2019 Draft thread

[theoneandonly]

 

[dbair1967]

Looks like this thread will be getting attention a lot earlier than I had hoped.

 

[Scot]

I never really jump in on these draft threads

Especially at this time of year

But.....

What star QB’s should we be watching to use our #5 overall pick on in the next draft?

 

[dbair1967]

I never really jump in on these draft threads

Especially at this time of year

But.....

What star QB’s should we be watching to use our #5 overall pick on in the next draft?

Drew Lock, Ryan Finley, Justin Herbert, Jarrett Stidham

 

[Scot]

Drew Lock, Ryan Finley, Justin Herbert, Jarrett Stidham

Thx for the heads up!

 

[theoneandonly]

The Big Board
1. Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State

2. Ed Oliver, DL, Houston

3. Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan

4. Jonah Williams, OL, Alabama

5. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU

6. A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss

7. Devin White, LB, LSU

8. David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin

9. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss

10. Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama

11. Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson

12. Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn

13. Zach Allen, EDGE, Boston College

14. Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn

15. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon

16. Dre'Mont Jones, DL, Ohio State

17. N'Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State

18. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama

19. Kendall Sheffield, CB, Ohio State

20. Jeffery Simmons, DL, Mississippi State

21. Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia

22. Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State

23. Damien Harris, RB, Alabama

24. Jamal Peters, CB, Mississippi State

25. Noah Fant, TE, Iowa

26. Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State

27. Will Grier, QB, West Virginia

28. Nate Stanley, QB, Iowa

29. Rodney Anderson, RB, Oklahoma

30. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina

31. Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma

32. Isaiah Buggs, DL, Alabama

Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: Can Heisman Contender Will Grier Be an NFL QB? | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights

 

[icup]

 

[bbgun]

We're #4! We're #4!

 

[theoneandonly]

Good stuff here. 2019 NFL Draft Big Board: Trio from Ole Miss eager to prove themselves vs 'Bama - nfldraftscout.com

 

[theoneandonly]

The Scout's Report
— How good do scouts think Houston's Ed Oliver is? One director of scouting told me Oliver has the highest grade he's ever given a player. Higher than Mack, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett or Jadeveon Clowney.

Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: Best 2019 Draft Prospect You've Never Heard of | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights

 

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[icup]

 

[icup]

1. Darius Leonard, LB Indianapolis Colts
PFF Overall Grade: 91.0

After an outstanding performance in Week 2 – which landed Leonard on our Team of the Week – the rookie linebacker out of South Carolina State vaults his way all the way to the top of our list. The second-round pick ranks second among all linebackers in terms of overall grade for the season, and he’s one of just three linebackers (joining Darron Lee and Deion Jones) who currently owns an elite coverage grade (over 90.0). Leonard recorded six stops against Washington in Week 2 to go with a pass breakup and a forced fumble.



2. Derwin James, S Los Angeles Chargers cry
PFF Overall Grade: 82.8

James currently ranks eighth among all safeties in terms of overall grade, and he’s posted grades of at least 70.0 in both NFL games he’s played in thus far. James has been a swiss-army knife for the Chargers’ defense, playing 53 snaps at free safety, 37 at box safety, 13 at slot corner and 11 on the defensive line. He’s totaled six pressures so far as a pass-rusher – three more than any other safety. He is also one of just 22 safeties to have recorded at least four stops and one of just 12 safeties to record multiple pass breakups.



3. Genard Avery, Edge Cleveland Browns
PFF Overall Grade: 83.0

Avery followed up an elite performance in Week 1 with a bit of a disappointing showing in Week 2. Despite his Week 2 woes, though, the rookie edge defender still ranks eighth among his positional peers in terms of overall grade and owns grades of at least 73.0 in the following categories: run defense, tackling and pass-rushing. The fifth-round pick tallied another run stop in Week 2, and his 21.4 run-stop percentage leads all edge defenders who’ve played at least 10 run-defense snaps through the first two weeks of the season.



4. Will Hernandez, G New York Giants
PFF Overall Grade: 74.9

Hernandez ranks eighth among all guards in terms of overall grade this season, and his 76.3 run-block grade after two weeks ranks third. Our highest-graded guard in college football back in 2016, Hernandez thrived as a run blocker back at UTEP – that skill set was fully on display in Week 2 against the Dallas Cowboys, earning him the second-best run-block grade by a guard at 83.2.



5. Bradley Chubb, Edge Denver Broncos
PFF Overall Grade: 76.6

Chubb is just one of two edge defenders through two weeks of the season (Trey Flowers being the other) to have a grade of at least 75.0 as both a pass-rusher and in run defense. Out of 95 edge defenders who have rushed the quarterback at least 25 times this season, Chubb ranks eighth with a 16.3 pressure percentage; his 11.4 run-stop percentage ranks seventh among the 57 edge defenders who’ve seen at least 25 snaps in run defense.



