I've heard/read that the knock on Kuechly is that while he's a tackling machine, all those tackles are 5-8 yards down field. He doesn't make plays at or behind the LOS.
I've heard/read that the knock on Kuechly is that while he's a tackling machine, all those tackles are 5-8 yards down field. He doesn't make plays at or behind the LOS.
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I love that people are blowing up at the Combine especially since we are drafting 14th. Luck, RG3, Kalil, Blackmon, and Morris Claiborne will all go ahead of our picks so that's 5 players. So we have to look at 9 players, knowing 1 of them will be there. If Riley Reiff, Trent Richardson, and somehow Ryan Tannehill go, now that's 6 players.
We should get an impact player out of:
David DeCastro G
Melvin Ingram OLB
Quinton Coples DE (OLB?)
Nick Perry OLB
Courtney Upshaw OLB
Dontari Poe NT
possibly Cordy Glenn G/T
We should get an impact player out of:
David DeCastro G
Melvin Ingram OLB
Quinton Coples DE (OLB?)
Nick Perry OLB
Courtney Upshaw OLB
Dontari Poe NT
possibly Cordy Glenn G/T
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Stephen Hill. Georgia Tech just doesn't throw enough to show what he can do.
Dontari Poe. I thought he was beatting up on wimpy ConferenceUSA opponents or whatever crap conference Memphis is in now. He is way stronger and quicker than I imagined.
I was already high on Nick Perry but I have to temper my USC rooting enthusiasm so I was being cautious with hyping him. Tyron Smith was so good that I didn't care last year. Plus I knew Houck was gaga over him.
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They're saying since he has short arms, measured in at 32" wingspan, that he'd be better at DE in the 3-4. But I thought you wanted those long-armed guys on the edge?
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You have your Kowalski and I have my Poe.
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Anyone could have seen that speed on his game-tapes. He is crazy fast.
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These two. However, I wouldn't mind trading down and getting Glenn. I'd bve just as happy with a left side Oline of Smith and Glenn as I would be with Smith and DeCastro.
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And Irvin is only getting better. He's a unique case because he hasn't played football for very long but still looks like he knows what he's doing out there. Sky is the limit and it wouldn't surprise me if he comes out of this draft class to wind up as the best pass-rusher of the group.
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Nick Perry with a 38'5" vert. Dude is explosive.
4.5 40. Dayum.
1.57 10 yard split. Jizz in my pants!
4.5 40. Dayum.
1.57 10 yard split. Jizz in my pants!
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Melvin Ingram looked better at dt then Olb
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We need to come out of the 1st 2 rounds with either a DE, OLB, or Poe.
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overused, your boy Hightower ran a 4.6.
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Need a ILB? Cal's Mychal Kendricks blew up at the Combine to go along with a pretty decent college career.
4.47 40
39'5" vert
4.19 short shuttle.
4.47 40
39'5" vert
4.19 short shuttle.
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Scouts Inc.'s Combine blurbs...
By Steve Muench
Note: All combine times are unofficial until the NFL releases results following the final workouts of the week.
A breakdown of offensive linemen who are standing out during afternoon workouts:
• Iowa OG Adam Gettis continues to have an impressive workout. He posted a 31½-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot-4 broad jump. The averages for guards over the last four combines are 26½ and 8-4. California (Pa.) G Rishaw Johnson also posted a 31½ vertical, and he weighed in 20 pounds heavier than Gettis at 313 pounds.
• Boise State OT Nate Potter stumbled when asked to pull around a guard. Potter has to take a deeper first step and show better balance. He also showed just average foot speed and balance when asked to change to directions quickly.
• Midwestern State G Amini Silatolu looked explosive and showed above average lateral quickness when asked to drop and slide in space. California OT Mitchell Schwartz didn't show the same kind of foot speed, but did display above-average footwork and body control.
Note: All combine times are unofficial until the NFL releases results following the final workouts of the week.
A breakdown of offensive linemen who are standing out during afternoon workouts:
• Iowa OG Adam Gettis continues to have an impressive workout. He posted a 31½-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot-4 broad jump. The averages for guards over the last four combines are 26½ and 8-4. California (Pa.) G Rishaw Johnson also posted a 31½ vertical, and he weighed in 20 pounds heavier than Gettis at 313 pounds.
• Boise State OT Nate Potter stumbled when asked to pull around a guard. Potter has to take a deeper first step and show better balance. He also showed just average foot speed and balance when asked to change to directions quickly.
• Midwestern State G Amini Silatolu looked explosive and showed above average lateral quickness when asked to drop and slide in space. California OT Mitchell Schwartz didn't show the same kind of foot speed, but did display above-average footwork and body control.
