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No need to watch. Games already over at the zone, victory declared. Pom pom waving at a fever pitch.
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thats hilarious considering hostiles site considers the zone to be a negative cesspool
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So wait a minute, I was one of those responsible for getting the zones "gas bag" to seek greener pastures? Good to know, I'll take life's small victories where I can get em.
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perhaps, what did you do?
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Apparently spoke the truth and didnt let em forget the last 20 years.
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Good job, my man, don't stop giving them hell.
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There are sometimes I read stuff about our team and just 
Tonight Broaddus is suggesting that Lance Dunbar may keep Alfred Morris on the bench, and that JJ Wilcox will be joining Barry Church and Byron Jones on the field in the nickel, so that they can use Jones in the slot and line up Wilcox and Church downfield.
First, how the hell can anyone believe or remotely think Dunbar is a better player than Morris, especially when he hasn't played in a game in a year and almost assuredly nowhere near as quick/fast as he was. This is two mega knee injuries now.
Second on the Wilcox thing, Broaddus suggests its because they "trust" him. WTF? Trust him to do what? Give up a couple more 50-60 yd plays because he gets lost in coverage or takes bad angles? Church downfield? WTF? Might be the slowest safety in the league and cant play the ball in the air to save his life. The Giants might not have much but they have a QB who takes tons of shots downfield against us every yr and they have what would appear to be a very high quality group of WR's and athletic receiving TE's.
Hopefully Broaddus is wrong, but if this is true its further proof of why we never escape mediocrity.
Tonight Broaddus is suggesting that Lance Dunbar may keep Alfred Morris on the bench, and that JJ Wilcox will be joining Barry Church and Byron Jones on the field in the nickel, so that they can use Jones in the slot and line up Wilcox and Church downfield.
First, how the hell can anyone believe or remotely think Dunbar is a better player than Morris, especially when he hasn't played in a game in a year and almost assuredly nowhere near as quick/fast as he was. This is two mega knee injuries now.
Second on the Wilcox thing, Broaddus suggests its because they "trust" him. WTF? Trust him to do what? Give up a couple more 50-60 yd plays because he gets lost in coverage or takes bad angles? Church downfield? WTF? Might be the slowest safety in the league and cant play the ball in the air to save his life. The Giants might not have much but they have a QB who takes tons of shots downfield against us every yr and they have what would appear to be a very high quality group of WR's and athletic receiving TE's.
Hopefully Broaddus is wrong, but if this is true its further proof of why we never escape mediocrity.
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20+ years and counting....
Jon Machota, Cowboys beat writer for SportsDayDFW.com and The Dallas Morning News, answered your questions about the team in a live chat Friday morning (10-11). Some highlights:
Besides OBJ, which offensive player on New York could hurt Dallas the most?
Sterling Shepard. The former OU standout should see a ton of single coverage. I think Shepard would be up for Offensive Rookie of the Year if it weren't for Ezekiel Elliott.
The Cowboys start the season 0-1 if ...
The defense doesn't force any turnovers. This group isn't going to shut down offenses, so they need to get takeaways like they did in 2014 when they led the NFC. They also don't win if Dak turns the ball over. Cowboys must win the turnover battle.
Which defensive unit has the most to prove vs. NYG in Week 1?
Has to be the defensive line. There are just so many unknowns there. Mayowa, McClain, Crawford and Crawford are starting. Tyrone Crawford will likely get the double-teams, so who wins their individual matchups? David Irving is someone to keep an eye on. He has a ton of potential. But can he be a difference-making pass rusher?
Besides OBJ, which offensive player on New York could hurt Dallas the most?
Sterling Shepard. The former OU standout should see a ton of single coverage. I think Shepard would be up for Offensive Rookie of the Year if it weren't for Ezekiel Elliott.
The Cowboys start the season 0-1 if ...
The defense doesn't force any turnovers. This group isn't going to shut down offenses, so they need to get takeaways like they did in 2014 when they led the NFC. They also don't win if Dak turns the ball over. Cowboys must win the turnover battle.
Which defensive unit has the most to prove vs. NYG in Week 1?
Has to be the defensive line. There are just so many unknowns there. Mayowa, McClain, Crawford and Crawford are starting. Tyrone Crawford will likely get the double-teams, so who wins their individual matchups? David Irving is someone to keep an eye on. He has a ton of potential. But can he be a difference-making pass rusher?
New York Giants backup defensive tackle Robert Thomas has been ruled out for the opener with an illness. Signed earlier this week, Thomas was unlikely to be active for Sunday's game even if he was healthy.
Casillas (ribs) and free safety Darian Thompson (shoulder) are not listed on Friday's injury report despite being limited during in practice all week.
"There's nothing telling me that I'm not playing," Casillas said.
