2020 NFL Week 7: Dallas Cowboys at Washington Football Team

[MrB]

Team has obviously quit, but appears the staff and HC are just as guilty. I don't recall seeing one example of a coach getting mad over the constant fuckups and piss poor effort and play.

I said a week ago, this team and season are an abortion. Everything about it, entire franchise is a fucking joke.

The funny thing is that Dalton was yelling and cussing out the OL right before the drive where he got knocked out.


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[icup]

I understand the need for more picks. But I honestly prefer to take the more talented player. Give me the blue chip guy. Even if it’s not a Chase Young type I’d rather have the guy that’s going in the top 5. Just looking at the mock drafts there is an OT from Oregon. Would you like to have Tyron Smith’s replacement for the next 10 years? There is a LB from Penn St being projected that high. Depending on how you feel about the current LB’s in the team that position could be a need. Then there is a CB from Bama. If QB is off the table for the Cowboys in the draft (I don’t see why it would be honestly) what helps the Cowboys is that there are 3 QB’s being projected to go top 5. That pushes the other elite players to us.


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i love the BPA argument but the whole defense needs an overhaul. theyve been bad for years now and have been carrying forward mostly the same core group of oft-injured, dumbass, and talent-less players

the defense is not 1 or 2 pieces away...hell they are not even competitive. and across the board there is no attitude either.. just a bunch of prima donna pussies. not a single dog except maybe woods (the fat one, not the safety)

as far as getting tyron's replacement...that has to be on the radar somewhere, but the team proved they can score points with dak...lots of points. and the mid round guys have been decent so far...biadasz looks like a keeper, and finally mcgovern is in there and at least doing a little better than the UDFA guys.

 

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[MrB]

I hear you Nick. The more I look at this team the more I think a few things. It needs a complete overhaul. We've seen it done with teams like Seattle, San Fran, New Orleans, Eagles, Baltimore off the top of my head. These teams were in the tank but were rebuilt relatively quickly and became competitive. It's the way of today's NFL. I just don't see that with this organization. I just don't. There's no vision. I was hoping MM would bring some of that but the more I see this team play, the more questions I have about the HC.The D is not my issue. But the O should be better, even with a back-up. The OL play is atrocious but should be better when you have an offensive minded HC that should come up with a scheme to help your tackles. But Moore being kept on to call plays in a non-MM offense should have been a red flag for me but I overlooked it because I was glad we got a career HC. Most HC's would have taken over play calling duties. I don't think Moore has the experience to devise a game plan and keep an offensive flow. Every time I watch other teams like the Cards and Seattle last night, I see offenses that are designed to attack and play to their strengths. They have speed on both sides of the ball. With us, I see a lumbering D. I see a KR guy in Pollard that is just not fast enough to scare anyone and take it to the house. We're a complete cluster fuck.

I don't know if Lawrence can fix this team. I don't know if he's the alpha male to take control of this team and lead it. I know Dak is the Alpha male but he's missing the elite QB skills, IMO. I could be wrong. This offense is a mess without Dak. But I'm still not sold that he's elite and can lead this team to the SB. I think Justin Fields is like Dak on steroids and has a better arm and is faster than Dak. Seems very accurate as well. It wouldn't surprise me if Fields goes higher than Lawrence.

I think this team needs to be gutted. It needs to be purged of the elitist attitude that seems to be prevalent with players in Dallas. Parcells righted that ship and was the center piece by sheer will alone. Players knew Jerry was the boss but they also knew that Parcells didn't give a fuck and he was the guy they needed to please on the field. I have my doubts if MM is that guy. I thought he was because he was a career coach but I'm starting to wonder if he didn't sell his soul to Jerry. I mean, who the fuck is Kellen Moore to be leading the offense when I've spent my whole career as an offensive guy? Nepotism is ugly in a hierarchy of alpha males in a gladiator sport. But somewhere Jerry doesn't want to lose the next "thing"....the next Sean Payton. Jerry thought that Garrett was "it" and now maybe he thinks that "Moore" is "it" but completely disregards the path Payton took to get where he's at.

There is complete dysfunction in Dallas. And MM is losing me, just like Garrett lost me when I saw the red flags early on. I was a Garrett supporter initially and didn't need any more than his first full season as HC to see he wasn't "it." I'm starting to get that same feeling with MM.

Ohio St QB’s really scare me. Fields is extremely talented though. I would be surprised if he went before Lawrence though. This kid has had every aspect of his game picked apart for the last 2 years and every “expert” says he’s the guy. That’s doesn’t mean he can’t fail but with that hype I’d be surprised if another QB goes ahead of him. Keep and eye on Trey Lance too from North Dakota St.

