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The Vikings deactivated him last week less than 24 hours after they learned he was indicted. He was reinstated for all of what, 2 days? Monday and Tuesday. I don't see that as waiting for due process.

The fact that they needn't wait for those cases to wind their way through the courts before suspending a player. They are not beholden to those courts.
They may not be beholden to the courts, but the courts are how we decide guilty or not guilty in this country. If it's not been decided yet, then you're subject to making rash decisions based on speculation and innuendo. I guarantee every single person looking at this would want their employers and society to wait for the process to run its course before they made a judgment. Yet, few are willing to give due process to other people. It's frightening.
 

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They may not be beholden to the courts, but the courts are how we decide guilty or not guilty in this country. If it's not been decided yet, then you're subject to making rash decisions based on speculation and innuendo. I guarantee every single person looking at this would want their employers and society to wait for the process to run its course before they made a judgment. Yet, few are willing to give due process to other people. It's frightening.
Of course, this is why we have civil court. Sue they asses.
 

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The Vikings deactivated him last week less than 24 hours after they learned he was indicted. He was reinstated for all of what, 2 days? Monday and Tuesday. I don't see that as waiting for due process.

That's because he already admitted to whipping his kid. The don't have to wait for the state of Texas to find that toxic or punishable. For the record, the Vikes only sat Peterson because Radison, Nike, and the beer companies were getting cold feet, not to mention the media onslaught and public outcry. They finally did the right thing, but for the wrong reasons.

They may not be beholden to the courts, but the courts are how we decide guilty or not guilty in this country. If it's not been decided yet, then you're subject to making rash decisions based on speculation and innuendo. I guarantee every single person looking at this would want their employers and society to wait for the process to run its course before they made a judgment. Yet, few are willing to give due process to other people. It's frightening.

true, but the standards for employees in the public eye are a lot higher. a plumber might be able to keep his job until the matter is resolved but not a high-profile newscaster. instead, they're usually put on leave. and there's no "innuendo" because Peterson, like Rice, already copped to the abuse.
 
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That's because he already admitted to whipping his kid. The don't have to wait for the state of Texas to find that toxic or punishable.

true, but the standards for employees in the public eye are a lot higher. a plumber might be able to keep his job until the matter is resolved but not a high-profile newscaster. instead, they're usually put on leave. and there's no "innuendo" because Peterson, like Rice, already copped to the abuse.
He didn't cop to abuse. He's admitted to disciplining his child. Big difference. He hasn't admitted guilt yet.

For the record, the Vikes only sat Peterson because Radison, Nike, and the beer companies were getting cold feet, not to mention the media onslaught and public outcry. They finally did the right thing, but for the wrong reasons.
Exactly. They're not taking a moral stand. It's about dollars and cents. I don't think taking action for the wrong reason makes the league or the Vikings look any better.
 

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I guarantee every single person looking at this would want their employers and society to wait for the process to run its course before they made a judgment. Yet, few are willing to give due process to other people. It's frightening.
Sure is.

People are perfectly content letting the national media basically decide people's fates. It's scary.
 
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49ers are allowing for due process with regard to McDonald.

Imagine if they went high and to the right when Kaepernick was accused earlier this year by that slut.

As far as Greg Hardy, I was listening to the radio this morning and they said when he appealed his conviction, in North or South Carolina, that as far as the courts are concerned the initial trial never took place.
 

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He didn't cop to abuse. He's admitted to disciplining his child. Big difference. He hasn't admitted guilt yet.

He admits to inflicting the injuries. Whether or not he or the court thinks it's "abuse" is irrelevant. If he's bad for business, he goes.

Exactly. They're not taking a moral stand. It's about dollars and cents. I don't think taking action for the wrong reason makes the league or the Vikings look any better.

Their motivations are suspect and self-serving, but sitting him was the right thing to do.
 

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The Vikings deactivated him last week less than 24 hours after they learned he was indicted. He was reinstated for all of what, 2 days? Monday and Tuesday. I don't see that as waiting for due process.