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• Two linemen posted impressive 10-yard splits in the 40-yard dash. The first is California (Pa.) G
Rishaw Johnson, whose 1.77-second split confirms the initial explosiveness you see on film, and is below the four-year combine average (1.88) for guards. Johnson (6-foot-3, 313 pounds) is as explosive as they come along the interior and gets to the second level quickly. He is solidly in the middle rounds at this point.
The second is 345-pound Georgia G
Cordy GlennThe second is 345-pound Georgia G
, whose split of 1.76 shows impressive burst for a player with his massive frame. Glenn didn't show great lateral quickness or mobility when asked to change directions in space, but he did a nice job of beating the defender to the corner during a drill designed to simulate a rusher coming off the edge. Glenn has risen quickly after a strong week at the Senior Bowl and is a first-round possibility.
• Stanford G
David DeCastro• Stanford G
and Baylor C Phillip Blake didn't shine in the edge-rush drill, but that's somewhat expected from players who line up on the interior. However, Utah OTs
Tony Bergstrom and
John Cullen both need to show a quicker kick step and slide more fluidly if they hope to make their living on the edge.
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By Todd McShay
Osweiler comes up short
Arizona State QB Brock Osweiler measured shorter than expected at 6-6⅞, but that's a good thing for him. He was listed at 6-8 in college, and no one is thrilled about quarterbacks that tall. Osweiler is rising based on film study, and he's a former Gonzaga basketball recruit with good feet and mobility for his size. He currently ranks at the No. 27 overall prospect on my board.
Wright the final height winner
There was concern Baylor WR Kendall Wright would measure right around 5-7, but he came in at 5-10¼. Wright is a dynamic playmaker in the passing game and currently ranks as a first-round prospect and the No. 2 receiver on the board behind Oklahoma State's Justin Blackmon.
Good and bad for running backs
Alabama RB Trent Richardson won't work out at the combine after minor arthroscopic surgery on his knee, but he showed up in very good shape. Richardson checked in at 5-9¼ and 228 pounds, but he carries the weight amazingly well. He looks more like he's 210 pounds, and is clearly very strong in the lower body. Not surprising for an early-first-round prospect with an elite combination of speed and power.
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Trio who are growing on us
Illinois G Jeff Allen did not reach the top five in any major category during testing but stood out during drill work. Allen appears to be a bit knock-kneed, but he displayed good flexibility with natural bend throughout the workout. He also did a nice job keeping his feet within his frame, short-stepping and maintaining balance. He showed well during the short-pull drill, running a tight loop while staying low and keeping his feet moving after hitting the bag.
Oklahoma OT Donald Stephenson turned in a good days' work as well. Stephenson turned in the top 40-yard dash (4.94), broad jump (9-5) and vertical jump (35½) among linemen, and that vertical is 8½ inches better than the four-year average for tackles. Stephenson was able to transition that quick-twitched explosiveness to drill work, coming out of his stance with good initial quickness.
The 6-5½ and 312-pounder tackle could have shown better balance and often took an extra step when changing direction suddenly, but overall it was a strong showing for Stephenson and evaluators will be forced to go back and take an extra look at his tape.
Finally, Iowa G Adam Gettis (6-2⅛, 293) also turned heads with an outstanding workout. He has the best 10-yard split (1.66), second-best broad jump (9-4) and third-best 40 (5.00) and vertical (31½) of all offensive linemen. Gettis projects as a Day 3 pick at this point, but this showing means teams will take another look at him to see if they missed something during the evaluation process.
Illinois G Jeff Allen did not reach the top five in any major category during testing but stood out during drill work. Allen appears to be a bit knock-kneed, but he displayed good flexibility with natural bend throughout the workout. He also did a nice job keeping his feet within his frame, short-stepping and maintaining balance. He showed well during the short-pull drill, running a tight loop while staying low and keeping his feet moving after hitting the bag.
Oklahoma OT Donald Stephenson turned in a good days' work as well. Stephenson turned in the top 40-yard dash (4.94), broad jump (9-5) and vertical jump (35½) among linemen, and that vertical is 8½ inches better than the four-year average for tackles. Stephenson was able to transition that quick-twitched explosiveness to drill work, coming out of his stance with good initial quickness.
The 6-5½ and 312-pounder tackle could have shown better balance and often took an extra step when changing direction suddenly, but overall it was a strong showing for Stephenson and evaluators will be forced to go back and take an extra look at his tape.
Finally, Iowa G Adam Gettis (6-2⅛, 293) also turned heads with an outstanding workout. He has the best 10-yard split (1.66), second-best broad jump (9-4) and third-best 40 (5.00) and vertical (31½) of all offensive linemen. Gettis projects as a Day 3 pick at this point, but this showing means teams will take another look at him to see if they missed something during the evaluation process.