Thompson expressed a similar level of confidence about his availability on Thursday.
"We'll have 52-of-the-53 available," McAdoo said, with Thomas being the lone player on the active roster sidelined.
McAdoo said receiver/kick returner Dwayne Harris is fine after being treated for heat exhaustion after Thursday's practice.
The NFL made a change to its injury reports this offseason, eliminating the use of the "probable" designation. Now, the only designations are "questionable," "doubtful" and "out" on the game status reports.
Questionable means it is uncertain if a player will play, doubtful means it is unlikely that a player will play and out means the player will not play. Probable meant it was a virtual certainty player will be available for normal duty. Under the old policy, Casillas and Thompson likely would have been listed as probable.
The Cowboys listed three players as out for Sunday's game: Quarterback Tony Romo (back), defensive end Charles Tapper (back) and linebacker Mark Nzeocha (Achilles). Backup offensive lineman Ronald Leary (groin) is listed as questionable.
Casillas (ribs) and free safety Darian Thompson (shoulder) are not listed on Friday's injury report despite being limited during in practice all week.
"There's nothing telling me that I'm not playing," Casillas said.
Thompson expressed a similar level of confidence about his availability on Thursday.
"We'll have 52-of-the-53 available," McAdoo said, with Thomas being the lone player on the active roster sidelined.
McAdoo said receiver/kick returner Dwayne Harris is fine after being treated for heat exhaustion after Thursday's practice.
The NFL made a change to its injury reports this offseason, eliminating the use of the "probable" designation. Now, the only designations are "questionable," "doubtful" and "out" on the game status reports.
Questionable means it is uncertain if a player will play, doubtful means it is unlikely that a player will play and out means the player will not play. Probable meant it was a virtual certainty player will be available for normal duty. Under the old policy, Casillas and Thompson likely would have been listed as probable.
The Cowboys listed three players as out for Sunday's game: Quarterback Tony Romo (back), defensive end Charles Tapper (back) and linebacker Mark Nzeocha (Achilles). Backup offensive lineman Ronald Leary (groin) is listed as questionable.
1 9/11 @ Dal 4:25 PM ET
2 9/18 vs. NO 1:00 PM ET
3 9/25 vs. Was 1:00 PM ET
4 10/3 @ Min 8:30 PM ET
5 10/9 @ GB 8:30 PM ET
6 10/16 vs. Bal 1:00 PM ET
7 10/23 @ LA 9:30 AM ET
You know, if we beat the Giants, they could conceivably be 1-6 or 2-5 heading into their bye week.
And why does the Rams game start at 930? Is that in London or something?
2 9/18 vs. NO 1:00 PM ET
3 9/25 vs. Was 1:00 PM ET
4 10/3 @ Min 8:30 PM ET
5 10/9 @ GB 8:30 PM ET
6 10/16 vs. Bal 1:00 PM ET
7 10/23 @ LA 9:30 AM ET
You know, if we beat the Giants, they could conceivably be 1-6 or 2-5 heading into their bye week.
And why does the Rams game start at 930? Is that in London or something?
Steelers rule Markus Wheaton out vs. Redskins
By Kevin Patra
Around the NFL writer
Published: Sept. 10, 2016 at 01:17 p.m.
Updated: Sept. 10, 2016 at 04:46 p.m.
The Pittsburgh Steelers will be without another offensive weapon Monday night against the Washington Redskins.
The team announced Saturday that No. 2 receiver Markus Wheaton will miss Week 1 with a shoulder injury.
Wheaton didn't participate in practice this week.
It's another blow to Ben Roethlisberger's weaponry. The Steelers were already without running back Le'Veon Bell and Martavis Bryant due to suspensions.
With Wheaton out, Sammie Coates will get more time opposite Antonio Brown with Eli Rogers playing in the slot. Darrius Heyward-Bey should also earn more snaps than originally planned.
It's a big opportunity for Coates, who flashed during offseason practices, but struggled in the preseason.
One of the most explosive offenses last season is a shell of itself to open the year, but at least still has Big Ben and AB.
Other Monday Night Football injury report notes:
1. The Redskins listed running back Matt Jones, rookie receiver Josh Doctson, defensive end Kendall Reyes, nose tackle Kedric Golston and guard Spencer Long as questionable. Jones was full-go all week and will suit up Monday. Doctson participated fully on Saturday after being limited all week. With a deep receiver corps, the Redskins could ease the rookie receiver into the lineup.
2. In addition to Wheaton, the Steelers ruled out cornerback Senquez Golson (foot), running back Roosevelt Nix (back) and center Cody Wallace (knee).
By Kevin Patra
Around the NFL writer
Published: Sept. 10, 2016 at 01:17 p.m.
