Bloomber News: As foolish as its owner

[VTA]

How Did the U.S. Lose the Egyptian People?

Easy. The Traitor in Chief, turning on Mubarak and the Egyptian people. All U.S. allies dumped in favor of radical islamists.

A dopey bunch pretending it's some sort of quandry, in order to guard our Traitor In Chief's image. Once the flowery Arab Spring, now a vicious, miserable situation for anyone not ready to return to the stone age of stoning people for immoral behavior and religious persecution.

So here’s a question that’s nagging at me as we watch millions of Egyptians express their loathing for Mohamed Mursi, their hapless, power-grabbing president, and for his Muslim Brotherhood movement: How exactly did the U.S. come to be seen by Egyptian secularists and liberals as the handmaiden of a cultish fundamentalist political party whose motto includes this heartening sentiment: “Jihad is our way, and dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope”?

I mean, how did the U.S. fail to formulate a strategy that would advance both American interests and American values in the largest and most crucial Arab state? Within a span of just a few years, Egyptians have somehow convinced themselves that the U.S. has been an ally of both Egypt’s former dictator, Hosni Mubarak, and Mubarak’s main enemy, the Muslim Brotherhood.

Drivel

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Poli thread... But what do you think is drivel?

 

[VTA]

yeah sorry about that. I keep thinking Poli is still at the top of the forum.

I think it's drivel, because we know why it happened. Normal people do not want an Islamic dictatorship. Bloomberg News is either playing dumb or simply is ignorant, which I doubt.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Heh... First login to the poli board...

But I must be missing something... He's being critical of the Obama admin, right? And agreeing with you that all this unrest is because the people don't want a fundamentalist government?

 

[VTA]

Heh... First login to the poli board...

But I must be missing something... He's being critical of the Obama admin, right? And agreeing with you that all this unrest is because the people don't want a fundamentalist government?

In the wrong sense.

The crisis of the past few days, which may end in a military coup (which would then start the next crisis), might have been avoided had the Obama administration used its leverage -- the $1.5 billion in aid the U.S. is giving Egypt this year, for starters -- to force Mursi to include the opposition in his government from the outset. It didn’t. And the Egyptian masses noticed.

Trying to placate them with ridiculous amounts of our money isn't the answer. Not dumping our last lackey (Mubarak) was not sustainable as bribery never is, but essentially handing him over and accepting what followed is a tragedy. Our ambassador and President can talk about Democracy and voter respect out of the sides of their mouths all they want, the fact that the Egyptian people are once again in the streets and highly pissed off has proven that it was just that: Talk. And they knew it would be. If the U.S. has (had) influence in Egypt, it could easily have stemmed this Muslim Brotherhood crap and not began the terrible tact of recognizing it, like it's on it's way toward doing now with the Taliban.

Pretending this is politics as usual is terrible and this is going to go down as one of this country's worse snafu's.

 

[VTA]

Marines poised for mission in Egypt

A contingent of the Marines' new fast reaction force for rescue missions in Africa has been moved to Sigonella, Italy, for possible action in Egypt.

"This is certainly one of the possibilities of the (task force)," Marine Capt. Eric Flanagan, a spokesman based at the Pentagon, said in an email. "The unit is always on standby with a short tether."

With Egypt teetering on anarchy, the 500-member Marine unit could be called on to swoop in and help secure the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

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The Special Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force for Crisis Response was formed after the attack on the U.S. embassy and a CIA outpost in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11, 2012. Four Americans were killed in that attack, including the ambassador.

Link

 

[iceberg]

just stay out of it, quit giving them $$$, and let them figure out what they wanna be when they grow up.

 

[JBond]

Why has Obama chosen to align himself with fanatical Muslim terrorist groups? Can any of the Obama supporters explain this?

 

[VTA]

Amazingly fast coup. Morsi is out and under house arrest, constitution is suspended. Mind you up until yesterday Obama was still backing Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood. Where it'll go is anybody's guess, but if the military is still sane enough to turn on the MB, there may be hope.

 

[jeebus]

Amazingly fast coup. Morsi is out and under house arrest, constitution is suspended. Mind you up until yesterday Obama was still backing Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood. Where it'll go is anybody's guess, but if the military is still sane enough to turn on the MB, there may be hope.

Damn

 

[iceberg]

Amazingly fast coup. Morsi is out and under house arrest, constitution is suspended. Mind you up until yesterday Obama was still backing Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood. Where it'll go is anybody's guess, but if the military is still sane enough to turn on the MB, there may be hope.

yea, i was getting me some thai food for a late lunch and saw this on the news and was just blown away at how fast it was moving.

poor obama. but like i said, we should stop sending $ and just let them do what they wanna do.

 

[dbair1967]

Why has Obama chosen to align himself with fanatical Muslim terrorist groups? Can any of the Obama supporters explain this?

Its all just a coincidence.

 

[lons]

The Middle East is like that Uncle that never quite got it. He's got tons of potential, but he's more at ease with taking drugs, not working, and bumming off everyone.

Pull out the troops, let us get out own damn oil from out own damn land and let them figure out what they wanna do themselves. Threaten anyone that dare send them money or buy anything from them with war and basically put them all in time out for a decade or 3. Tough love so to speak.