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I often wonder why Ethiopians are immune to this disease. Maybe we should study them and find out why.

Under the Affordable Care Act, more insurance plans are expected to start covering the cost of obesity treatments, including counseling on diet and exercise as well as medications and surgery. These are treatments that most insurance companies don't cover now.

The move is a response to the increasing number of health advocates and medical groups that say obesity should be classified as a disease.

Not everyone thinks this is a good idea, but this summer, the American Medical Association determined that obesity is a disease.

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If there's any excess cost from treating all these extra fatties, the South Eastern US will likely drain the bank.

Then again, obese people have disease states that are readily treatable with cheap medications. Give a guy some cholesterol meds or watch him have a heart attack and go to the ER and rack up 50K after undergoing bypass or stent placement.

You could treat 1000 people with high cholesterol for a year just by preventing a single heart attack.

From a business standpoint, any insurance company that doesn't cover this sort of stuff in the first place is likely losing money on the deal. Pay for a couple office visits and even a gym membership and you're still well under the cost of treating the complications of obesity for that same patient.
 

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From a business standpoint, any insurance company that doesn't cover this sort of stuff in the first place is likely losing money on the deal. Pay for a couple office visits and even a gym membership and you're still well under the cost of treating the complications of obesity for that same patient.

Yeah alot of companies are doing creative things now to get people to take advantage of different wellness initiatives. The problem is most fat people wont comply. Most of them are fat because they are lazy. Just simply giving them stuff isn't an incentive.

People have to WANT to change. That's why you are seeing more and more employer groups get smart and now start basing their employee benefit contributions based upon employees being healthier. The one's who smoke or who have BMI out of line, or chronic diseases and don't go for their offc visits and lab etc etc pay more. As it should be.
 

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If there's any excess cost from treating all these extra fatties, the South Eastern US will likely drain the bank.

Then again, obese people have disease states that are readily treatable with cheap medications. Give a guy some cholesterol meds or watch him have a heart attack and go to the ER and rack up 50K after undergoing bypass or stent placement.

You could treat 1000 people with high cholesterol for a year just by preventing a single heart attack.

From a business standpoint, any insurance company that doesn't cover this sort of stuff in the first place is likely losing money on the deal. Pay for a couple office visits and even a gym membership and you're still well under the cost of treating the complications of obesity for that same patient.

Even so, is it really incumbent on a business to compensate for a responsible human beings bad habits? Pay for a gym membership? I can see encouraging and influence, but putting the consequences of bad habits on others is dreadful and so are the consequences of that. Because once it's been established that you are the ward of another be it state or employer, you are then their debtor.

The longer people are enabled in their bad habits, the longer they'll maintain them and the worse they will become.
 
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None of this actually addresses the causes of the obesity epidemic. The government goes out of its way to protect the companies who may be partially responsible for tainting our food supply (Monsanto). But it's okay if we provide insurance coverage for the people affected by it? Treat the effects but not the cause.
 

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They do worse than protect them, they appoint it's President head of the FDA. Twice.
 

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So how do we get the fat fuckers to stop shoving crap food down the pie hole? One step would be to severely limit what can be purchased with government handouts.
 

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I drove by a school bus stop today that was predominantly Spanish and I saw a young kid eating skittles and drinking soda at 7am
 
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So how do we get the fat fuckers to stop shoving crap food down the pie hole? One step would be to severely limit what can be purchased with government handouts.

I agree with that. I was at the gas station getting my morning coffee and some plump lady used her food stamp card for a sausage sand which and a Pepsi. That annoys me. Use that for real food.
 
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I agree with that. I was at the gas station getting my morning coffee and some plump lady used her food stamp card for a sausage sand which and a Pepsi. That annoys me. Use that for real food.

That shits cheaper than fruit and vegetables.

Although that bitch don't need a soda to live, water is free
 
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She also could have gotten 16 packs of Ramen noodles, 2lbs of Weis brand hotdogs, or even a lb of lunch meat.
 
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