2011 Season Game Threads Mega-Merge

[Bonecrusher#31]

watch Chitcago come in and wipe their asses with Philly next week.....

Bet on it...Oops I'm suppose to be gone.

 

[Theebs]

Some of the guys you are feeling sorry for are guys we may end up needing to get rid of to turn it around...

Garrett and the whole organization (other than Ware, Murray and Tanner) laid a big fat egg tonight...this was a laughingstock type effort

Was a laugher for sure, brad and babe basically goofed around all night in the boothe and told people to make sure and enjoy Halloween anyway and that there is another game next week. The only other seasons I have really heard them talk like that were 04 and 10.

 

[dbair1967]

Was a laugher for sure, brad and babe basically goofed around all night in the boothe and told people to make sure and enjoy Halloween anyway and that there is another game next week. The only other seasons I have really heard them talk like that were 04 and 10.

Oh man....thats bad

 

[Freddie]

A lot of teeth gnashing in this thread. I don't understand it. For me it is about how I was raised. Hard to explain, but I let other people freak out. I handle it as calmly as I can and move on.

Go Cowboys.

 

[VA Cowboy]

A lot of teeth gnashing in this thread. I don't understand it. For me it is about how I was raised. Hard to explain, but I let other people freak out. I handle it as calmly as I can and move on.

Go Cowboys.

Oh boy. He really posted this. lol

 

[superpunk]

Rivers isn't right either. Him and Romo have been abducted and replaced with alternate dimension Rivers and Romos. Don't be surprised if they both start growing goattees.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

4 playoff wins. Played AFC title game with a torn ACL.

And really, when was the last time he brain-farted a game away, a la Romo?




He threw a game ending INT. It happens. But like Rivers, he rarely makes those mistakes.


But hey, keep on believing bair

:midswat = :roythehammer

 

[Midswat]

I didn't see last nights game, but I'm assuming Rivers made a critical mistake at the end of the game?

I never said he never makes those mistakes. All QB's do. I said he rarely does.

Whereas Romo has a reputation of doing so.

Don't let the details get in the way of your funny.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

don't let the details of the game i didnt watch get in the way

 

[Theebs]

rivers has blown the pats, jets and chiefs games with his turnovers.

He still to me just like romo is an excellent player. Plus he has norv which is a huge asset. Romo is stuck with garrett and the same play every third snap.

next week when sd loses to GB they will be where they always are. 4-4 or just an average team. the difference is that for the second year in a row the other three teams are not complete push overs who allow the chargers to get in just because they are not flat horrible.

Haley has that thing rolling in KC and Oakland is much improved and physical with palmer set to help them.

 

[Midswat]

don't let the details of the game i didnt watch get in the way

I don't need to have watched last nights game to know that Rivers doesn't have a reputation for brain-farting games away.

 

[Midswat]

rivers has blown the pats, jets and chiefs games with his turnovers.

He still to me just like romo is an excellent player. Plus he has norv which is a huge asset. Romo is stuck with garrett and the same play every third snap.

next week when sd loses to GB they will be where they always are. 4-4 or just an average team. the difference is that for the second year in a row the other three teams are not complete push overs who allow the chargers to get in just because they are not flat horrible.

Haley has that thing rolling in KC and Oakland is much improved and physical with palmer set to help them.

Okay. Rivers is having a bad year.

Romo has these kinds of games year in and year out.

Again... think of each players reputation. End of discussion.

 

[Theebs]

Okay. Rivers is having a bad year.

Romo has these kinds of games year in and year out.

Again... think of each players reputation. End of discussion.

I called them both excellent players. Its a passing league, turnovers happen.

 

[Midswat]

I called them both excellent players. Its a passing league, turnovers happen.

For some QB's, they happen more than others.

 

[Theebs]

For some QB's, they happen more than others.

some have crutches, like the guy here has been forced to play with people who do not know their jobs as well as they should.

and having norv turner teach you the position is much much different than having jason garrett and wade wilson.

 

[peplaw06]

Okay. Rivers is having a bad year.

Romo has these kinds of games year in and year out.

Again... think of each players reputation. End of discussion.

What are you basing "reputation" off of?

 

[Cythim]

I'm more than certain Bob would run circles around you. I've had plenty of discussions with Bob, and I've seen enough of your posts to know that.
Don't confuse my lack of response to you as being dumbfounded. It's more comparable to me not responding to CCBoy over at CZ.... I don't see the point. But since you asked for it....

In the context of 2010, that's exactly what happened.
Always? Really?
...so not always?
So you're saying he sometimes tries to make the play and we get burned by it? Brilliant!!
Overcompensating for what? The huge lead we had? He just had to make it a close game huh? How ridiculous.
Really? No matter the situation huh? What play did he force against San Francisco? Washington? Let me guess... the plays Romo forces "no matter the situation" are the ones that result in an interception? Real perceptive there... For someone who forces the play no matter the situation, he sure has a good QB rating and winning percentage.

Here's a hint: If you want to have a real debate with me, forget the hyperbole.

Let's see...

Well, right away, this is a different comment than your "no matter the situation" bullshit you were spouting in your last brilliant post. Make up your mind.
I notice the first game you chose was one where Romo threw three picks. Shocking. It's also the only game of 2007 that you chose. Then again, we only lost 3 games, so you're gonna have a hard time proving that he forced plays no matter the situation and we ended up losing in 2007. Still you'd think there would be a plethora of games in your list every year, considering this type of thing happens "no matter the situation."

So which of Romo's play(s) directly impacted the outcome, and exactly how were they "forced?"

