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I'd like to track what. they cut and discover so can we keep all DOGE related content here:

DOGE Discovers USAID spent the following:

* $1.5 million - to advance DEI in Serbia workplaces
* $70,000 for a production of a DEI musical in Ireland
* $47,000 for a transgender opera in Columbia
* $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru

* David LeBrick, the highest ranking person in the treasury resigned rather than comply with DOGE to access to audit of where they spent trillions of dollar a year



 

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1 warning point to Yim for posting this in Cowboys football news area.

Edit- warning point rescinded because this is actually more interesting than Cowboys stuff
 

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Musk is uncovering waste and abuse, but he is also building the strongest argument to end the income tax, repeal the 16th amendment and give citizens back control of their own money.

The government should not be spending money on any foreign government, or private organization unless the people of this country get something in return.

There are well over 40,000 charities in America. Why do some get government handouts while other don't? Who decides the winners and losers? Why does Planned Parenthood get half a billion dollars while the NRA gets nothing? Why do Catholic charities get government handouts when churches are tax exempt?

All of this "charity", or money laundering, has to stop. All of it. Every penny of our tax dollars should be spent on running the government and no more. All this nonsense has gotten us $36 trillion in debt.
 

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I have a couple of thoughts on this. I don't know what gives Musk the authority to review these things. I've heard USAID was created by JFK via execvutive order. If that's the case, then it can be slashed by executive order. But if the spending was approved by Congress, I can see where this might be an issue. I've yet to read anything explaining this or with more clarrity.

Also, I have no doubt these items are for the intel community to spend like drunken whores. Their budget is probably hidden all over places like USAID. And I'd bet they find a ton more instances where we spend money on completely stupid shit. I've seen the propaganda media talking about this and claiming it's not all that much money relative to the budget. Fuck off....they should be asking the same questions we all are.

The melt down of the left is glorious but I'd be pretty pissed too if the Dems came in and started cutting shit approved by Congress because it didn't meat their DEI or leftist leanings.
 

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1 warning point to Yim for posting this in Cowboys football news area.

Edit- warning point rescinded because this is actually more interesting than Cowboys stuff

Thank you sir can I have another!

My bad, thanks for correcting, my head was spinning from too many browsers, tweets, texts, etc and didnt realize where I was posting
 

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I have a couple of thoughts on this. I don't know what gives Musk the authority to review these things. I've heard USAID was created by JFK via execvutive order. If that's the case, then it can be slashed by executive order. But if the spending was approved by Congress, I can see where this might be an issue. I've yet to read anything explaining this or with more clarrity.

Also, I have no doubt these items are for the intel community to spend like drunken whores. Their budget is probably hidden all over places like USAID. And I'd bet they find a ton more instances where we spend money on completely stupid shit. I've seen the propaganda media talking about this and claiming it's not all that much money relative to the budget. Fuck off....they should be asking the same questions we all are.

The melt down of the left is glorious but I'd be pretty pissed too if the Dems came in and started cutting shit approved by Congress because it didn't meat their DEI or leftist leanings.

The talking point I keep hearing is "Elon isnt an elected official, what the hell is he doing?! He cant "takeover" parts of the government with his "lackeys"---teenagers no less--GASP! and he has no business being able to see peoples private data (never-mind he & his "lackeys" were given security clearance)"

The irony is probably not one person within USAID is an elected official so they were either appointed or hired by a pervious administration.

So, you can work in the USAID department without being an elected official unless you're someone hired or appointed by the same process to hold USAID accountable and/or audit their spending.

Boy if that isnt government logic in a nutshell, I dont know what is
 

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I find it laughable that Dems complain Musk isnt an elected official but Bureaucrats arnt elected officials either are they?

And they are implementing all sorts of policies and regulations every day.
 

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I find it laughable that Dems complain Musk isnt an elected official but Bureaucrats arnt elected officials either are they?

And they are implementing all sorts of policies and regulations every day.

exactly (isn't that what I just said?)
 

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first episode of the DOGEcast with Vivek, Elon, Mike Lee and Joni Ernst, they're apparently going to do this every week, good stuff:



Elon and Vivek got along great with no hint of tension as alluded to by our illustrious press

Elon wants to remove the tyranny of the bureaucracy (which is unelected) and return it to the rule of the people. Wants. Feedback loop with the people not able to operate disconnected from the voting public

Examples of money not spent well:
* Sending cats to spas to see if they produce less fur balls
* shrimp on treadmills to see ho fast they run
* Millions of dollars sent to China to study COVID (through Eco Health because the gov isn’t allowed to fund this or China)

USAID = US Agency for the international development

Joni Ernst tried to find out how money is being spent within USAID:

*30-40% of USAIDs rewards go to indirect costs like rent
*lacks transparency
* Money isn’t going to the poor and starving
* spending is hard to trace because it has a vague line item classification line condoms to Gaza but obviously isn’t going toward that expense
* A USAID employee was using was falsely using an office supply retailers address in Virginia to defraud the taxpayer by claiming higher Washing DC locality pay while living in another state with the full knowledge of their supervisor. The USIG blew off Joni Ernsts effort to investigate

Elon says USAID isn’t an Apple with a worm in it, its just a ball of worms and needs to be destroyed. Its highly politically partisan leaning left. It doesnt answer to the public

Vivek points out that for those hand-ringing about removing government departments, the publics outrage can cause demand for whatever was removed to be reinstated

Sunshine is the best disinfectant out there

Only 6% of the federal workforce shows up in the office daily which causes a domino effect where government buildings are empty, surrounding business and restaurants have no customers and eventually everything starts to look like a ghost town

Apparently the US Engraving building (formally the US Mint), is virtually empty, the windows are broken and its turned into a homeless encampment—I couldn’t find anything online about this and Google Earth didn’t confirm

Elon thinks USAID should be shut down, Trump agreed which he confirmed multiple times by asking if he’s sure and Trump confirmed so apparently they’re going to try to shut down the USAID

Vivek is hopeful the REINS act will get passed in this current climate and administration

The REINS Act would return legislative power to Congress, check federal overreach, and ensure Americans have the tools needed to defend their rights. The REINS Act requires Congress to approve major federal agency rules and rules with an impact of $100M or more before they take effect.