Updated: Sept. 10, 2016 at 04:46 p.m.
The Pittsburgh Steelers will be without another offensive weapon Monday night against the Washington Redskins.
The team announced Saturday that No. 2 receiver Markus Wheaton will miss Week 1 with a shoulder injury.
Wheaton didn't participate in practice this week.
It's another blow to Ben Roethlisberger's weaponry. The Steelers were already without running back Le'Veon Bell and Martavis Bryant due to suspensions.
With Wheaton out, Sammie Coates will get more time opposite Antonio Brown with Eli Rogers playing in the slot. Darrius Heyward-Bey should also earn more snaps than originally planned.
It's a big opportunity for Coates, who flashed during offseason practices, but struggled in the preseason.
One of the most explosive offenses last season is a shell of itself to open the year, but at least still has Big Ben and AB.
Other Monday Night Football injury report notes:
1. The Redskins listed running back Matt Jones, rookie receiver Josh Doctson, defensive end Kendall Reyes, nose tackle Kedric Golston and guard Spencer Long as questionable. Jones was full-go all week and will suit up Monday. Doctson participated fully on Saturday after being limited all week. With a deep receiver corps, the Redskins could ease the rookie receiver into the lineup.
2. In addition to Wheaton, the Steelers ruled out cornerback Senquez Golson (foot), running back Roosevelt Nix (back) and center Cody Wallace (knee).
FRISCO, Texas – And we’re back. The Cowboys and Giants – again - are kicking off the regular season with yet another highly-anticipated matchup.
Sunday’s game at AT&T Stadium marks the debuts of rookies Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott, who should have quite a supporting cast around them with a stout offensive line and playmaking receivers such as Dez Bryant and Jason Witten.
But the Giants aren’t short of explosive weapons either, highlighted by Odell Beckham Jr., who is arguably one of the NFL’s most electrifying players.
This game will mark the Cowboys’ first season opener since 2006 without Tony Romo as their starting quarterback. On the flip side, the Giants roll in Eli Manning, who hasn’t missed a game since being named the Giants’ starter 12 years ago.
Here are the gut feelings for staff writers David Helman, Rob Phillips, Nick Eatman and Bryan Broaddus.
David Helman: I don’t know how many of our readers are familiar with the old FOX TV show “The X Files,” but one of the characters in that show had a poster in his office that said “I Want To Believe.” Heading into Dak Prescott’s NFL debut, that’s exactly how I feel – I want to believe. Prescott has been sensational at every step so far. I want to believe that he and Ezekiel Elliott can form a dynamic ground attack, and I want to believe he can consistently find Dez Bryant and Jason Witten without turning the ball over. I want to believe that the Dallas defense can follow up a solid showing in the preseason and find a way to limit a scary-looking Giants passing game. There are enough signs to be optimistic that these things are possible. But this is the NFL, and life is usually harder than that. I think Prescott will be fine, if not spectacular – but he’ll probably make a costly mistake or two. I also think Zeke will crack 100 yards in his first NFL start, but it won’t be enough. In a hotly-contested division battle, I’m going with the 13-year NFL veteran – Eli Manning – to make more plays than the rookie. I want to believe, but I just can’t bring myself to do it. The Cowboys will put up a spirited effort, but I’ve got the Giants winning – something like 28-24.
Rob Phillips: Dak Prescott’s debut is by far the biggest storyline in this fourth Cowboys-Giants opener since 2012, and my gut feeling is he plays well Sunday and reinforces the team’s confidence in him as Tony Romo’s injury replacement. From everything we’ve heard about the rookie quarterback, he has prepared himself as much as humanly possible to lead the offense against a revamped and talented Giants defense. When you’re truly prepared, you typically play relaxed and confident. Ezekiel Elliott should set the tone in the running game like he did in a dozen or so plays at Seattle, too. That will help Prescott. Defensively, the Cowboys have the corners to match up with the Giants’ versatile receivers. The biggest factor will be how much pressure the defensive line gets against Eli Manning. If he’s too comfortable in the pocket, it won’t matter how well the secondary covers. Manning’s experience is the difference to me in what could be a tightly-contested game.
Nick Eatman: This one has been a tough to read for me – and it should be. The Cowboys and Giants always play tough games, regardless how good the teams are. We should be getting used to these Week 1 matchups by now, but it’s still hard to predict what will happen, other than a tight contest down to the wire. I’m fully expecting Eli Manning to have the ball in his hands with about two minutes to play and driving down the field. I’ve been saying it all week on “Cowboys Break,” but something tells me Barry Church will have a key play/moment in this game. At first, I kept saying it will be a big moment for one of the teams, leaving it open that he could give up a big play or have a missed opportunity. But now, I’m starting to lean that his play will be a positive one. Maybe it’s Church who picks off a Manning pass in the final minutes or in this specific case, gets a pick on a game-tying two-point conversion. Other predictions include 100 yards even for Ezekiel Elliott and Geoff Swaim gets a touchdown – maybe the first one of the game. I’ve got Dallas winning a close one, 28-26.
