Broaddus: Scout's Big Prediction - Hanna Contributes More Than Escobar

dbair1967 · Jul 5, 2013

If Broaddus is predicting Hanna will be the 2nd guy, put all your money on Escobar

Iamtdg · Jul 5, 2013

Bob Sacamano said:
Yes...yes I would.

So when are you disappearing again?

Then you and Jerruh both think alike. That should jump your self-esteem quite a bit.

Oh, and nice shot. Keep it going. It's all you got.

Bluenoser · Jul 5, 2013

Midswat said:
And missed out on some talented offensive/defensive lineman & safeties in the process.

No o line were taken in the 2nd after we picked. The only d line were Hankins who doesn't fit the system and Hunt who is a boom or bust pick. Swearinger is the only player maybe. I can't remember but didn't he have off field issues?

dbair1967 · Jul 5, 2013

Midswat said:
And missed out on some talented offensive/defensive lineman & safeties in the process.

Like who?

Bob Sacamano · Jul 5, 2013

Bluenoser said:
No o line were taken in the 2nd after we picked. The only d line were Hankins who doesn't fit the system and Hunt who is a boom or bust pick. Swearinger is the only player maybe. I can't remember but didn't he have off field issues?

Not off-field issues. Some penalty issues though.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jul 5, 2013

junk said:
Bob loves Escobar for some reason. Two TE offenses suck though. Not worth the investment for them to sort of work.

If you have a decent OL, you really don't need to run 2 TE sets.

Bob Sacamano · Jul 5, 2013

LAZARUS_LOGAN said:
If you have a decent OL, you really don't need to run 2 TE sets.

I don't think you know what purpose the 2-TE serves.

It has really nothing to do with max-protecting the QB.

dbair1967 · Jul 5, 2013

LAZARUS_LOGAN said:
If you have a decent OL, you really don't need to run 2 TE sets.

Yeah WTF does Bill Belichick know right?

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Jul 5, 2013

dbair1967 said:
If Broaddus is predicting Hanna will be the 2nd guy, put all your money on Escobar

Well that was going to happen regardless because of Escobar's draft positioning. Has nothing to do with what Broaddus says.

Iamtdg · Jul 5, 2013

dbair1967 said:
Like who?

Hankins and Swearinger right off the top of my head.

dbair1967 · Jul 5, 2013

Iamtdg said:
Hankins and Swearinger right off the top of my head.

Hankins has bust written all over him.

Liked Swearinger, but we ended up with Wilcox who has a chance to be pretty good himself.

Iamtdg · Jul 5, 2013

dbair1967 said:
Yeah WTF does Bill Belichick know right?

Yeah, it's the 12 personnel set that makes them so successful. If they didn't have that they would fall apart at Brady's feet. :lol

Iamtdg · Jul 5, 2013

dbair1967 said:
Hankins has bust written all over him.

Liked Swearinger, but we ended up with Wilcox who has a chance to be pretty good himself.

Okay, I'll play that game.

Escobar has bust written all over him.

Now you go.

dbair1967 · Jul 5, 2013

Iamtdg said:
Okay, I'll play that game.

Escobar has bust written all over him.

Now you go.

Find me some stuff that says Escobar doesn't work hard and takes plays off, like Hankins

Iamtdg · Jul 5, 2013

dbair1967 said:
Find me some stuff that says Escobar doesn't work hard and takes plays off, like Hankins

WEAKNESSES Does not absorb or run through contact as well during routes as he does at the catch point. A straight-line mover after the catch, very little wiggle or straight-up tackle breaking. Not a blocker, either plays too close to his body or lunges from a distance. Soft and tentative on first contact. Was held out of the full-time starting role in 2011 because of it. Leads with elbows or shoulders when blocking.

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Hoe doesn't give 100% when blocking and that has been documented on a ton of draft profiles for him.

boozeman · Jul 5, 2013

Bob Sacamano said:
While Gavin Escobar will be the next Jimmy Graham.

Hoofbite · Jul 5, 2013

Bob Sacamano said:
I don't think you know what purpose the 2-TE serves.

It has really nothing to do with max-protecting the QB.

Ha! You apparently haven't watched the last 6 years of Dallas running the 2TE sets.

Bob Sacamano · Jul 5, 2013

Hoofbite said:
Ha! You apparently haven't watched the last 6 years of Dallas running the 2TE sets.

The Patriots tried unsuccessfully to find the players to run the 2-TE set for awhile too. Since at least 2004 when they drafted Ben Watson in the 1st round to pair with Daniel Graham; who they also chose with a 1st round selection in 2002.

They struck out selecting 2 TEs in the 2006 draft: David Thomas and Garrett Mills; 3rd and 4th round respectively.

Finally they hit it rich in the 2010 draft with the selections of Gronkowski and Hernandez.

So as has been proven, it takes time.

Hoofbite · Jul 5, 2013

Bob Sacamano said:
The Patriots tried unsuccessfully to find the players to run the 2-TE set for awhile too. Since at least 2004 when they drafted Ben Watson in the 1st round to pair with Daniel Graham; who they also chose with a 1st round selection in 2002.

They struck out selecting 2 TEs in the 2006 draft: David Thomas and Garrett Mills; 3rd and 4th round respectively.

Finally they hit it rich in the 2010 draft with the selections of Gronkowski and Hernandez.

So as has been proven, it takes time.

That doesn't prove anything and all this is just bullshit.

Dallas runs the 2TE like a 6OL set so all the masturbating to the new version of the 2TE set is just wasted lube.

Bob Sacamano · Jul 5, 2013

Hoofbite said:
That doesn't prove anything and all this is just bullshit.

Dallas runs the 2TE like a 6OL set so all the masturbating to the new version of the 2TE set is just wasted lube.

That's because their great hope as a 2nd receiving TE turned out to be a much better blocker than reliable receiving threat.

Using Escobar and Hanna as an extra blocker would be a waste of time.

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