4 round cowboys mock

[dbair1967]

why is decastro the end all be all for OGs in this class??
why cant we just draft a guard in rd 2 and have it work out? i dont understand this thought process that if we dont get decastro, romo will die

I dont think that at all, but if he's available at 14 he's as close to a sure thing as there is in this draft IMO. He's a likely multiple probowler.

But he definitely isnt the only player we can draft and help the team. I do like Cordy Glenn alot. I like Konz and Zietler. I have never seen Silatulo play, but he sure sounds like he has alot of similarities to that small school guy we drafted in 1994 (almost at the same position too, 46 for Allen vs 45 this yr)

There's definitely multiple ways we can improve our football team this yr via the draft.

 

[Theebs]

I can't sign off on this w/ Barron as our prize for going 8-8. Hes not blocking jpp and he's not going after eli in the 4th Q in December

I am kind of down with this way of thinking also.

 

[Cr122]

Why is Barron, Glory?

All I'm saying is if DeCastro and Barron are still available at 14, you take DeCastro.

I also like Fletcher before Barron as well.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Why is Barron, Glory?

All I'm saying is if DeCastro and Barron are still available at 14, you take DeCastro.

I also like Fletcher before Barron as well.

first and foremost, barron is a game changer..an elite prospect..none of which decastro can claim..

second, not only is barron WORTH the 14th pick, but the rest of the safety class sucks..the rest of the guard class is very strong...

im taking Cox, Barron, or somebody else..then a guard in rd 2..you have to play to the strength of the draft

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

clearly im the most valuable member on this board: here is mark barrons profile over the huddle report (pay site)

STRENGTHS
Mark has the athletic talent to play either safety position in any style of defense. He has the speed, quickness and instincts to be used as a single free safety or as an in-the-box strong safety. He has the cover skills and strength to be used to cover TE's and RB's out of the backfield. Mark is used by his college team all over the field and is the leader and coach on the field of the defensive backs. He makes sure everyone is in the right position in the entire defensive backfield before the ball is snapped. The DB's and LB's all look to him to make changes on the fly just before the snap of the ball. Mark is used as an in-the-box safety when the defense pulls its MLB up to the line as a DE in a 4- down front to rush the passer. He can cover slot receivers one-on-one. In a zone coverage scheme, you better have an accurate QB or Mark will make the big hit and dislodge the ball. As a single free safety, if the QB doesn't look him off, he will intercept the ball. Mark is the type of player who is always around the ball making a play or a tackle. He is an excellent open field tackler. Mark is smart, does not get fooled by play action, has the bulk to play up in the box, the athletic talent to flip his hips and cover, is an excellent tackler and is a leader and a coach on the field. He is not just a safety!

CONCERNS
He can be sloppy sometimes when he tackles and he did have an off field situation, but I do not believe anything Mark did off the field has any bearing on his character. You really have to nit pick to find anything drastically wrong with this kid's game.

BOTTOM LINE
Mark has the habit on third and long plays when he is coming from his two deep zone position, of skipping up to the line to make a tackle. He does this so that at the last minute he is still in position to flip his hips and cover. It's unique and effective and gets him to the runner quicker, when his instincts suggest to him that his opponent is going to run the ball instead of trying a deep pass. Mark has Troy Polamalu instincts against the run but is a better cover safety. He leads by communicating and is the emotional strength of his team. Most of the time good safeties can be found later in the draft, but Mark is more than a good safety and the exception to the rule. I consider him a top fifteen pick and if a team thought they needed a leader for their defense and wanted to draft Mark someplace in the top ten, I would find it hard to argue with them. That's how much I think of Mark (Skippy) Barron. I know he won't like that nickname, but believe me, I mean it as a compliment.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

here is decastros...they dont even consider decastro a first rounder

David is a quick footed, pulling right guard with good lower body strength. He is a smart player and shows great mental stamina. He is a technician and does everything to the best of his ability on every play. He is quick into his man on running plays and uses solid leverage to defeat his opponent. His team likes to run behind David because he is able to turn his man and finish his blocking assignment with consistency. He is a very good pulling guard for a short pull offensive system. He has nice size and overall strength, but the upside of his game is his foot quickness and football intelligence. He shows leadership skills through his play on the field. Adding a player like David to your team in the draft is what the draft is all about. He is a plug in right guard that should be starting on your team the day after you draft him and for the next ten years.