Bryan Broaddus: The strength of this Cowboys defensive line is its tackles. Where I have my concerns is that, as good as they might be -- will this group be able to finish the job? Getting close and getting Eli Manning on the ground are two separate things, and history has shown that Manning doesn’t take sacks. My gut feeling is that front will be close throughout the game, but their inability to get Manning on the ground -- especially in obvious passing situations -- will lead to some game changing plays that will be too much to overcome. Giants take this one 24-20.
Sunday’s game at AT&T Stadium marks the debuts of rookies Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott, who should have quite a supporting cast around them with a stout offensive line and playmaking receivers such as Dez Bryant and Jason Witten.
But the Giants aren’t short of explosive weapons either, highlighted by Odell Beckham Jr., who is arguably one of the NFL’s most electrifying players.
This game will mark the Cowboys’ first season opener since 2006 without Tony Romo as their starting quarterback. On the flip side, the Giants roll in Eli Manning, who hasn’t missed a game since being named the Giants’ starter 12 years ago.
Here are the gut feelings for staff writers David Helman, Rob Phillips, Nick Eatman and Bryan Broaddus.
David Helman: I don’t know how many of our readers are familiar with the old FOX TV show “The X Files,” but one of the characters in that show had a poster in his office that said “I Want To Believe.” Heading into Dak Prescott’s NFL debut, that’s exactly how I feel – I want to believe. Prescott has been sensational at every step so far. I want to believe that he and Ezekiel Elliott can form a dynamic ground attack, and I want to believe he can consistently find Dez Bryant and Jason Witten without turning the ball over. I want to believe that the Dallas defense can follow up a solid showing in the preseason and find a way to limit a scary-looking Giants passing game. There are enough signs to be optimistic that these things are possible. But this is the NFL, and life is usually harder than that. I think Prescott will be fine, if not spectacular – but he’ll probably make a costly mistake or two. I also think Zeke will crack 100 yards in his first NFL start, but it won’t be enough. In a hotly-contested division battle, I’m going with the 13-year NFL veteran – Eli Manning – to make more plays than the rookie. I want to believe, but I just can’t bring myself to do it. The Cowboys will put up a spirited effort, but I’ve got the Giants winning – something like 28-24.
Rob Phillips: Dak Prescott’s debut is by far the biggest storyline in this fourth Cowboys-Giants opener since 2012, and my gut feeling is he plays well Sunday and reinforces the team’s confidence in him as Tony Romo’s injury replacement. From everything we’ve heard about the rookie quarterback, he has prepared himself as much as humanly possible to lead the offense against a revamped and talented Giants defense. When you’re truly prepared, you typically play relaxed and confident. Ezekiel Elliott should set the tone in the running game like he did in a dozen or so plays at Seattle, too. That will help Prescott. Defensively, the Cowboys have the corners to match up with the Giants’ versatile receivers. The biggest factor will be how much pressure the defensive line gets against Eli Manning. If he’s too comfortable in the pocket, it won’t matter how well the secondary covers. Manning’s experience is the difference to me in what could be a tightly-contested game.
Nick Eatman: This one has been a tough to read for me – and it should be. The Cowboys and Giants always play tough games, regardless how good the teams are. We should be getting used to these Week 1 matchups by now, but it’s still hard to predict what will happen, other than a tight contest down to the wire. I’m fully expecting Eli Manning to have the ball in his hands with about two minutes to play and driving down the field. I’ve been saying it all week on “Cowboys Break,” but something tells me Barry Church will have a key play/moment in this game. At first, I kept saying it will be a big moment for one of the teams, leaving it open that he could give up a big play or have a missed opportunity. But now, I’m starting to lean that his play will be a positive one. Maybe it’s Church who picks off a Manning pass in the final minutes or in this specific case, gets a pick on a game-tying two-point conversion. Other predictions include 100 yards even for Ezekiel Elliott and Geoff Swaim gets a touchdown – maybe the first one of the game. I’ve got Dallas winning a close one, 28-26.
Bryan Broaddus: The strength of this Cowboys defensive line is its tackles. Where I have my concerns is that, as good as they might be -- will this group be able to finish the job? Getting close and getting Eli Manning on the ground are two separate things, and history has shown that Manning doesn’t take sacks. My gut feeling is that front will be close throughout the game, but their inability to get Manning on the ground -- especially in obvious passing situations -- will lead to some game changing plays that will be too much to overcome. Giants take this one 24-20.