DEMOTED Mo Claiborne storms out of facility

[bbgun]

They did not have him visit the facility. Nor did they send much to his pro day.

and tip off other teams that we had interest? Jerrah's too smart for that!

 

[dbair1967]

That still doesn't mean they did their homework.

They did not have him visit the facility. Nor did they send much to his pro day.

They did not go to the level of having him fully vetted as they have done other first rounders.

That is retarded when you mortgage the upper end of a draft for the player.

Jones is an idiot GM, but nobody is going to convince me the scouts don't at least TRY to do their jobs. They watched the game tapes. The entire franchise has a great relationship with Les Miles at LSU. And you had Rob Ryan begging for more CB help and giving his two cents on the prospects.

Again everybody in the league seemed to have this guy rated as a very high pick.

 

[dbair1967]

This is from the person that posted the "we all owe Claiborne an apology" thread:

Claiborne was not doing so good in this game and I notice some of us was giving him crap the whole game. Right when we need a turnover Claiborne give us it in the form of a pick. Let all give props to him.

 

[dbair1967]

somebody at CZ photoshopped that classic Q Bong leaving Valley Ranch pic and it has Claiborne's head on it now

 

[jnday]

Game checks are separate from the deal money. He'll still get the deal money.

It wouldn't matter to me as long as I got the money.

 

[dbair1967]

Claiborne's jersey is still on the DC.com website for regular price.

 

[boozeman]

somebody at CZ photoshopped that classic Q Bong leaving Valley Ranch pic and it has Claiborne's head on it now

Amazing how they flip on a guy. Some have been saying he sucks for years. Now he only sucks because he shit on the star, or something.

 

[jnday]

That still doesn't mean they did their homework.

They did not have him visit the facility. Nor did they send much to his pro day.

They did not go to the level of having him fully vetted as they have done other first rounders.

That is retarded when you mortgage the upper end of a draft for the player.

It is retarded, but Jerry saw the chance for a "wow" draft pick, and the temptation was too much for him. I don't think they had done a good job if scouting Mo because he was out of reach until Fisher offered them a deal. If you remember, some was saying that Fisher give the Cowboys a break on the price of moving up because he had done so well with the Redskin trade.

 

[Mr.Po]

Claiborne biggest bust in Cowboys history

September, 23, 2014
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By Tim MacMahon | ESPN.com
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IRVING, Texas – Just to be clear, Dallas Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones didn't really criticize Morris Claiborne hours before the demoted cornerback’s hasty departure from the team facility.

Jones acknowledged the painfully obvious about as delicately as possible.


Claiborne
"Is he what we had hoped for at this point when we drafted him with the sixth overall pick, giving up the [second-round] pick to go up to the sixth pick to get him? No," Jones said on 105.3 The Fan. "But he's going to be a good player."

That's an awfully optimistic view of a third-year cornerback who has been picked on consistently throughout his career. Of course, it’s coming from the same mouth that declared that Claiborne was the Cowboys’ top-graded cornerback draft prospect since Deion Sanders when they made the bold move to trade up for him.

If Jones wanted to criticize Claiborne, he could have called him the biggest bust in Cowboys’ history. That’s a brutally honest view of a sixth overall pick who isn’t one of the top three corners on a defense that was the NFL’s worst last season.

If Claiborne is upset that he’s being replaced in the base defense by Orlando Scandrick -- for the second straight season -- he’s simply delusional. Sterling Moore, an undrafted player who was unemployed for several weeks last season after being cut by the Cowboys in late August, should be the Cowboys’ third corner based on merit.

That’s pretty pathetic for a player the Cowboys projected to be a perennial Pro Bowler.

The Cowboys keep trying to pump up Claiborne. They heaped praise on him during training camp until he got hurt for the third straight summer, going out of their way to massage an ego even more fragile than his body. Head coach Jason Garrett politely referred to Claiborne as a “developing player” last week when asked to assess the cornerback’s development relative to expectations when Dallas made the draft-night deal with the St. Louis Rams.

The reality is that Claiborne, whose game-sealing pick of an overthrown pass in Sunday's win over the Rams doesn't erase the fact that he got torched all day, appears to be regressing. ProFootballFocus.com’s grades ranked him 80th among cornerbacks as a rookie, 88th last season and 91st through three games this season.

There have been many Cowboys first-round picks who have been huge disappointments. Many fans begin that list with Bill Parcells’ hand-picked linebacker Bobby Carpenter, an 18th overall pick. But the price has never been as high for a bust as it was with Claiborne, who cost the Cowboys picks that turned into solid defensive tackle Michael Brockers and Pro Bowl receiver Alshon Jeffery.

That makes Claiborne the biggest bust in Cowboys history. Handling this demotion by leaving the facility in a huff only adds to it.

That’s the painful truth, whether Claiborne can handle it or not.

 

[cmd34(work)]

That still doesn't mean they did their homework.

They did not have him visit the facility. Nor did they send much to his pro day.

They did not go to the level of having him fully vetted as they have done other first rounders.

That is retarded when you mortgage the upper end of a draft for the player.

Exactly this. Jerry admitted so right after his 'highest graded player since Deion' nonsense. He said they had never met or spoke with Claiborne. You'd think you'd want to know a kid before you give up a 1st and 2nd to get him.

The scouts went off film and draft rating, which would have Claiborne as pretty damn good, not almost Deion good, but still good. What they missed on is that he's a mental midget and soft as baby shit. Might have figured that out by talking to him.

 

[cmd34(work)]

That’s the painful truth, whether the Zone can handle it or not.

Fixed.

 

[yimyammer]

Brilliant!

The Cowboys had not interviewed Claiborne at the combine or invited him to Valley Ranch. To his knowledge, they hadn't contacted his agent or his college coach. Nothing. Radio silence.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

The scouts went off film and draft rating, which would have Claiborne as pretty damn good, not almost Deion good, but still good. What they missed on is that he's a mental midget and soft as baby shit. Might have figured that out by talking to him.

 

[Hoofbite]

Right kind of guy

Well, if you've read CZ then he did this because he cares so much about the game. He just can't handle it, that's because he cares so much about the game. Anyone who cared as much as he does would probably need time to cool off.

In that case, he's too much RKG for his own good.

 

[Sheik]

They'll defend any behavior as long as the person is wearing the star.

Same people probably defended Septien to the bitter end too.

 

[Hoofbite]

Brilliant!

Wow. Just the worst scouting process of all time.

He fell to 6? They were so absolutely sure he wouldn't be there?

This team is a fucking joke. If you haven't scouted a guy, you don't fucking take him in the event he falls. You damn sure don't trade up like a moron.

 

[cmd34]

This team is a fucking joke. If you haven't scouted a guy, you don't fucking take him in the event he falls. You damn sure don't trade up like a moron.

Jerry was the Jacksonville GM from Draft Day. "What's wrong with him Sonny? Tell me what I'm missing". Jeff Fisher was probably like " We love him. We think he's Deion Sanders. It would take an awful lot to get us to move off him." Good job Jerry.

 

[Hoofbite]

Jerry's entire draft strategy is pretty much, "take 'X' player before the next team on the clock does".

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I think he is a bust. Most GMs would lose their jobs over that draft pick.

 

[NoShame]

Ha. Well that's that.

What a fuckin waste.