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She also could have gotten 16 packs of Ramen noodles, 2lbs of Weis brand hotdogs, or even a lb of lunch meat.

That's what broke people do.

Not lazy ones that the government says we have to take care of.
 

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Even so, is it really incumbent on a business to compensate for a responsible human beings bad habits? Pay for a gym membership? I can see encouraging and influence, but putting the consequences of bad habits on others is dreadful and so are the consequences of that. Because once it's been established that you are the ward of another be it state or employer, you are then their debtor.

The longer people are enabled in their bad habits, the longer they'll maintain them and the worse they will become.

I'm not saying they should pay for a gym membership, just saying they should.

If you're in the business of insuring people, you insure people. Picking and choosing based on some sense of responsibility is bullshit. No doubt they deny legitimate claims that are too spendy as being "unnecessary". Do I think people who utilize more costs because of unhealthy lifestyles should have higher premiums than a crossfit champion, absolutely. But that person should still be covered.
 

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I fail to see the logic of taxing hardworking people and then giving it to lazy people who refuse to work.

Do we have any libtards on the board anymore? I wish superpunk was here to explain.
 
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That's what broke people do.

Not lazy ones that the government says we have to take care of.

Not all people on assistance are lazy. My rant wasn't against welfare it was against people who use it for BS purchases.
 

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I didn't say that. A lot of people need assistance. You'd think by now they could learn to weed out the ones who really don't.
 

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I'm not saying they should pay for a gym membership, just saying they should.

If you're in the business of insuring people, you insure people. Picking and choosing based on some sense of responsibility is bullshit. No doubt they deny legitimate claims that are too spendy as being "unnecessary". Do I think people who utilize more costs because of unhealthy lifestyles should have higher premiums than a crossfit champion, absolutely. But that person should still be covered.

:lol

I know what you meant, I'm just laughing because the mistype is funny.

The problem is exactly what is being stated in this article; insuring behavior is a wretched idea. Over-eating isn't cancer or getting a virus or a simple matter of aging. It's a consequence of habit. There's no need to accommodate it, either through the employer or the insurer. Yes they can be insured, but classifying it as a disease and all sorts of unnecessary treatments to follow are only going to drag on the already dragging system.
 

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If there's any excess cost from treating all these extra fatties, the South Eastern US will likely drain the bank.

Then again, obese people have disease states that are readily treatable with cheap medications. Give a guy some cholesterol meds or watch him have a heart attack and go to the ER and rack up 50K after undergoing bypass or stent placement.

You could treat 1000 people with high cholesterol for a year just by preventing a single heart attack.

From a business standpoint, any insurance company that doesn't cover this sort of stuff in the first place is likely losing money on the deal. Pay for a couple office visits and even a gym membership and you're still well under the cost of treating the complications of obesity for that same patient.
Yes, we like our food fried here in the South. Being a fat ass is not frowned upon. We refuse to change our lifestyle because of some Yankee health kick. We like everything fried, lots of sugar and tons of salt. It is good. Try it.
 

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I had some friend chicken for lunch. Southern Classic Chicken. Best I've ever had.

But I'm not fat. I go to spinning class 3 times a week.
 

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I eat fried foods frequently, but since I haven't caught the obesity disease, I'm pretty trim. I might be immune. Maybe I should be studied through science and help find a cure for this dreadful disease.
 
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I eat fried foods frequently, but since I haven't caught the obesity disease, I'm pretty trim. I might be immune. Maybe I should be studied through science and help find a cure for this dreadful disease.

Height and weight and we will be the judge fatty. :awkward
 

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Height and weight and we will be the judge fatty. :awkward

That is a poor way to measure if a person is a fat ass. I used to weigh 230lbs and I was only 5'9". I had 20 inch biceps, massive thighs and broad shoulder with a very deep chest. At the time, it was muscle weight. All I did was lift weights. I only had a 36" waist at that weight. Body types don't fit the little doctors weight chart. I was strong as an ox at the time.
 
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That is a poor way to measure if a person is a fat ass. I used to weigh 230lbs and I was only 5'9". I had 20 inch biceps, massive thighs and broad shoulder with a very deep chest. At the time, it was muscle weight. All I did was lift weights. I only had a 36" waist at that weight. Body types don't fit the little doctors weight chart. I was strong as an ox at the time.

Sure it was muscle and Oprah is just big boned. Fat Asssss!
 

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6'1 200

My shoulders don't fit through a door. I was destined for the NFL before an accident at work wrecked my knee. I cried like a baby when the doctor said I wouldn't play football again.
 

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6'1 200

My shoulders don't fit through a door. I was destined for the NFL before an accident at work wrecked my knee. I cried like a baby when the doctor said I wouldn't play football again.
You don't see many football players in the 200 range (especially white players, sans kickers)
 

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You don't see many football players in the 200 range (especially white players, sans kickers)

They're all at least 230.

I was 270 before my knee injury. I was destined to be the next Randy White.

I hate kickers, BTW.
 

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Sure it was muscle and Oprah is just big boned. Fat Asssss!

I was actually into power lifting and I have a big frame. I wasn't fat then. I could lose ten pounds now, but I am not fat ass. I don't really care if I am though. I eat what I want, when I want and drink about three ltrs of Coke a day. I also smoke about two packs a day. It's called living son.
 

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I was actually into power lifting and I have a big frame. I wasn't fat then. I could lose ten pounds now, but I am not fat ass. I don't really care if I am though. I eat what I want, when I want and drink about three ltrs of Coke a day. I also smoke about two packs a day. It's called living son.

Anyone who says they could lose 10 pounds needs to lose 20+

Also, I would consider drinking that much soda punishment.
 

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I was actually into power lifting and I have a big frame. I wasn't fat then. I could lose ten pounds now, but I am not fat ass. I don't really care if I am though. I eat what I want, when I want and drink about three ltrs of Coke a day. I also smoke about two packs a day. It's called living son.

One day jnday won't be at DCU. And we'll all know why.
 
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