2015 NFL Week #3: TNF | Atlanta Falcons (2-0) @ Dallas Cowboys (2-0)

[Doomsday]

On a side note, it also pisses me off to see Julio torch whatever team he plays despite what the defense does to stop him yet Dez can apparently be completely taken out of the game at stretches at a time. Either Dez isn't as good as advertised or somethings fucked up with the play calling.

Ding Ding Ding! Somehow when teams would try the same stuff on Irvin, Norv would find a way to get Michael open. Lining him up on different sides and different spots such as the slot, lining him up double or trips right, bringing him in motion, something besides just the same shit play after play and letting them take our wideout out of the game like this idiot staff does with Dez.

When have we ever seen Dez come in motion?

 

[Doomsday]

We are all assuming the when we get Romo and Dez back that we will win every game

No we're not! Nobody's said any such.

 

[Scot]

I agree with the way we use Dez

They found a way to get the ball to J. jones all game long and he was all over the place

They don't just line him up the same play after play

It seems we have the right players to go all the way. Just not the right coaches

 

[Doomsday]

They found a way to get the ball to J. jones all game long and he was all over the place

They put on a CLINIC on how to defeat double coverage on the wideout. Absolutely.

 

[Scot]

I heard today that our WR were only targeted 8 times, 3 towards Williams and 5 to Beasley

10 to Witten, none to Escobar and the rest to the RB's

When our RB is continually our top target then we have serious problems

 

[UVAwahoos]

I agree with the way we use Dez

They found a way to get the ball to J. jones all game long and he was all over the place

They don't just line him up the same play after play

It seems we have the right players to go all the way. Just not the right coaches

Which speaks to just how good Romo truly has become. He has had more adversity than any top QB in the league. Who else can you name without a head coach for guidance?

 

[bbgun]

 

[dbair1967]

We are all assuming the when we get Romo and Dez back that we will win every game

Although I would love to believe that I feel it will take a game or two for them to both get in sync with the rest of the offense again

It will be basically like coming out of the off season with no pre season to get up to speed

I don't believe that at all, but there's no doubt our chances to win a bunch of games go way up with the two best players being back out there.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

We are all assuming the when we get Romo and Dez back that we will win every game

Although I would love to believe that I feel it will take a game or two for them to both get in sync with the rest of the offense again

It will be basically like coming out of the off season with no pre season to get up to speed

If we had both Romo and Dez, we would have beaten Atlanta without a doubt. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. Because all you would have had to ask them is, whether the Falcons would have won without Ryan and Jones.

The Falcons would not have beaten the Eagles or Giants without Jones. The Falcons would not have beaten the Eagles or Giants without Ryan AND Jones.

 

[Dodger12]

If we had both Romo and Dez, we would have beaten Atlanta without a doubt. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. Because all you would have had to ask them is, whether the Falcons would have won without Ryan and Jones.

We've had scrubs beat us before. QB's coming off their couches in 2013 cut up our D like Swiss cheese. I wouldn't be so definitive to think that we'd automatically win against a back-up QB or a team with injuries.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

“You have to understand what their style of defense is,” Garrett said of the Falcons. “They commit a lot of people to the line of scrimmage and then their corners play high. If you can picture Seattle’s corners how they play high and deep. Not many people make a lot of big plays. That’s the style of defense. So they help themselves that way by making it difficult for you to run the football and equally make it challenging for you to make big plays in the passing game. There were some opportunities to throw the ball outside to the outside receivers that we didn’t take full advantage of. To say we should’ve thrown it down the field more, I don’t know that’s accurate.”

Ok I get it because Quinn was the DC for Seattle, but then assphuck how d you explain the first half where the Cowboys gouged the Falcons' defense, especially with the run? Did they commit a lot of people to the LOS then, and were their corners playing high then?

Then how do you explain last year against the Seahawks?

No asshole. The Falcons made adjustments come the second half. Your dumb ass thought what worked in the first half, would work in the second.

So basically... you have no answer to a defense that plays a lot of people close to the line and their corners high.



I. HATE. THIS. FUCKER.


In this situation wouldn't some screens been effective since they were crowding the LOS?

 

[Omegasupreme]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/da...o-respect-the-speed-and-start-cheating-up.ece

ARLINGTON -- After the Falcons dispatched the Cowboys on Sunday a crowd of them walked back to their locker room together.

"Let me feel that energy," Falcons safety William Moore told his teammates. "We just did something!"