CONCERNS
David lacks the lateral agility to be a left guard and I have no information that he has ever played center. I like my interior linemen to be able to play multiple positions if I'm going to rate them as first round talent. Right now, David is a pure right guard with good run blocking skills and average pass blocking skills -- overall, a quality player.

BOTTOM LINE
With all the injuries offensive lineman have this year because of the spread offense, the value of any position on the offensive line has gone up in recent years. David should be as good as Chris Snee (RG NY Giants), which is pretty good. I can see David sneaking into the first round for a playoff team looking for good offensive linemen like the Steelers or Seattle, but because David is a pick that will not excite the fans into paying right away for season tickets, it will be hard to select him over a flashier pick such as a WR, RB, LT, RT, DE, LB, CB or QB late in the first round. Of course that will not impact David's ability to play for the team that drafts him. If David could play the left guard position or had proven play at center, you are definitely looking at a first round selection. However, you should be able to find a good right guard standing in line at your local Walmart! I like David very much -- I just don't consider right guard a priority position. That's just me. That doesn't mean I would not draft David; it means I would draft him at the value my team needs a right guard. David is the type of player that, because of his position, could be drafted in any round in this draft, so look for Rob's board to see the likelihood of what round that will be this year. I could see the Steelers looking hard at David in the first round and I'm sure as soon as the second round starts, if David is on the board some teams might even trade up to draft him.

 

[Cr122]

first and foremost, barron is a game changer..an elite prospect..none of which decastro can claim..

second, not only is barron WORTH the 14th pick, but the rest of the safety class sucks..the rest of the guard class is very strong...

im taking Cox, Barron, or somebody else..then a guard in rd 2..you have to play to the strength of the draft

We'll that's funny, because Fletcher is my first choice, then DeCastro.

I like Barron just not as much as Fletcher, DeCastro. If either one of them are available you pull the trigger.

Now, will I be pissed if we draft Barron over Fletcher or DeCastro, yeah, but they damn well better get it right in the second and third rounds.

We need to address OL and DL early in the draft and often.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

We'll that's funny, because Fletcher is my first choice, then DeCastro.

I like Barron just not as much as Fletcher, DeCastro. If either one of them are available you pull the trigger.

Now, will I be pissed if we draft Barron over Fletcher or DeCastro, yeah, but they better damn get it right in the second and third rounds.

We need to address OL and DL early in the draft and often.

i have no issues addressing the OL..i would prefer to do it in round 2..if im doing it in rd 1..it better be via a trade down..move down and take glenn or konz and pick up more picks..hell, move down and you still may be able to get decastro

 

[Cr122]

i have no issues addressing the OL..i would prefer to do it in round 2..if im doing it in rd 1..it better be via a trade down..move down and take glenn or konz and pick up more picks..hell, move down and you still may be able to get decastro

I think there's a good possibility DeCastro is gone before 14.

Listen If we did draft Barron I'm not going to be that upset. I just feel there's other blue chip players in the draft who are available at 14.

This safety class has question marks written all over them. I think we can survive another year with what we got and address the position next year. I will tell you this though, I will go ballistic if we draft a corner at 14.

 

[dbair1967]

This safety class has question marks written all over them. I think we can survive another year with what we got and address the position next year.

Just because a particular position is "weak" overall, doesnt mean drafting a guy early, especially if that guy IS a quality prospect isnt a good move.

Barron is head and shoulders above all the other safety prospects in this draft. He's head and shoulders better than any safety on our team right now, and safety is, and has been a problem area for several seasons.

If the team has a high grade on Barron, there's nothing wrong with taking him with our first pick.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So instead waste it on a safety who might not even play half as many games in a career than a prospect who will.

Got it.

wut?

And for your insolence, you're off the Cox bandwagon that I started.

Cox fans:

me
midswat
dbair
cr122

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I dont think that at all, but if he's available at 14 he's as close to a sure thing as there is in this draft IMO. He's a likely multiple probowler.
But he definitely isnt the only player we can draft and help the team. I do like Cordy Glenn alot. I like Konz and Zietler. I have never seen Silatulo play, but he sure sounds like he has alot of similarities to that small school guy we drafted in 1994 (almost at the same position too, 46 for Allen vs 45 this yr)

There's definitely multiple ways we can improve our football team this yr via the draft.

As in 2?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think there's a good possibility DeCastro is gone before 14.