They may not be beholden to the courts, but the courts are how we decide guilty or not guilty in this country. If it's not been decided yet, then you're subject to making rash decisions based on speculation and innuendo. I guarantee every single person looking at this would want their employers and society to wait for the process to run its course before they made a judgment. Yet, few are willing to give due process to other people. It's frightening.

Um... He testified to the grand jury for over three hours and admitted all of it. I seem to remember several rushing to judgment regarding Travon
 
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Um... He testified to the grand jury for over three hours and admitted all of it.
Do you have the grand jury transcript? He's represented by a damn good attorney. I seriously doubt he testified to the grand jury and admitted to the elements of the offense.

I seem to remember several rushing to judgment regarding Travon
Seriously? You think I rushed to judgment in Trayvon's case? You have a terrible memory. Just throwing shit out there cause you think it makes me look bad. Grow up.
 
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49ers are allowing for due process with regard to McDonald.
McDonald hasn't even been criminally charged yet. It's way too early to say they're allowing for due process. I suspect given what's happened the past couple of weeks, if he gets formally charged he will be suspended or deactivated. If that happens, it's not due process... unless it's a new theory of due process... We give you only as much process as we think you're due.

As far as Greg Hardy, I was listening to the radio this morning and they said when he appealed his conviction, in North or South Carolina, that as far as the courts are concerned the initial trial never took place.
I wouldn't be too surprised if that was right... But he is still formally charged, just like Peterson.
 

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You guys understand that money for the Vikings and the NFL is the only reason Peterson and Hardy are on this special time off with pay list right?
 

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You guys understand that money for the Vikings and the NFL is the only reason Peterson and Hardy are on this special time off with pay list right?

Well, you could say money for the media did it. The media exploits child abuse to make money. I really cant think of a more blatantlyh immoral job than modern news reporter.
 

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Peterson in "denial" over future per sources

Sources: Peterson 'doesn't get it'


Updated: September 21, 2014, 11:47 AM ET

By Chris Mortensen | ESPN

Sources: Peterson In Denial About Future

Adrian Peterson still has not come to grips with the prospect that his 2014 season has all but officially ended and that his future in the NFL is uncertain, multiple sources have told ESPN.

Even if Peterson reaches a plea deal on a child abuse charge with Texas prosecutors, the NFL will severely discipline the Minnesota Vikings star, according to sources.

Peterson is in denial about his future, according to a team source. The Pro Bowler tweeted Friday that he passed a lie detector test, which served as further proof, according to multiple sources, that he "really doesn't get it."

The Vikings do not foresee Peterson in their future, according to team sources, following a botched attempt to activate the running back this past Monday only to reverse course Wednesday by placing him on the commissioner's exempt list.

Peterson faces a child abuse charge in Texas for using a wooden switch to spank his 4-year-old son in May. He has said he meant only to discipline the boy and not hurt him.

Since he is on the exempt list, Peterson can collect the remainder of his $11.75 million salary for this season. However, the Vikings have not disclosed whether they plan to activate Peterson at any point this season.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell mentioned child abuse as a violation that the league will harshly punish during his news conference Friday, prompting the Vikings to change their expectations regarding Peterson's potential return to the team, according to sources.
 
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Behind Peterson's perfect image lay an imperfect human being
Article by: MIKE KASZUBA, ROCHELLE OLSON and PAUL MCENROE Updated: October 6, 2014 - 10:21 AM

Adrian Peterson was the face of the Vikings and marketing magic, his brushes with the law and personal life ignored – until suddenly no one could look away.

With a new season, a new coach and a $1 billion stadium on the way, the Minnesota Vikings turned to their undisputed star last summer to appear on the team’s yearbook cover: Adrian Peterson, standing confidently in a dirty purple jersey.

In an accompanying interview, Peterson said it was easy being the public face of the Vikings because “I don’t really get into a lot of trouble.”

Just a few weeks later, he was indicted in Texas on charges of whipping his child, and now a Hall of Fame career has come to a jarring halt. Peterson is scheduled to make his first court appearance Wednesday, and he remains on a paid suspension from the Vikings until the case is resolved.