I do agree that the Cowboys should be looking to move on from some of the elitist players on this team. I would start with Jaylon Smith. I suspect he was the one that was talking to Jane Slater. The trade deadline is coming up on Nov 3. If I were in charge I’d be looking to trade Cooper, Jaylon, Aldon Smith, LVE, and Zack Martin. I think Zeke and DLaw would be harder to trade but I would listed to any offers for them too.


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[Number1]

McCarthy and this entire staff probably has to go after this season, along with some really lousy attitude players that clearly have no spine or desire to succeed.

Nolan is unlikely to survive this. And there's a real problem on defense with attitude, no ferocity, none.

 

[MrB]

GMF is destroying the Cowboys right now. I don’t remember the media going in on the team like this before. Not even when we were fielding Weeden/Cassel in the 4-12 season.

The funny thing is I don’t even think we have hit rock bottom yet. This shit show is going to get a whole lot worse before it can get better.

Here is something I’m wondering. For the last 10+ years we’ve been stuck in this 8-8 revolving door. The Jones have seen that as “we’re right on the cusp”. Well now Mr. 8-8 (Red) is gone and we are seeing the true effects of the Jones’ ownership/management style. Listening to the Jones’ they still see no issue with the coaching staff or the players effort. So if they are happy with their decisions on the staff how many years of this do you think it will take for the Jones’ to finally realize they are the problem? Or do you think we could continue to suck this bad and they still won’t make any changes?


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[MrB]

I can’t wait to see what the Steelers do to us in 2 weeks

50 points anyone?

Don’t we play Baltimore too? Jackson might get 500 yards on the ground by himself.


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[yimyammer]

The funny thing is that Dalton was yelling and cussing out the OL right before the drive where he got knocked out.


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they showed him!

 

[Scot]

Here is something I’m wondering. For the last 10+ years we’ve been stuck in this 8-8 revolving door. The Jones have seen that as “we’re right on the cusp”. Well now Mr. 8-8 (Red) is gone and we are seeing the true effects of the Jones’ ownership/management style. Listening to the Jones’ they still see no issue with the coaching staff or the players effort. So if they are happy with their decisions on the staff how many years of this do you think it will take for the Jones’ to finally realize they are the problem? Or do you think we could continue to suck this bad and they still won’t make any changes?


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The Jones’ will make changes

The changes just won’t involve the Jones’

 

[Scot]

I just heard a stat that the measly little 3 points we scored vs Washington was the fewest points we have EVER scored against them in the history of this franchise!

Every game we set new records with how bad we are

I can’t see there not being some form of sacrificial lamb to appease the gods at the bye week and I suspect and hope that it will be Nolan.

 

[yimyammer]

how many years of this do you think it will take for the Jones’ to finally realize they are the problem?

Put it in 3 inch headlines:

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

They'll never realize (or snap out of denial and admit) they're the problem because that would mean they'd have to stop playing with their toy and give up the limelight which jeri will NEVER do because he's addicted to it and has deluded himself into believing he was responsible for the 3 Super Bowls plus he was so much FU money he can tell the fans to EAD until the day he is 6 feet under

the franchise is dead and never coming back as long as jones and spawn own the team. I've spent the last 25 years trying to come up with every kind of twisted logic I could muster to find a way they can succeed and I believe there is simply no overcoming the buffoonery of ownership (outside of a historic run of injuries league wide while the Cowboys experiencing none so they can basically beat the leagues practice squads on the way to another Super Bowl)

 

[icup]

"these things take time"

its been 6 weeks and the defense is getting worse, not better

 

[icup]

stevie is correct here, the team is evolving from dogshit to horseshit

 

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everybody develops after leaving DAL

 

[Scot]

I honestly hope we do not win another game this season.

Even the team without a fucking name shit all over us. We deserve to end the season 2-14.

And while I’m at it, no team from our division should go to the playoffs unless the are at least 8-8. If you can’t manage as many wins as you have losses you do not deserve to make the playoffs even if you sweep your division. I’ll go one step further. No team should make the playoffs without a winning record. Period!

 

[Dodger12]

Ohio St QB’s really scare me. Fields is extremely talented though. I would be surprised if he went before Lawrence though. This kid has had every aspect of his game picked apart for the last 2 years and every “expert” says he’s the guy. That’s doesn’t mean he can’t fail but with that hype I’d be surprised if another QB goes ahead of him. Keep and eye on Trey Lance too from North Dakota St.

