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I don't want to be little bitches like the giants but I'd consider sending a tape into the league.

I've wondered for years if they ever complain about this shit to the league in private. I mean some of its just so blatantly bad that it cant be an accident or just a "missed call"
 
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I don't think RGIII should win OROY based on him missing one game and not finishing two others.

KC1 won them two of the Redskins 8 wins.

Sounds like an agenda to me.

This cornball is blowing shit away. He's over 104 QBR and his TD:INT ratio is ridiculous. The knee injury actually made people love him more too bc of that press conference. Hilariously, Jay Cutler took the brunt of criticism for Bob III's injury bc it reminded everyone of how much they hate Cutler.

The only other candidate I can think of for ROY is Russell Wilson, but people keep treating him like he's overcoming leukemia just cuz he's not allowed to ride all the coasters at six flags. Sorry, can't give everyone a blue ribbon for participating, Russell.

If Skins win out, it won't even be up for debate.
 

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3 rookie starters who've basically played the whole year (minus one game and a few snaps for Griffin) and all 3 are playing well, and all 3 likely can be in the playoffs in a couple weeks.

Guessing thats never happened in league history. Further proof of what effect parity has had on the league.

Agree with UVA, RGIII should be rookie of the year, although Wilson and Luck both should get considerable votes as well.
 
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I'd give it to both Wilson and Luck before Griffin.

Luck has more turnovers, but he plays in an offensive system where he's throwing the ball down the field a lot.

And he took a 2 win team from last year and has them in the playoffs.

Wilsons stats aren't that much different than Griffin, and he hasn't missed any games.

RG3 is a media creation. The ESPN Hype machine might get him the award, but Alfred Morris is the best rookie on that team.
 

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I'd give it to both Wilson and Luck before Griffin.

Luck has more turnovers, but he plays in an offensive system where he's throwing the ball down the field a lot.

And he took a 2 win team from last year and has them in the playoffs.

Wilsons stats aren't that much different than Griffin, and he hasn't missed any games.

RG3 is a media creation. The ESPN Hype machine might get him the award, but Alfred Morris is the best rookie on that team.



If Griffins gets it, it'll be because if addition to his running the ball more.
 
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Manning MVP (turned them into an elite team)
RG3 ROY (I think they win out* and probably win a playoff game or two)

*I’m staying negative on the Cowboys, seems to be working.
 
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I got to be honest though, I'm arguing against RG3 winning the award but I really don't care one way or the other.

After Roy Williams 31 didn't win DROY in 2002, I ceased caring for these types of things.
 

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Not sure how andrew luck isn't in the same conversation. Not only did they have 2 wins last year. They chopped half there roster after the season with exception to Wayne.

Not even the Colts expected this success so soon
 
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Luck is in the conversation, although his detractors point to the 18 ints. But again, he's playing in a much more verticle offense.

But yeah, that should be a 2-3 win team and he's carried them to 9 wins somehow.
 
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I think Luck may suffer from not having any prime time games. Last time i really saw him play was in the preseason. Obviously what he is doing in Indy is impressive.
 
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