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We were relatively healthy on both sides of the ball and a pretty superior offense on paper.
Bears .. really hurt on D with a backup at QB.
Who wants it more?
No fire in the belly with Jerry teams. Funny, those "out there" owners have the wimpiest squads.
Bears .. really hurt on D with a backup at QB.
Who wants it more?
No fire in the belly with Jerry teams. Funny, those "out there" owners have the wimpiest squads.
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idk what I would do the rest of the year if I were Garrett or whoever is in charge over there, but I'd start by putting Claiborne on IR.
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That implies seeing a bigger picture, like trying to send a message... But no one here has that. They'll hope to get him back to add a little talent so hopefully they can all keep their jobs.
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. It's just ice and moths in place of their souls, so I'm sure he's right at home. Also, going away from the run for no reason at all was definitely one of my favorite things ever. Even on the TD drive to Dez, it was awesome how Murray got us to the goalline and then Ginger dialed up two pass plays. This is the same story as the last couple seasons under this idiot. He'll spazz out and completely abdandon the run the very second that they go down by a few points. He's just so fucking terrible in so many ways.
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Claiborne is eons better than BW Webb
In fact after tonight, Claiborne should probably be back in the starting lineup ASAP after what we saw from carr and Scandrick, both of whom were absolutely horrible in every way possible
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lol yeah, Claiborne is the one.
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Even if Claiborne magically become the player Jerry said he was when we drafted him, his return would hardly be enough to save this defense.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Kiffin's late 90's defense works best when you have 4 defensive linemen who can win one-on-one match-ups to create pressure AND two cerebral safeties who can cover a lot of ground.
We trot out dudes who were cut multiple times for the d line and undrafted or untalented scrubs at Safeties. Flawed, flawed, flawed from the get go.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Kiffin's late 90's defense works best when you have 4 defensive linemen who can win one-on-one match-ups to create pressure AND two cerebral safeties who can cover a lot of ground.
We trot out dudes who were cut multiple times for the d line and undrafted or untalented scrubs at Safeties. Flawed, flawed, flawed from the get go.
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Rapid Reaction: Dallas Cowboys
December, 9, 2013
By Todd Archer | ESPNDallas.com
CHICAGO - A few thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys' 45-28 loss to the Chicago Bears on Monday.
What it means for the Cowboys: With this embarrassment the Cowboys now find themselves chasing the Philadelphia Eagles and in the need to win to make sure the Week 17 meeting at AT&T Stadium is for the NFC East title.
If they can, then they will be in their third straight de facto NFC East title game to close the season. If they can't, then owner and general manager Jerry Jones will have to reassess his statement that Jason Garrett will be the coach in 2014.
It's December, so the Cowboys struggle because that's what they do. Tony Romo has taken the brunt of the criticism for that record, but Monday's loss falls squarely on the defense. Josh McCown threw for four touchdowns and ran for another score. Wide receivers Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall did whatever they wanted against whoever they wanted. Matt Forte ran for more than 100 yards.
If there was ever a sign that Monte Kiffin should be out as coordinator after this season, it was this game. It's one thing to get lit up by Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. It's quite another to have it happen against a backup quarterback, even if McCown had been playing well in Jay Cutler's absence.
Stock watch: DeMarcus Ware, falling. Last week Ware said the strength had finally returned to his quadriceps that kept him out for three games. But he was invisible versus the Bears before he was gifted a sack in the fourth quarter. Ware has two sacks since his return but is likely to see his streak of having at least 10 sacks in a season end at seven.
There's no defense in Dallas: Blame the injuries all you want, but Rob Ryan at least had an injury-riddled defense competitive last year. Kiffin has had to deal with injuries but he had zero answers for the Bears.
The Cowboys allowed 24 points in the first half. Only New Orleans and Denver had more against the Cowboys in an opening half (28 each). The Cowboys allowed 32 first downs. Only New Orleans (an NFL record 40) and Denver (34) had more. The Cowboys allowed 498 yards. Only San Diego (506), Denver (517), Detroit (623) and New Orleans (625) had more. It's the fourth time a quarterback has had four touchdown passes against the Cowboys.
In the first half the Bears had 12 plays of at least 10 yards. They scored quickly (a 37 second drive) and they ate up clock (90 yards, 8:10).
They did whatever they wanted to do.
Hurt again: Sean Lee made his return to the lineup after a two-game absence because of a hamstring injury but he could not finish the game after suffering a neck injury with 12:33 left in the third quarter.
Lee returned briefly for five plays before he went to the locker room for the rest of the game. Lee has yet to play a full season in his career because of injuries. He is the best playmaker on the defense, but even with him the defense has not been close to adequate. Imagine how bad things would be if Lee missed even more playing time?