"It's all about that finish!" another one yelled.

The finish is what gave the Falcons a 39-28 a win. Or, to be more specific, the second half is what gave the Falcons a 39-28 win.

The Falcons trailed 28-17 at halftime after gaining just 52 rushing yards.

"Clearly they punched us in the mouth," Falcons coach Dan Quinn said. "We were looking to respond."

They did, shutting out the Cowboys in the second half and scoring 25 unanswered points. Atlanta finished with 158 rushing yards, including 141 yards and three touchdowns from running back Devonta Freeman, who started in place of Tevin Coleman.

The Falcons said they didn't change anything in the second half defensively.

"We were misfitting it," Falcons linebacker Justin Durant said of stopping the Cowboys run game. "We weren't fitting right and we weren't tackling."

Safeties Ricardo Allen and William Moore both said it was more of a matter of realizing what the Cowboys were doing and challenging them to do something else.

The two biggest things the Cowboys were doing well: running the football and dumping it to Lance Dunbar out of the backfield.

Falcons defensive lineman Jonathan Babineaux said stopping the run was just a matter of realizing what run plays the Cowboys were using. Moore said stopping the short passes to Dunbar was a matter of cheating up.

"With Dunbar, his speed, we knew what we were facing," Moore said. "Once he gets out of the backfield, they like to bubble him a lot and most of the time matchup him up against linebackers. We had to respect the speed and start cheating up on him a lot."

That cheating up made the Falcons susceptible to a deep pass, but Cowboys quarterback Brandon Weeden rarely took the opportunity and never connected. His only completion of more than 20 yards came on a catch-and-run by Dunbar.

"They weren't trying to beat us down the field at all," Allen said.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

"They weren't trying to beat us down the field at all," Allen said.

If you're not going to trust the QB to throw downfield, when the defense presents it... then why bother?

Seems that Garrett has serious trust issues with the players, when it's the players that should have trust issues with Garrett --- hw many other HCs ice their own kickers? The players have bailed him out time and time again --- they won game sin SPITE of him; not because of him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

A lot of tough talk about going deep and Weeden isn't afraid of throwing it there this week; blaming the game plan for Sunday's loss.

 

[dbair1967]

Still having a hard time blaming Weeden much for anything. The interception was a bad decision and not throwing the ball away to avoid the late sack was not good but otherwise he played pretty well overall. He completed almost all his throws and the offense scored 28 pts on legitimate drives. It wasn't like the defense or special teams gave them the ball at Falcons 2 yd line or something.

If you score 28 pts with your backup QB in there and your all world WR out, you have to be pretty damn happy. The loss was 100% on the defense, which melted down.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

You know what will probably happen this week, right.... Overcompensation and lots of shots downfield. We've seen it many times in the Garrett era, whether it be running it a ton after being criticized all week for not running or whatever.

Probably cause some interceptions but we'll show that media!

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

We've had scrubs beat us before. QB's coming off their couches in 2013 cut up our D like Swiss cheese. I wouldn't be so definitive to think that we'd automatically win against a back-up QB or a team with injuries.

True. This team does play down to the level of competition, but where they would have lost possibly to said scrubs, they would have beaten a full strength Atlanta team. Peculiar how that works. Beat the best that a team has to offer, while losing to the worse that a team has to offer.

 

[Scot]

True. This team does play down to the level of compensation, but where they would have lost possibly to said scrubs, they would have beaten a full strength Atlanta team. Peculiar how that works. Beat the best that a team has to offer, while losing to the worse that a team has to offer.

That is exactly what we hope all of our competitors do for the next 6 weeks. Loose to the worst that "our" team has to offer

 

[ZeroClub]

Still having a hard time blaming Weeden much for anything. The interception was a bad decision and not throwing the ball away to avoid the late sack was not good but otherwise he played pretty well overall. He completed almost all his throws and the offense scored 28 pts on legitimate drives. It wasn't like the defense or special teams gave them the ball at Falcons 2 yd line or something.

If you score 28 pts with your backup QB in there and your all world WR out, you have to be pretty damn happy. The loss was 100% on the defense, which melted down.

I don't think Weeden was particularly bad either, with the two exceptions that you noted.

I thought Weeden played about as well as could be reasonably expected. He was serviceable.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Aikman said this morning on his Ticket show Weeden wasn't to blame and he thought he played pretty well and did what the coaches asked. Troy put the loss more on the defense.

Which seemed pretty obvious to me.