2016 NFL Draft Thread...

[ThoughtExperiment]

IF we go QB one of the reasons I want goff is that he is less likely to be damaged by our incompetent coaching. Wentz and Lynch are very vulnerable to that. Sure they will have Romo to help but he can do just so much since most of his time is spent making the offense work in spite of the coaches.

Yep, we need the absolute most polished guy possible.

Maybe we should take Cook even though he's a douche and doesn't have nearly as much upside as the others. But at least he played in a pro offense in big games for a very big time coach.

This is where we are under the Garrett/Wade Wilson regime.

 

[dbair1967]

Not in agreement at all. Take the guy ( if you have the option)!that your scouts believe is the best player with the most upside to develop, that fits what you want to do offensively. If it's Goff fine, but if it's Wentz or Lynch then pick them.

 

[cmd34]

I think the biggest factor for me is that I feel that Goff, like Romo, is Garrett-proof. He's a "gunslinger".

I like Wentz and Lynch, Heck, I even like Cook and Hackenberg. I just don't think we have the coaching these guys will require.

I don't care who our coach is, I don't want Dak Prescott at all.

 

[Scot]

I think the biggest factor for me is that I feel that Goff, like Romo, is Garrett-proof. He's a "gunslinger".

I like Wentz and Lynch, Heck, I even like Cook and Hackenberg. I just don't think we have the coaching these guys will require.

I don't care who are coach is, I don't want Dak Prescott at all.

Nobody is Garret Proof!

 

[Iamtdg]

I think the biggest factor for me is that I feel that Goff, like Romo, is Garrett-proof. He's a "gunslinger".

I like Wentz and Lynch, Heck, I even like Cook and Hackenberg. I just don't think we have the coaching these guys will require.

I don't care who are coach is, I don't want Dak Prescott at all.

It's like you're not even trying anymore.

 

[cmd34]

It's like you're not even trying anymore.

The idea of Prescott makes me so sick that I lose all grammar skills.


Mods, please update and erase all posts that reflect poorly on me.

 

[Iamtdg]

Mods, please update and erase all posts that reflect poorly on me.

 

[MrB]

I think the biggest factor for me is that I feel that Goff, like Romo, is Garrett-proof. He's a "gunslinger".

I like Wentz and Lynch, Heck, I even like Cook and Hackenberg. I just don't think we have the coaching these guys will require.

I don't care who our coach is, I don't want Dak Prescott at all.

I'm all for taking a QB however what you said here scares the hell out of me (if we did take a QB in any round). Wade Wilson fucking sucks. He hasn't developed anyone since he's been a QB coach.

 

[Doomsday]

Just stumbled on this guy. My new sleeper.

Will Ratelle. 5'9 250 ILB. Runs a 4.57. 36 bench reps. 36 vert.

I just up and called this guy on his phone number given in the video, and told him we think he's a badass and hope to get to see him in Dallas this season.

He was very polite and said he would love to play for the Cowboys.

 

[onlyonenow]

I just up and called this guy on his phone number given in the video, and told him we think he's a badass and hope to get to see him in Dallas this season.

He was very polite and said he would love to play for the Cowboys.

one thing about short ILB's:
offensive linemen have a hard time seeing them and they can slip in and really rock someone's world

 

[dbair1967]

Mods, please update and erase all posts that reflect poorly on me.

You're asking them to delete 10,956 posts?

 

[dbair1967]

I'm all for taking a QB however what you said here scares the hell out of me (if we did take a QB in any round). Wade Wilson fucking sucks. He hasn't developed anyone since he's been a QB coach.

Quick, name all the great talent he's been asked to develop at QB.

I'm not saying I think he is good, but to be fair to the guy we've drafted one project QB since he's been here, and that guy was a 4th rounder.

 

[Doomsday]

one thing about short ILB's:
offensive linemen have a hard time seeing them and they can slip in and really rock someone's world

As seems evident in the highlight video.

This dude is durable too. I just saw where 23 year-old Buffalo LB A.J. Tarpley retired today after his rookie season - says he had four concussions his first year. He chose to walk away and this is happening more often these days.

 

[cmd34]

You're asking them to delete 10,956 posts?

Post counts mean nothing to me. Never have.

 

[MrB]

Stephen McGee, and Dustin Vaughn to name two. Vaughn was undrafted but couldn't even be good enough to beat out any of the other spares we've had at backup QB? I blame the coach. Then factor in guys like Weeden and Cassell that regressed once they got here. The guys sucks.

 

[Doomsday]

Vaughn was undrafted but couldn't even be good enough to beat out any of the other spares we've had at backup QB? I blame the coach.

After he was cut by the Bills, Dallas called asking him to come back. He declined. I still think he could have done at least as well as what we saw. Weeden though, was recently re-signed by Houston. He seemed to have the ability to win some games there for some reason.

I'll also note I've never seen anything at all about other teams pursuing Wilson. Seems like if he was worth a shit others would have come calling.

 

[MrB]

As seems evident in the highlight video.

This dude is durable too. I just saw where 23 year-old Buffalo LB A.J. Tarpley retired today after his rookie season - says he had four concussions his first year. He chose to walk away and this is happening more often these days.

Like the San Fran LB

 

[dbair1967]

Stephen McGee, and Dustin Vaughn to name two. Vaughn was undrafted but couldn't even be good enough to beat out any of the other spares we've had at backup QB? I blame the coach. Then factor in guys like Weeden and Cassell that regressed once they got here. The guys sucks.

Weeden and Cassel regressed? Huh?

As for McGee and Vaughan-

 

[dbair1967]

After he was cut by the Bills, Dallas called asking him to come back. He declined.

Have to ask for link here, have never seen or heard this.

I'll also note I've never seen anything at all about other teams pursuing Wilson. Seems like if he was worth a shit others would have come calling.

Maybe nobody wants him, although he was a QB coach with Chicago before he returned here again 2007

 

[dbair1967]

Stephen McGee, and Dustin Vaughn to name two. Vaughn was undrafted but couldn't even be good enough to beat out any of the other spares we've had at backup QB? I blame the coach. Then factor in guys like Weeden and Cassell that regressed once they got here. The guys sucks.

Again, the question was "great talent" not "scrub talent"

McGee after he was cut here got a few weeks with the Texans practice squad I think, got released and went to the CFL, where he was apparently a back up and currently is unemployed. Vaughan was so awful last year that he got beat out by Jameil Showers, went to another teams practice squad and got released again after a few weeks. According to something I read he got signed by the Stealers to be a camp arm this year.

As for Weeden, he should have never been benched or released. He posted the highest comp%, highest yds per attempt, completed the longest pass and had the lowest int % of any of the QB's that played for us last year. When they dumped him for Cassel, Cassell proved to be FAR worse as a player and showed he was pretty much washed up.

I am not defending or supporting Wade Wilson, maybe he does really suck. I'm just saying they haven't exactly given him (or any of the coaches) anything to really develop here. They've drafted 4 QB's in the regular draft since Jones owned the team (Aikman, Musgrave, Q Bong & McGee) and a 5th came via the sup draft (Walsh, who was traded 1 yr after we took him). The numbers CLEARLY show you have a much better chance of finding starting QB's by selecting them early in the draft, and we haven't done that. We've hardly invested anything.