I do agree that the Cowboys should be looking to move on from some of the elitist players on this team. I would start with Jaylon Smith. I suspect he was the one that was talking to Jane Slater. The trade deadline is coming up on Nov 3. If I were in charge I’d be looking to trade Cooper, Jaylon, Aldon Smith, LVE, and Zack Martin. I think Zeke and DLaw would be harder to trade but I would listed to any offers for them too.


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Agreed buddy but I don't think anyone is going to trade for any of these scrubs. Jaylon Smith should be out of the league and we paid him like a star. It'll be interesting to see what we do at QB. I hated to see Dak's season end over an injury. Anything can happen. It wouldn't surprise me if he's signed long term or franchised again.

I do know that going through a season like this is painful for a franchise. When you have the chance to grab the top QB, I believe you take it but I'm torn that this crew can develop him. I'm starting to lose faith in this staff.....

 

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Trade 'em or Dump 'em: Identifying Cowboys who could, should go​

K.D. Drummond
October 26, 2020 1:09 pm

This article is not going to condone blowing up the 2020 Dallas Cowboys. Repeat, this article is not going to condone blowing up the 2020 Dallas Cowboys. I am a believer that the primary conversations that have been had all season still hold true. This staff, as five others around the league were, was handcuffed by the coronavirus pandemic. This roster, has been besieged by a rash of injuries. There are numerous other things wrong with the mixture of what is happening, but I hold these truths to be self-evident. While the defensive coaching certainly carries a ton of blame, the offensive staff does have excuses.

My personal opinion is somewhat irrelevant in this exercise. Providing the ground work for what the Cowboys could do with their roster is something I want to provide to the conversation. If someone reading this wants to set dynamite to the roster, I want to help them understand what each departing piece would mean. Therefore, here’s a collection of thoughts on what moving away from many members of the organization would look like in terms of compensation and damage (or relief) to the salary cap.

As a reminder, we do not know what the cap will look like in 2021. Originally projected to increase to $210 million to $215 million, it will go in the opposite direction. The league agreed to set a floor of $175 million, with any other COVID-19 revenue adjustments to be felt in 2022 or beyond. Yeah, things are that bad. So we’ll operate with the worst in mind, that 2021 will be at $175 million and with concern for not much growth to it in 2022. That matters when dealing with contracts that (for all 32 NFL teams) were agreed to with the idea that the cap was going to keep rising by $10 million or more every year, and the new TV deals coming in 2022 was going to have a ballooning of the cap similar to what the NBA saw a half decade ago.

The trade deadline is November 3.

QB Dak Prescott​

The Cowboys are going to have to tag Prescott again in 2021. He is past the infection concern stage reportedly, but likely won’t be ready to show off his recovery before the league year starts.

Here’s the big question to ponder for the front office that has publicly stated concern over having a QB take up too much cap space (it’s a ridiculous concept but they said it, not us). If the Cowboys have a Top 8 pick and Prescott is under a tag and not a long-term agreement, does the team consider trading him for a bounty before the draft?

Again, not condoning in the least, just laying out the terrain.

RB Ezekiel Elliott​

Elliott has $10.8 million in prorated signing bonus money allocated on the 2022 through 2024 caps. If traded, that accelerates onto the 2021 cap, which already will have $4.1 million of SB allocation on it.

The $10.8M cancels out the base salary of $9.6M that would go away if he was jettisoned, leaving more money on the books than if he was kept, but freeing up the future years.

I do not condone trading Elliott, but giving those who do the financial information necessary to speak intelligently on the situation.

As far as value for such a move, I imagine Dallas could get a second-round pick for Elliott, which is below where I believe his value to the organization is.

DE Aldon Smith​

It might be a surprise, but Aldon Smith is probably the Cowboys most attractive trade asset. He’s ridiculously cheap, productive and a rental. The biggest detriment to his value is the reason he’s been out the league for several years and the fact teams haven’t had the opportunity to do their due diligence the way Dallas had.

Seattle seems like the perfect place for him, and they are a team that has no issue trading draft assets.

Aldon is likely going to bring in a 5th-round comp pick in 2022 as a departing player. So why not flip him now for a 5th rounder in 2021?

LB Jaylon Smith​

Because Smith was signed to an extension with two years of team control still remaining, he still has five years left on his salary.

His cap number for the first two years, 2019 and 2020 only went up by $3.5 million total with the allocation of the $13 million in bonuses. It’s the commitment that’s the issue.

