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Jerry's silence speaks loudly! Jerry is not interested in giving up any power. Two years in a row now he has had the chance to bring in Belichick. How can he do worse?

I don't know for sure, but I think Belichick had more power in NE than Parcells ever did at any stop. Belichick would have shown Jerry his 400 page "this is how we are going to do it" book and Jerry would have bailed.

People make way too much out of going 12-4. Not all records are created equal. The reason Dallas has gotten slaughtered by the better teams is simple. They aren't as good as their 12-4 record suggests.
Thanks to Goodell, there are no 12-4 teams anymore when the season is done. But you can be 12-5 like we were.

That being said, we beat some good teams during the regular season each of those 3 yrs and went undefeated at home, while winning almost all those games by blow out last yr. You are never going to convince me that a 9-8 Green Bay team that barely made the playoffs and had a mediocre defense was better than us and we lost because "we are not as good as our record suggests". They were also favored at home v San Fran in 2021 (even though I felt like going in to that game it was a bad matchup for us)

We had plenty of talent on this team from 2021-2023, bad coaching and poor preparation is amplified in the playoffs, and we saw that first hand in all 3 of those seasons. Then of course there's the QB problem, he simply cannot function in big games and the postseason.
 

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Some HoF coach famously said "you are what you're record says you are". It's that guy with the nickname of a fish.
Yeah, but I thin The Tuna meant it more so when applied to teams that suck hard. Like if the record is 4-12. He was saying don't sugar coat that. Don't say that you could have won if not for this or not for that.

I don't think he meant that if you're 12-4 that it means you are necessarily that record. Parcells always used to try to downplay things. Don't break out the anointing oil, etc. He was rarely Pollyanna. Now Jerry is a different story..
 

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Thanks to Goodell, there are no 12-4 teams anymore when the season is done. But you can be 12-5 like we were.

That being said, we beat some good teams during the regular season each of those 3 yrs and went undefeated at home, while winning almost all those games by blow out last yr. You are never going to convince me that a 9-8 Green Bay team that barely made the playoffs and had a mediocre defense was better than us and we lost because "we are not as good as our record suggests". They were also favored at home v San Fran in 2021 (even though I felt like going in to that game it was a bad matchup for us)

We had plenty of talent on this team from 2021-2023, bad coaching and poor preparation is amplified in the playoffs, and we saw that first hand in all 3 of those seasons. Then of course there's the QB problem, he simply cannot function in big games and the postseason.
When we played the Niners, the players went on record as saying that was a game that was a measuring stick. They proceeded to get pummeled. With the exception of the Detroit game (and I think Dallas got lucky) Dallas got beaten rather easily by every playoff team.

That means, despite the record, Dallas was NOT a true playoff caliber team. Out of the 12 wins, 8 were were against teams that finished the season with losing records: But several of those teams were among the worst in the NFL.
  • New York Giants
    • Final Record: 6-11
    • Draft Position: 6th overall pick
  • New England Patriots
    • Final Record: 4-13
    • Draft Position: 3rd overall pick
  • Los Angeles Chargers
    • Final Record: 5-12
    • Draft Position: 4th overall pick
  • Carolina Panthers
    • Final Record: 2-15
    • Draft Position: 1st overall pick
  • Washington Commanders
    • Final Record: 4-13
    • Draft Position: 2nd overall pick
  • New York Jets
    • Final Record: 7-10
    • Draft Position: 9th overall pick
Of the teams Dallas played, the following made the playoffs:
  • San Francisco 49ers: Week 5 (Loss, 10-42)
  • Philadelphia Eagles: Week 9 (Loss, 23-28) and Week 14 (Win, 33-13)
  • Buffalo Bills: Week 15 (Loss, 10-31)
  • Miami Dolphins: Week 16 (Loss, 20-22)
  • Detroit Lions: Week 17 (Win, 20-19)
  • Green Bay Packers: NFC Wild Card Round (Loss, 32-48)
SMOKE AND MIRRORS! BEATING UP ON BAD TEAMS!
 

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When we played the Niners, the players went on record as saying that was a game that was a measuring stick. They proceeded to get pummeled. With the exception of the Detroit game (and I think Dallas got lucky) Dallas got beaten rather easily by every playoff team.