On the field, Peterson has been a breathtaking athlete, seeming to relish running over defenders even more than running past them. Raised by a single mother in rural Texas — his father was a felon — he had grown up to sign the richest running-back contract in NFL history. Off the field, his winning smile and modest, gentle demeanor made him one of the NFL’s most bankable players. In one of countless volunteer events recounted by Vikings staff, Peterson took children holiday shopping at Dick’s Sporting Goods last year, spending more than $100 on each child. Some of the most prominent corporate brands in America, such as Nike and General Mills, have linked their image with No. 28.

Sometimes, that has meant looking past incidents of questionable judgment and troubling behavior.

Records examined by the Star Tribune show that Peterson, who was married earlier this year, has fathered at least six children out of wedlock. Two of them, a boy and a girl, were born to different mothers a month apart in May and June 2010, according to birth records.

Peterson also has had several scrapes with the law in Minnesota and Texas, two involving nighttime carousing. In 2011 he was the subject of a six-month police investigation of alleged criminal sexual misconduct during a night of partying at a Twin Cities hotel; no charges were ever filed. And while Peterson is well-known for his generosity to local charities, his own charitable foundation has filed contradictory financial records.

Peterson and his attorney declined to comment for this story.

Yet any contradictions between Peterson’s public image and private life didn’t seem to matter — until the photos of bloody welts on his 4-year-old son surfaced last month, and the public began to ask how well they actually knew the genial young athlete.

A celebrated freshman
Adrian Peterson arrived at the University of Oklahoma in 2004 as one of the most heralded high school players in the country. In his freshman year he finished second in balloting for the Heisman Trophy, college football’s most prestigious honor.

Soon, he was confronting the hazards of sports stardom. While at Oklahoma, Peterson was investigated — but cleared — over the aborted purchase of a Lexus from a local auto dealer. Two teammates, including the Sooners’ starting quarterback, were dismissed from the team after school officials investigated reports they received extra money from the dealership.

Peterson himself had possession of a car for several weeks before returning it. His mother told reporters that the family could not afford the payments. A former dealership owner defended Peterson’s arrangement, saying it was normal to allow potential buyers to drivea car before financing was secured.

After Peterson’s indictment last month, Oklahoma Head Coach Bob Stoops praised his former star, and told the “Dan Patrick Show,” a syndicated sports television program, that Peterson “had a good, strong family around him.” At the same time, Stoops acknowledged that Peterson’s father was in prison while Oklahoma was recruiting the young star.

Peterson, who was drafted after his junior year, recently donated $1 million to the university. It was the largest financial gift from a former football player.

“He’s a beautiful person,’’ Oklahoma athletic department spokesman Pete Moris said in a recent interview.

Night of partying
Once he arrived in Minnesota in 2007, Peterson’s popularity rocketed nearly every time he touched the football. In Sports Illustrated’s annual NFL season preview issue on Sept. 1, Peterson anchored an eight-page ad for the league’s Sunday Ticket and DirecTV.

When Peterson suddenly appeared at the State Capitol one day in 2012, with the Vikings stadium subsidy package hanging in the balance, Vikings representative Lester Bagley made sure that several legislators got a chance to ride in a capitol elevator with the star.

When the Vikings broke ground on their new stadium last December, Peterson was the only player to participate in the ceremony.

But for Peterson and other Vikings, temptation was never far away.

Dan Guimont owned Boomtown, a Mankato bar where the Vikings gathered during summer training camp. Guimont said he would hire security guards to make sure the “jersey chasers” — young women seeking out Vikings players — were kept away.

“I don’t know where these dollies came from,” Guimont remarked, but he noted that Peterson was one in a group of Vikings who stayed away from the women who frequented his bar.

Peterson has not, however, always proved so disciplined. He has fathered six children by six women, and the children live in at least three states — Minnesota, Georgia and Texas — according to court records reviewed by the Star Tribune, and according to sources familiar with his family. He met one of those children, a son, shortly before the boy died last year in South Dakota after being beaten by another man.