One game in 2008. And another one where Romo had 3 picks. I'll assume you're going to cite the pass to Witten as the one that was forced and lost us the game. I'm not going to argue that was a mistake. It obviously was. I will say, that the game was tied when that INT happened. So if you take that INT away, the game is still in doubt. But let's say I give you that one. OK, two full seasons of Romo starting down (29 games), and you have one.

First thing I notice is you already said he "stopped doing it in 2009." Curious as to why you would say that after you cited three games in the season?

Oh well, let's take a look anyway.

NYG - I'll ASSUME you're talking about the first game vs the Giants, since he had 3 picks, and that seems to be a trend here. The first pick, the Giants audibled out of Romo's pre-snap read and he didn't see Roy E's DB drop off underneath Crayton's out route. The second pick bounced off Witten's heel and into the hands of the DB who was 3 steps behind Witten. The third pick Romo clearly didn't see the Safety over the top. It's hard to say any of those were "forced."

DEN - He had one INT... Well at least we know you didn't just do a google search for "Romo 3 INT game." The interception that Bailey got was on a miscommunication between Romo and Austin. Looked like an option route. Austin had inside position on Bailey, if they had been on the same page, it would have been complete, and probably a TD. But I don't see how was it "forced..."

GB - OK, you're going to have to help me out on this one and point out on this game exactly which play Romo forced that lost us the game. This ought to be good.

I'm stuck on one so far. Three seasons down.



CHI - Uh yeah, help me out again. Which play(s) are you talking about?

TEN - Oh boy, back to a 3 INT game. The first pick was a ball to a wide-open Bennett in the end zone, who let it slip through his hands and popped up to be picked. The second one was to Bennett in the flat, and was tipped at the LOS, letting the DB cut in front of Bennett. And the last pick was when we were down 7 with :40 seconds left in the game. No fumbles. Which play are you referring to?

MIN - 2 INTs, no fumbles. First pick was tipped at the LOS. The second pick was to Witten, and Henderson dropped out of the LOS underneath to pick the pass. I'll give you a forced play on that one.

The INT to Revis was "forced." The pass to Witten against the Lions, I will give you. The Carpenter INT and the Houston pick on the Robinson slant, I wouldn't call forced.

My count is you've pointed out 4 plays since 2007.

God, I hope so. I mean, "no matter the situation," right? Please tell me you have more than what amounts to one play per season
The four significant ones?
Is that a question? You think Romo might have tried to give away the Carolina game? How so?
Brilliant!!

Yeah, you should. If you're going to make ridiculous comments, and try to defend them, then I want to be clear what you're referring to.
Like I said, he "directly impacts the outcome" of every game in which he plays.
All four times? Or are you just going to say Romo can't ever throw an interception in a loss? Just wondering if it's that you have a ridiculously high standard, or if you have judged Romo's career on four plays?
OK, the back foot thing is just retarded. You guys are basing that opinion off of one pass. If you want Romo to not throw the ball into coverage, you might as well put Captain Dink and Dunk Dilfer under center. And now it's Romo's fault if he throws the ball to a WR who doesn't fight for the ball?

These standards are just crazy.

Always done huh? When was that again?

Whatever you call it, you're not man enough to participate.

lol I'm sorry to have missed this gem of a response. I'll just leave you with a few things. Always as in forever, for a limitless time. Romo has never stopped forcing plays even if the frequency of forced plays has changed. I left you a list of games where it is easy to see his forced plays because they resulted in turnovers. Fortunately for us not every forced play is a turnover, how many times have we seen the defender drop an INT or seen the ball completely miss the intended target? Romo has always forced plays and will never stop.

Not man enough to participate? Hilarious that you think arguing on the internet is manly. You better let the mods validate your man card for you lol

 

[Midswat]

What are you basing "reputation" off of?

lol

What am I basing that reputation off of?

Probably the same thing everyone bases that reputation off of.

See Seattle, 2006. Giants, 2007. At Pittsburgh, vs Ravens, at Eagles 2008. At Minnesota, 2009. At Jets, vs Detroit 2011.

 

[peplaw06]

lol I'm sorry to have missed this gem of a response. I'll just leave you with a few things. Always as in forever, for a limitless time. Romo has never stopped forcing plays even if the frequency of forced plays has changed. I left you a list of games where it is easy to see his forced plays because they resulted in turnovers. Fortunately for us not every forced play is a turnover, how many times have we seen the defender drop an INT or seen the ball completely miss the intended target? Romo has always forced plays and will never stop.

Missed it... right

I figured you would shy away when called on it. You stick with that "always forced plays" yet you can't identify which plays from the games you cited were "forced."

Not man enough to participate? Hilarious that you think arguing on the internet is manly. You better let the mods validate your man card for you lol

Hilarious that you would call an internet debate a "pillow fight." Even more hilarious that you don't have the chops to participate in said "pillow fight" with anything more than cliches and generalities. Called out, and what do you do? Shy away.

 

[peplaw06]

lol

What am I basing that reputation off of?

Probably the same thing everyone bases that reputation off of.

See Seattle, 2006. Giants, 2007. At Pittsburgh, vs Ravens, at Eagles 2008. At Minnesota, 2009. At Jets, vs Detroit 2011.

It's a valid question. An athletes reputation is typically different from fan to fan. If you're talking about how a guy is portrayed in the media overall, then you'd probably be right. Romo's reputation is worse than Rivers's. But I usually don't take what the media is saying at face value, especially when it comes to the Cowboys.

Edit: Did Rivers really fumble a snap on a kneel down while getting in position for a game winning FG? Dude.