That means, despite the record, Dallas was NOT a true playoff caliber team. Out of the 12 wins, 8 were were against teams that finished the season with losing records: But several of those teams were among the worst in the NFL.
  • New York Giants
    • Final Record: 6-11
    • Draft Position: 6th overall pick
  • New England Patriots
    • Final Record: 4-13
    • Draft Position: 3rd overall pick
  • Los Angeles Chargers
    • Final Record: 5-12
    • Draft Position: 4th overall pick
  • Carolina Panthers
    • Final Record: 2-15
    • Draft Position: 1st overall pick
  • Washington Commanders
    • Final Record: 4-13
    • Draft Position: 2nd overall pick
  • New York Jets
    • Final Record: 7-10
    • Draft Position: 9th overall pick
Of the teams Dallas played, the following made the playoffs:
  • San Francisco 49ers: Week 5 (Loss, 10-42)
  • Philadelphia Eagles: Week 9 (Loss, 23-28) and Week 14 (Win, 33-13)
  • Buffalo Bills: Week 15 (Loss, 10-31)
  • Miami Dolphins: Week 16 (Loss, 20-22)
  • Detroit Lions: Week 17 (Win, 20-19)
  • Green Bay Packers: NFC Wild Card Round (Loss, 32-48)
SMOKE AND MIRRORS! BEATING UP ON BAD TEAMS!
You conveniently left out wins over both the Rams (a blowout win and they were in the playoffs) and Seahawks (winning record). 5 times last yr this team scored 40 or more points in a game. But whatever.

You can only play the teams on the schedule. Why didnt everyone else beat those teams as bad we did?

But ultimately I dont care what kind of argument you want to make, you'll never convince me we were not better than a 9-8 GB team that barely made the playoffs. They lost that game because of horrendous coaching and preparation, not because GB was "better" or "more talented"

The team played absolutely horrible v San Fran and Buffalo and then had the inexplicably playoff flop v a mediocre GB team. We were a couple of bad calls away from sweeping Philly (and dominated them the 2nd time) and had a 2pt loss on the road to another playoff team.

That doesn't really equate to "we were not as good as our record"
 

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Yeah, but I thin The Tuna meant it more so when applied to teams that suck hard. Like if the record is 4-12. He was saying don't sugar coat that. Don't say that you could have won if not for this or not for that.

I don't think he meant that if you're 12-4 that it means you are necessarily that record. Parcells always used to try to downplay things. Don't break out the anointing oil, etc. He was rarely Pollyanna. Now Jerry is a different story..
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Pretty sure one of the times he said it was that first yr he coached here in Dallas.
 

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Only thing I'm surprised about tis that apparently Jerry Jones never even made any overtures. Apparently, Belichick put out feelers.

NC is a very nice campus. Great atmosphere. I don't see too much difference between teaching a 20 year old and teaching a 22 year old in the NFL. If they want to get paid then they need to act and be pros.
 

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Did you hear what Jerry said about Cooper Rush? He said one reason the running game has improved is because they are blocking it up differently and Cooper is getting them into the right plays because he reads things quickly.

Assuming Jerry is correct, I'm hoping that Dak is watching and learning and maybe he'll be able to do some of the same next year. Hopefully, it's doing Dak some good to watch.

Hey, listen, we're stuck with Prescott, so I have to be hopeful.

By the way, did anyone catch that the Falcons are now making Penix the starting quarterback for the rest of the way? I told everyone that Cousins was just a guy, just another Prescott. He won nothing in Minnesota. They tried their best to build a team around him and he won nothing.

We need to be bold otherwise all we have is what I said earlier, which is the hope that Prescott will get markedly better.
 

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By the way, did anyone catch that the Falcons are now making Penix the starting quarterback for the rest of the way? I told everyone that Cousins was just a guy, just another Prescott. He won nothing in Minnesota. They tried their best to build a team around him and he won nothing.
Penix looked pretty jaggy last yr against Michigan, just sayin
 

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Penix looked pretty jaggy last yr against Michigan, just sayin
Well, okay...let's see how he does in the next couple of years. If he sucks, he sucks. But the Falcons' brass liked him, so they took a shot.

At worst they have a back-up for the next few years. Dip into FA again if needed or who knows, maybe Milroe. I looked at the numbers a while ago. I can't remember the exact numbers, but I seem to recall that Penix is actually making less than Cooper Rush or around that number.

It beats having an albatross of a contract tied around your neck for a QB that never wins the games that matter.
 

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Well, okay...let's see how he does in the next couple of years. If he sucks, he sucks. But the Falcons' brass liked him, so they took a shot.

At worst they have a back-up for the next few years. Dip into FA again if needed or who knows, maybe Milroe. I looked at the numbers a while ago. I can't remember the exact numbers, but I seem to recall that Penix is actually making less than Cooper Rush or around that number.

It beats having an albatross of a contract tied around your neck for a QB that never wins the games that matter.
Milroe is not a legit NFL QB
 
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