The Cowboys might be about to find out.
Hey, a running game: Let's get about the only positive the Cowboys had from Monday's game: They ran the ball well. DeMarco Murray ran for 145 yards on 18 carries. He now has 842 on the year and has a shot at reaching 1,000 for the season.
But why be positive on a night like this?
What's next: The Cowboys return to AT&T Stadium on Sunday to face the Green Bay Packers. The biggest question is whether Aaron Rodgers will make his return from a collarbone injury. If he does, the task is much more difficult. The Cowboys are 5-1 at AT&T Stadium this season, but the Packers have some good memories there as well, having won Super Bowl XLV there.
December, 9, 2013
By Todd Archer | ESPNDallas.com
CHICAGO - A few thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys' 45-28 loss to the Chicago Bears on Monday.
What it means for the Cowboys: With this embarrassment the Cowboys now find themselves chasing the Philadelphia Eagles and in the need to win to make sure the Week 17 meeting at AT&T Stadium is for the NFC East title.
If they can, then they will be in their third straight de facto NFC East title game to close the season. If they can't, then owner and general manager Jerry Jones will have to reassess his statement that Jason Garrett will be the coach in 2014.
It's December, so the Cowboys struggle because that's what they do. Tony Romo has taken the brunt of the criticism for that record, but Monday's loss falls squarely on the defense. Josh McCown threw for four touchdowns and ran for another score. Wide receivers Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall did whatever they wanted against whoever they wanted. Matt Forte ran for more than 100 yards.
If there was ever a sign that Monte Kiffin should be out as coordinator after this season, it was this game. It's one thing to get lit up by Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. It's quite another to have it happen against a backup quarterback, even if McCown had been playing well in Jay Cutler's absence.
Stock watch: DeMarcus Ware, falling. Last week Ware said the strength had finally returned to his quadriceps that kept him out for three games. But he was invisible versus the Bears before he was gifted a sack in the fourth quarter. Ware has two sacks since his return but is likely to see his streak of having at least 10 sacks in a season end at seven.
There's no defense in Dallas: Blame the injuries all you want, but Rob Ryan at least had an injury-riddled defense competitive last year. Kiffin has had to deal with injuries but he had zero answers for the Bears.
The Cowboys allowed 24 points in the first half. Only New Orleans and Denver had more against the Cowboys in an opening half (28 each). The Cowboys allowed 32 first downs. Only New Orleans (an NFL record 40) and Denver (34) had more. The Cowboys allowed 498 yards. Only San Diego (506), Denver (517), Detroit (623) and New Orleans (625) had more. It's the fourth time a quarterback has had four touchdown passes against the Cowboys.
In the first half the Bears had 12 plays of at least 10 yards. They scored quickly (a 37 second drive) and they ate up clock (90 yards, 8:10).
They did whatever they wanted to do.
Hurt again: Sean Lee made his return to the lineup after a two-game absence because of a hamstring injury but he could not finish the game after suffering a neck injury with 12:33 left in the third quarter.
Lee returned briefly for five plays before he went to the locker room for the rest of the game. Lee has yet to play a full season in his career because of injuries. He is the best playmaker on the defense, but even with him the defense has not been close to adequate. Imagine how bad things would be if Lee missed even more playing time?
The Cowboys might be about to find out.
Hey, a running game: Let's get about the only positive the Cowboys had from Monday's game: They ran the ball well. DeMarco Murray ran for 145 yards on 18 carries. He now has 842 on the year and has a shot at reaching 1,000 for the season.
But why be positive on a night like this?
What's next: The Cowboys return to AT&T Stadium on Sunday to face the Green Bay Packers. The biggest question is whether Aaron Rodgers will make his return from a collarbone injury. If he does, the task is much more difficult. The Cowboys are 5-1 at AT&T Stadium this season, but the Packers have some good memories there as well, having won Super Bowl XLV there.
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Is there anyway to cut or trade Ware? Is it even financially feasible?
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this defense has no talent...there isnt anything else to it....cmon guys...does kiffin suck?? yeah...but the players are even worse...clean house already
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what good would it do
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Idk, maybe make him a highly paid, part time John Abraham nickel rusher. fuck idk
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Oh you see this all the time now. SF and Seattle retooled a bit, but essentially just developed through the draft and excellent coaching. The opposite has been happening in Dallas for 20 years now, so I'm not sure why anyone still expects some magical change to occur.
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there's some truth there, but even the 1989 Cowboy defense wasn't this bad, or even close to this bad...they had almost no NFL talent at all
coaching matters...the team shouldn't be THIS bad
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idk, stock up on draft picks because we're going to need them with the shape our cap is in.