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I would say it starts with the soft mentality of the coach.

I understand that. I was talking about positions as in Oline, Dline, etc. But my point was is that it's clearly the Oline, and that starts with Hudson Houck. And yes, you can blame Wade as well.

Problem is that we have these overpriced OLD AND LAZY players, that create penalties. Bad influence on a young group. They are on average the eldest of the starters on this team and yet the most undisiciplined. I thought that we would have gotten better from cutting loose Adams from just the penalty standpoint alone.
 
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I'm tired of the camera going to Wade and him looking totally lost and confused out there. Like he doesn't seem to know how things are happening or why.

Reminds me almost like that "stick up my ass" look by Campo many years ago.
 

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I understand that. I was talking about positions as in Oline, Dline, etc. But my point was is that it's clearly the Oline, and that starts with Hudson Houck. And yes, you can blame Wade as well.

Problem is that we have these overpriced OLD AND LAZY players, that create penalties. Bad influence on a young group. They are on average the eldest of the starters on this team and yet the most undisiciplined. I thought that we would have gotten better from cutting loose Adams from just the penalty standpoint alone.

I was going to say across both lines. Both places that you're supposed to win battles, we're mentally weak. The defensive line isn't nearly as bad as the offensive line when it comes to penalties, but they get their share too.

Yeah, I'm over Houck and have been for the last two years. Generally this line waits to really fall apart until late in the year or the playoffs.
 

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Nice. We get to watch two borderline down syndrome people play in front of mom and dad.
 

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How sick is it that they both are Great'ish NFL Qbs?

Peyton is obviously Great, Eli is Borderline.
 

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Hell, I wonder if Archie is the stud to most of these QBs that have been coming through the NFL the last 10 years or so.
 

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Two weeks in a row I hvae been bent over in the fantasy leagues that I'm in. Not even close.
 

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Eli actually had a really good season last year. He had a 93.1 QBRating with 4021yds, 27tds, 14ints. The Giants were 8th in scoring and yards per game. His problem was the defense, they were 30th in points allowed.
 

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He wanted to throw it at the bench but it slipped outta his hand n flew about 10 rows back. Fing monkey Jacobs

Nice. I hate the guy. Glad to see him suffering. It'll keep him from talking. He'll run for 150 and 3tds when we play them, though.
 
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