In an interview with ESPN a year ago, Peterson declined to say how many children he had. “I know the truth,” he said. “I’m comfortable with that knowledge.”

As Peterson’s fame grew, the Vikings always tried to give Minnesota a star that fans could admire. The team highlighted Peterson’s many charity appearances, and he was known around Winter Park for greeting janitors with the same warmth and enthusiasm he extended to Zygi Wilf, the team’s owner. One source described the afternoon that Peterson suffered a potentially career-ending knee injury during a game but, while being carried off the field, he insisted on signing a jersey he had promised to a young fan before the game.

In an interview with the Huffington Post last week, former Vikings punter Chris Kluwe called Peterson “one of the most down-to-earth superstars I have ever met.”

Those images were juxtaposed with more jarring headlines. In one incident, Peterson was accused of resisting arrest during a scuffle at a Texas nightclub, though he was not charged. Back in Minnesota, he was cited in 2009 for driving 109 miles per hour in a 55 mile per hour zone.

In the fall of 2011, by then one of the NFL’s greatest runners, Peterson signed a record-breaking contract, a seven-year agreement that could pay him as much as $100 million.

Three months later, he was at the center of an incident in an Eden Prairie hotel room that resulted in an accusation of rape and triggered a lengthy police investigation.

The 38-page police report details a night of drinking, arguing and sex that involved the running back, two relatives — including Peterson’s brother, a minor — and four women, in various pairs. One of those present, Chris Brown, a Peterson relative who lives with him in Eden Prairie, told police that he paid for the room using a company credit card for Peterson’s All Day, Inc.

As the night wore on, the report says, one woman who said she knew Peterson previously became upset when she saw him having sex with another woman. She started an argument that lasted at least an hour. According to the report, when she told him that she was “emotionally attached to him,” Peterson reminded her that he was engaged to another woman and had a baby.

The next day one of the women filed a police complaint that was investigated for months. Peterson insisted on his innocence and, at one point, arrived to provide evidence at police headquarters through a back door, his face shrouded by the hood of his sweatshirt.

His attorney, Peter Wold, arranged for Peterson to take a polygraph test, and said he quickly passed and that he also tested “clean” for drugs.

“The presumption of guilt is magnified for someone like AP, even when he’s innocent,” said Wold.

Hennepin County prosecutors, after reviewing the file, declined to file charges.

Charity questions
Peterson’s problems came despite NFL programs designed to help players cope with sudden wealth and fame. The NFL holds regular symposiums to help rookies prepare for “their new positions as ambassadors of the league.” In June, the four-day session took place in Canton, Ohio, the site of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Retired Vikings wide receiver and Hall of Famer Cris Carter was among the speakers.

Still, some NFL veterans say the league hasn’t done enough.

Matt Blair, the Vikings’ former All-Pro linebacker, said the league needs to do a better job of spelling out what’s off limits to young athletes who may have had little preparation for riches and stardom.

There still is no concise list, Blair said, adding that the “NFL has to provide [one] — from A to Z.”

Peterson’s indictment has also thrown a spotlight on his charity, Adrian Peterson’s All Day Foundation, which focuses on at-risk children, particularly girls. The charity shut down its website following the September indictment.

The charity’s 2011 financial report showed $247,064 in total revenue, and listed just three organizations that received money. A fourth outlay, entitled simply “clothing for needy families,” listed “unknown” for the number of recipients.

In 2009, the charity said its largest gift, $70,000, went to Straight From the Heart Ministries in Laurel, Md. But Donna Farley, president and founder of the Maryland organization, said it never received any money from Peterson’s foundation. “There have been no outside [contributions] other than people in my own circle,” said Farley. “Adrian Peterson — definitely not.”

The East Texas Food Bank, based in Tyler, said it received money from Peterson’s foundation in 2009, although the foundation’s tax filing for the year listed just one donation to a food bank — the North Texas Food Bank, based in Dallas.