6. Ja’Whaun Bentley, LB New England Patriots
PFF Overall Grade: 80.7

Bentley ranks 10th among linebackers in terms of overall grade, and he’s one of just three linebackers (along with Zach Brown and Bobby Wagner) who rank within the top-10 in both run-defense and coverage grades. The fifth-round pick currently ranks 13th among all linebackers who’ve seen at least 25 snaps in run defense with an average depth of tackle of just 1.67 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. He’s also only been targeted twice in coverage, surrendering just one catch for five yards.



7. Da’Shawn Hand, DI Detroit Lions
PFF Overall Grade: 83.6

The latest defensive interior stud to come from the defensive line factory that is the University of Alabama, Hand has graded well in both games so far this season, earning a grade of at least 78.0 in both Weeks 1 and 2. Through two weeks, Hand ranks 13th among interior defenders in terms of overall grade, and his seven run stops are tied for the most at his position.



8. Jessie Bates, S Cincinnati Bengals
PFF Overall Grade: 77.5

Bates is second among all defensive players so far this season with 166 snaps, and after Week 2, he ranks 14th among safeties in terms of overall grade. Bates has allowed three catches into his coverage for a total of just two yards this season, and he made a great read on an errant throw by Joe Flacco this past week to record his first NFL interception.



9. Jaire Alexander, CB Green Bay Packers
PFF Overall Grade: 73.7

Alexander currently owns the highest overall grade among rookie cornerbacks after the first two weeks of the season, and he ranks 25th among all NFL corners. The rookie out of Louisville has recorded three stops, tallied two pressures (including a sack) and came down with an interception that would have sealed the game for the Packers this past week had it not been overturned by a (controversial) roughing the passer penalty.



10. Sam Darnold, QB New York Jets
PFF Overall Grade: 62.4

The third-overall pick currently ranks 20th among quarterbacks in terms of overall grade, and his 61.6 passing grade slots in at 18th. Darnold hasn’t been afraid to push the ball downfield. His average depth of target of 10.4 yards ranks eighth among QBs, and he ranks seventh with 54.7 percent of his throws traveling past the sticks. However, he’s thrown just one big-time throw through two games while recording three turnover-worthy plays. The former Trojan is going to need to turn around that BTT:TWP ratio a bit if he’s going to maintain a spot on this list throughout the season.



Honorable Mentions:

Marcus Davenport, Edge New Orleans Saints

Harold Landry, Edge Tennessee Titans

Will Dissly, TE Seattle Seahawks

Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB Miami Dolphins

Saquon Barkley, HB New York Giants

Phillip Lindsay, HB Denver Broncos

Kyzir White, LB Los Angeles Chargers

Harrison Phillips, DI Buffalo Bills

Mike McGlinchey, T San Francisco 49ers

Connor Williams, G Dallas Cowboys

Denzel Ward, CB Cleveland Browns

Fred Warner, LB San Francisco 49ers

Antonio Callaway, WR Cleveland Browns

Dante Pettis, WR San Francisco 49ers

 

[dbair1967]

So according to PFF then, Hernandez must have had an all pro performance against Dallas because his rating went WAY UP after facing us.

This despite us tearing their OL as a whole a new one virtually the entire game.

 

[dbair1967]

Further proof PFF is pretty much worthless:

Hernandez ranks eighth among all guards in terms of overall grade this season, and his 76.3 run-block grade after two weeks ranks third.

The Giants have had basically one good running play in two games.

 

[icup]

well its only 74.9 overall....the grade isnt all that great to begin with

and if that makes him #8 overall then its not crazy to assume that offensive line play &talent has been dog shit across the league

 

[dbair1967]

well its only 74.9 overall....the grade isnt all that great to begin with

and if that makes him #8 overall then its not crazy to assume that offensive line play &talent has been dog shit across the league

I think it says more about their rating system in general

 

[theoneandonly]

2019 NFL Mock Draft: Browns get Baker Mayfield another receiver, Ed Oliver goes No. 1 overall - CBSSports.comInteresting the writer has them drafting at 12. Sounds in the ball park.

 

[theoneandonly]

Interesting, this is the same guy Lane Kiffin offered a scholarship to attend USC as QB when he was a 7th grader. Now projects as 1st rounder as a WR.

David Sills, WR, West Virginia. There's a lot of Jordy Nelson to Sills' game. They're both tall, deceptively athletic back-shoulder specialists who can routinely stretch defenses.

 

[theoneandonly]