards in one game and 1 catch for 9 yards in another is unacceptable under any circumstance, PERIOD)
4. Still bumbles catches and does not completely secure the ball during the catch

Unless you are considering the $70 mil as payment for his past performance (pre 2015) then he has not done shit to earn his $70 mil

 

[cmd34]

1. Injury prone - Yes and no. He runs violently which leads to the potential for injuries. He plays too aggressively.
2. No longer a top WR in the league - Disagree.
3. Allows himself to get taken out of games (having 2 catches for 12 yards in one game and 1 catch for 9 yards in another is unacceptable under any circumstance, PERIOD) - Red-headed genius. Rule one of coaching football - He's either coaching it or allowing it to happen.
4. Still bumbles catches and does not completely secure the ball during the catch - I'm with you here. When it keeps happening to you, it's you.

 

[peplaw06]

He's supposed to be one of the top WR in the league? Shit he ain't even the top WR on our team

Is Dez a better WR than Beasley and T Willy? Sure.

Exactly how many voices do you have in your head?

 

[Doomsday]

3. Allows himself to get taken out of games (having 2 catches for 12 yards in one game and 1 catch for 9 yards in another is unacceptable under any circumstance, PERIOD) - Red-headed genius. Rule one of coaching football - He's either coaching it or allowing it to happen.

Agreed. This does not happen with any regular occurrence, on well coached and managed teams.

 

[Doomsday]

Its only when the opponents went to sleep

Not 'went to sleep' just decided not to take Dez out as a main defensive philosophy.

You of course aren't in any way trying to counter the facts of what I said - opponents can and do pretty much, make Dez disappear when they want. It's not speculation, it's observed fact.

 

[Iamtdg]

Exactly how many voices do you have in your head?

 

[Scot]

1. Injury prone - Yes and no. He runs violently which leads to the potential for injuries. He plays too aggressively.
2. No longer a top WR in the league - Disagree.
3. Allows himself to get taken out of games (having 2 catches for 12 yards in one game and 1 catch for 9 yards in another is unacceptable under any circumstance, PERIOD) - Red-headed genius. Rule one of coaching football - He's either coaching it or allowing it to happen.
4. Still bumbles catches and does not completely secure the ball during the catch - I'm with you here. When it keeps happening to you, it's you.

1. If he runs/plays too aggressively as to get himself injured that is injury prone. If he keeps getting injured while playing or practicing regardless of the reason, he is injury prone
2 you can disagree, but his stats state otherwise, his lack of availability due to injury state otherwise. He has had one "Dez like" game this season (now that he's finally healthy again) and that was the last game vs da bears. You know the one, it's the one where he injured himself again. That takes us back to his unavailability due to injury again. You can't be a top WR in the league if you aren't on the field making plays. It's that simple. All last season he had one decent game as well. So if you want to consider one decent game a season elite that's up to you
3. Rule one as a WR - get open. Play calling and coaching be damned, if you can't beat your man and get open first and foremost than the rest is irrelevant

 

[cmd34]

3. Rule one as a WR - get open. Play calling and coaching be damned, if you can't beat your man and get open first and foremost than the rest is irrelevant

Coaching is a factor. Is he being coached up to run sharper routes or is the staff scared of him and is letting Dez be Dez?

What about the route combinations? Are we running route combos that make sure Dez is getting the best opportunity to beat coverage? Are the coaches and QB seeing the coverage correctly? Are we running man-beaters? zone-beaters? Are you taking advantage of teams bracketing Dez?

A lot of it is coaching.

Again, you are either coaching it that way or you are allowing it to happen.

 

[cmd34]

1. If he runs/plays too aggressively as to get himself injured that is injury prone. If he keeps getting injured while playing or practicing regardless of the reason, he is injury prone

Which is why I said yes and no. His aggressive (reckless? ) style literally makes him prone to injury. Thus, the yes.

But we (the football society) have associated the term "injury prone" as someone who is soft or fragile. Dez is neither of those things. Thus, the no.