Colleen Brinkmann, the chief philanthropy officer for the North Texas Food Bank, said that while her agency partnered with Dallas Cowboys players, she could not recall ever getting money from the All Day Foundation. “Was he with the Cowboys before?” she asked of Peterson. “I’m not a football fan.”

Panicked sponsors
Peterson insisted that he never intended to injure his son, that he was merely disciplining him the same way he’d been disciplined as a child. But the child abuse indictment has left Vikings fans reeling — a recent Star Tribune poll found that 57 percent of adult Minnesotans found his behavior abusive — and has stunned Peterson’s corporate and charitable partners.

Seventy-two hours before he was indicted Sept. 12, Peterson hosted 100 people for a Special Olympics fundraiser at his home. Special Olympics Minnesota said the event “celebrated the power of sport and how it transforms, unites and reveals the champion within.”

Barely a week later, with Peterson’s career in free fall, Special Olympics joined other corporate partners in abandoning the running back. “In light of the information,” spokeswoman Lynn Shelander said in a two-sentence e-mail, “we are abstaining from any engagement with Adrian Peterson at this time.”

Minnesota-based General Mills, which last year featured Peterson on three limited-edition cereal boxes and called him “an inspiration both on and off the football field,” pointed out that their arrangement had ended five months before his indictment — and that most of the Wheaties boxes featuring Peterson were probably off store shelves by now.

At Winter Park, the Vikings headquarters, team officials scrambled to contain the fallout. The team, which knew that Peterson had appeared before a Texas grand jury during the summer, had believed the assertions of their upbeat star player and his Texas attorney, who insisted that nothing would come of the case.

Now they were dealing with widespread outrage over their Sept. 15 decision to allow Peterson to play in the next game.

Target and other retailers were pulling Peterson jerseys from their shelves. Carlson Cos., owner of the Radisson Hotel brand, informed the Vikings that it was planning to release a video in which Trudy Rautio, the company’s chief executive, would expand on the decision to suspend its corporate partnership with the team.

U.S. Bank, a leading candidate for the naming rights on the Vikings’ new stadium, was also pressuring the Vikings to reverse course. The bank’s CEO, Richard Davis, and former Carlson Cos. board chair Marilyn Carlson Nelson had headed a group that successfully convinced the NFL in May to hold the 2018 Super Bowl in Minnesota.

Now top Vikings executives huddled again, holding a nine-hour conference call with Peterson’s agent, the NFL Players Association and other parties, running late into the evening. The decision to bench Peterson appeared on the Vikings website early the next day — at 12:47 a.m., with Wilf insisting that the news be announced as quickly as possible.

Adrian Peterson will turn 30 next year, an age when many NFL running backs begin to slow down. With his case still pending, it’s unclear whether he will ever take the field in a Vikings uniform again. Even before his indictment, the Vikings’ fickle fans had begun to move on to the next rising star, quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, whose jersey sales were surpassing Peterson’s by midsummer.

Peterson’s mother, Bonita Jackson, has come to his defense, noting that she and his father used corporal punishment on their children. But in an interview with the Houston Chronicle, she captured the complexity of his case: “My son is not a perfect man, by no means, but in the end I’m proud to be his mom.’’

Yet sports marketing professionals say his career might not be over.

The alleged abuse “does pretty much wipe out everything he’s done off the field,” said Larry Chiagouris, a marketing professor at New York’s Pace University. But a comeback is not out of the question, Chiagouris said, if Peterson were to admit he was wrong in the way he punished his son, pay his dues and get back to work.

“There will be a team next year that needs a running back,” he said.
 

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Behind Peterson's perfect image
What perfect image? How many "baby mommas" does he have out there, three or four?

He compared playing in the NFL to "slavery."

What part of the country thinks his image is "perfect?"
 

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The Zone now: "He's despicable and should be banned from the league!"

The Zone once he signs here next year: "Everyone deserves a chance. He's one of the greatest running backs to ever play."

Dbair now and in the future: "Yes."
 
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