Going into 2021, Smith has $9.4 million of bonus money left to be allocated, but his 2021 base salary is “just” $7.6 million. There’d be a net savings of $400,000 if he was gone prior to 2021, based on how much he was projected to cost. Again, that’s money taken up for someone not on the team.

Trading him would result in $306,000 2020 savings for each week remaining in the season.

DT Dontari Poe​

If the Cowboys can get anything for Poe, they should. His snap count is dwindling on the heels of his contributions. Trading Poe would save just over $1.5 million on this year’s cap and get rid of his $3.5 million 2021 base salary + roster bonuses.

If Dallas could get a conditions 6th/7th for Poe they should take it, just for the salary relief.

The issue, whether folks want to admit it or not, is the fact that the first player in team history to kneel in silent protest during the anthem would be getting traded from a really bad team with an owner who previously had threatened to fire any player who knelt. The optics would be horrendous for Jerry Jones.

WR Amari Cooper​

Cooper is the one big-money player whom the team is set up to move on from, but in the first year of a new deal that still is outrageous.

Cooper’s low signing bonus of just $10 million is broken over five years, so trading him now would accelerate $6 million of cap hits from 2022 through 2024 onto the 2021 cap. With a base salary of $20 million and cap hit of $22 million, the net savings on the 2021 cap would be $14 million if they were to trade Cooper this year or in the offseason.

Cooper sits fifth in the league in receiving yards and has proven he is immune to bad QB play over his career, cemented as being the only WR with a catch in Sunday’s game.

Cooper could net a first-round pick. I don’t believe the team should damage their one remaining strength, but it’s far from the worst idea among the options.

LB Sean Lee​

This is my favorite scenario, because it helps both parties. Trading Lee to a contender is the right thing to do for the guy who has had bad luck in Dallas when it comes to injuries.

Lee will cost just over $100,000 for every game he plays as a bonus, on top of his 2020 base salary of $2 million he’s getting paid. That’s $217,000 or so in weekly savings if they moved him. Lee thought about retirement in the offseason, this is likely it.

Send him away for a conditional pick. If he makes it through the season, he’s a fifth. If he plays some, he’s a sixth. If he doesn’t play, no compensation, you just got him off your books.

Send him somewhere he can help if and when he gets healthy.

WR Michael Gallup​

Gallup is cheap, still with another year remaining on his rookie contract. He’s shown capable of being a bona fide 1A, though a club will likely not look at him as an alpha based on no evidence of thriving without a player like Cooper next to him. No fault of his own, but that would cause trepidation.

It leads me to believe a team would hesitate to offer a second-round pick, which at that point, why would Dallas take back a third rounder (Gallup’s original draft slot) just to turn around and use it to try and get another Gallup?

DE DeMarcus Lawrence​

Lawrence has come on in the last three weeks as he appears to be getting over his knee ailments. Still, fans want blood and without multiple sack games they will not be satiated.

Lawrence is the club’s best defender, but again, I’m here to provide the facts.

Dallas restructured Lawrence’s deal this offseason. Starting in 2021, he has $27 million of bonus money allocated over the next three seasons. His base salary in 2021 is just $17 million.

No, Dallas will not be trading Lawrence though he would probably be worth a 1st-round pick if they did. Him locked up for three years for an acquiring club with just his 2021 salary guaranteed makes him worth much more than what Yannick Ngakoue got for the Vikings.

CB Chidobe Awuzie​

If you are of the belief this team is not likely to make the playoffs, one has to think of whether or not the coaching staff believes Awuzie could be in their long-term future.

If they are considering it, then keep him, let him return and make up your mind with evidence. If they are ready to part ways, trade him and give another club a chance to evaluate him in house for an extension.

Awuzie is likely worth a 2022 firth or sixth-round comp as a departing free agent. Take either in 2021 in a trade.

CB Jourdan Lewis​

By this point the staff knows whether or not they intend to try and bring Lewis back in 2021 as another CB free agent.

Same parameters as Awuzie, fifth or sixth-round compensation.

FS Xavier Woods​

Woods is the hardest one to trade, because he’s seemed on the precipice of greatness but has regressed under this current staff. He feels like the guy everyone should expect to ball out if he leaves Dallas and he also is a FA in 2021.

Another guy that could net a fifth or sixth-rounder if giving another team the chance to see him in person.

DE Everson Griffen​

According to Todd Archer at ESPN, the club tried to trade Griffen already and has no takers.

He has $6 million in salary split among base and game-day bonuses, so there’s substantial savings if they move on from him. He’s starting to contribute a bit more, but it has not been good thus far in Dallas.

They might take a conditional sixth or seventh at this point.