Listen If we did draft Barron I'm not going to be that upset. I just feel there's other blue chip players in the draft who are available at 14.

This safety class has question marks written all over them. I think we can survive another year with what we got and address the position next year. I will tell you this though, I will go ballistic if we draft a corner at 14.

Cordy Glenn goes before DeCastro.

 

[overused]

wut?

And for your insolence, you're off the Cox bandwagon that I started.

Cox fans:

me
midswat
dbair
cr122

SAY WUT

I STARTED THE COX THING WAY BACK IN OCT


I STATED HE WOULD BE A FIRST ROUNDER COME APIRL

 

[overused]

here is decastros...they dont even consider decastro a first rounder

David is a quick footed, pulling right guard with good lower body strength. He is a smart player and shows great mental stamina. He is a technician and does everything to the best of his ability on every play. He is quick into his man on running plays and uses solid leverage to defeat his opponent. His team likes to run behind David because he is able to turn his man and finish his blocking assignment with consistency. He is a very good pulling guard for a short pull offensive system. He has nice size and overall strength, but the upside of his game is his foot quickness and football intelligence. He shows leadership skills through his play on the field. Adding a player like David to your team in the draft is what the draft is all about. He is a plug in right guard that should be starting on your team the day after you draft him and for the next ten years.

CONCERNS
David lacks the lateral agility to be a left guard and I have no information that he has ever played center. I like my interior linemen to be able to play multiple positions if I'm going to rate them as first round talent. Right now, David is a pure right guard with good run blocking skills and average pass blocking skills -- overall, a quality player.

BOTTOM LINE
With all the injuries offensive lineman have this year because of the spread offense, the value of any position on the offensive line has gone up in recent years. David should be as good as Chris Snee (RG NY Giants), which is pretty good. I can see David sneaking into the first round for a playoff team looking for good offensive linemen like the Steelers or Seattle, but because David is a pick that will not excite the fans into paying right away for season tickets, it will be hard to select him over a flashier pick such as a WR, RB, LT, RT, DE, LB, CB or QB late in the first round. Of course that will not impact David's ability to play for the team that drafts him. If David could play the left guard position or had proven play at center, you are definitely looking at a first round selection. However, you should be able to find a good right guard standing in line at your local Walmart! I like David very much -- I just don't consider right guard a priority position. That's just me. That doesn't mean I would not draft David; it means I would draft him at the value my team needs a right guard. David is the type of player that, because of his position, could be drafted in any round in this draft, so look for Rob's board to see the likelihood of what round that will be this year. I could see the Steelers looking hard at David in the first round and I'm sure as soon as the second round starts, if David is on the board some teams might even trade up to draft him.

Gil Brandt

David DeCastro, OG, Stanford (14)
DeCastro is the prototypical lineman at 6-5 and 316 pounds.
He did 34 reps on the bench press.

He can pull, lead and is also good in pass protection. DeCastro's similar to Steve Hutchinson, who has made more Pro Bowls than anyone else in his 2001 draft class

 

[Rock Slamdance]

Differing opinions on prospects from multiple sources! Who to believe!!!!????

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

cox and silatolu or barron and zeitler >>>>>>>>>>>> decastro and anyone you name in rd 2

Nope. DeCastro and Branch trumps whatever you come up with.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I think there's a good possibility DeCastro is gone before 14.

Listen If we did draft Barron I'm not going to be that upset. I just feel there's other blue chip players in the draft who are available at 14.

This safety class has question marks written all over them. I think we can survive another year with what we got and address the position next year. I will tell you this though, I will go ballistic if we draft a corner at 14.

If that's the case, then Cox also will likely be gone Then you get Cordy Glenn. You get Glenn is DeCastro is gone.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Nope. DeCastro and Branch trumps whatever you come up with.

Andre Brand is also a late 1st round pick..he's not lasting til 45

 

[Cr122]

Just because a particular position is "weak" overall, doesnt mean drafting a guy early, especially if that guy IS a quality prospect isnt a good move.

Barron is head and shoulders above all the other safety prospects in this draft. He's head and shoulders better than any safety on our team right now, and safety is, and has been a problem area for several seasons.

If the team has a high grade on Barron, there's nothing wrong with taking him with our first pick.

I'm still on the fence about Barron. Like I've said in an earlier post I wouldn't be too upset if we drafted him.