Elon thinks the bond market doesn’t reflect the effect how the reduction in government spending will reduce the debt and its interest because less debt is needed (don’t short bonds, you’re on the wrong side). Vivek chimes in that this will also reduce interest rates creating an almost 2 for 1 savings by stopping inflation and interest rates because there is less competition for bonds (because the government isn’t competing with others for those bonds)

Elon points out that we’re going to go bankrupt if we don’t get our debt and spending under control

Senator Mike Lee chimes in and points out the government was never supposed to be so big, Elon concurs. Its supposed to be about a small number of things: Weights & measures, trademarks, copyrights, patents, regulating foreign commerce. The founders would have their bonds blown if they saw how gigantic the federal government has gotten and how its interfering in peoples lives in so many ways. Wants the REINS act passed

Elon and mike points out how the regulations are so vast, its like Gulliver tied down by millions of little strings that need to be cut so people are free to build, etc. Wants a wholesale removal of regulations, pretty much all of them and if that was too aggressive, bring back the most important. Vivek points out the states just compound the regulation problem by duplicating and adding their own.

Elon suggests at least removing Federal regulations so states can compete and people can move from state to state as they see fit and what serves their regulatory desires best

Elon talks about how America is a nation of builders and we need to remove the obstacles (regulations) to building. Vivek says deregulation and meritocracy go hand in hand

Elon hopes to reduce a trillion fro the deficit next year but need the president and congressional support and goes on to say that if they can reduce the 2 trillion deficit down to 1 trillion and get the economic growth to equal that 1 trillion deficit, there will be no inflation and prices will come down car payments and mortgage come down

Vivek pointed out that the federal government spent 7 Trillion last year, they spent 4.5 trillion in 2019, so if we could just get back to 2019 spending we’d be in great shape, the point is, cutting the deficit isn’t as hard as people think

During Covid there was a massive growth in waste and fraud in entitlement spending and its staggering, not just US fraud rings. Elon estimates 100-200 billion in foreign fraud schemes where the money is leaving the country. American entitlement programs fraud prevention is so weak that its rampant but he’s optimistic about reducing spending just by addressing waste fraud and abuse so it snot some insurmountable task. Elon mentions his Paypal experience for detecting and addressing fraud. Says the most upset and outraged people are usually the people committing fraud so when you hear the loudest complainers, they might be benefitting from the fraud DOGE is trying to put a stop to
 

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I have a couple of thoughts on this. I don't know what gives Musk the authority to review these things. I've heard USAID was created by JFK via execvutive order. If that's the case, then it can be slashed by executive order. But if the spending was approved by Congress, I can see where this might be an issue. I've yet to read anything explaining this or with more clarrity.

Also, I have no doubt these items are for the intel community to spend like drunken whores. Their budget is probably hidden all over places like USAID. And I'd bet they find a ton more instances where we spend money on completely stupid shit. I've seen the propaganda media talking about this and claiming it's not all that much money relative to the budget. Fuck off....they should be asking the same questions we all are.

The melt down of the left is glorious but I'd be pretty pissed too if the Dems came in and started cutting shit approved by Congress because it didn't meat their DEI or leftist leanings.

I don't think they have cut any spending yet. I believe all Trump did is freeze spending for a while. Musk has no authority to do anything other than identify. This transparency is long overdue. They are identifying billions of items that should never cost the taxpayers 1 dime. This is our money. We deserve to know in as much detail as we want where our money is going. This should be done annually, not once in a generation.

The lack of respect for the American taxpayers is criminal. We complain about the price of eggs jumping a dollar or two but where is the outrage over how much our taxes are costing us, and what that money is spending. Democrats love to talk about corporations price gouging. But the biggest gouger on the planet is our government. Before they add 1 penny to our tax bills, they need to justify every penny they are already spending.

For every billion in waste Musk identifies, that is costing every single person in America $3.00. If he finds $100 billion, that is the equivalent of $1200 per year for a family of four. My guess is he will find much more than $100 billion.
 

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All this talk about Musk using 19 year olds, and that 19 year olds cannot be experts on anything.

Remember when Pelosi and Democrats proposed allowing 16 year olds to vote?

How old was Greta Thunberg when she was an expert on Climate change? They paraded her all over the world allowing her to lecture us on Climate Change. I think she was 14 at the time.

And what about all the 19-22 year old college students protesting against Israel? Are they experts on mid-east policy?

Democrats have one solid constituency left which is youth. And here they are insulting them. Then again, maybe they are right, these young people can't possibly know what they are doing because by and large they support Democrats.
 

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I hope people are paying attention to what the DOGE team is finding and not all this other noise Democrats are making. What is clear is this country needed a DOGE team a long time ago. The amount of waste and abuse is astonishing. I knew it would be bad, but this exceeds my expectations by a lot. And it is not just the ridiculousness of the causes USAID supported. You know that there is so much money lining the pockets of the people involved. I certainly hope we get some arrests and convictions.
 

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"When you're getting a lot of flak, you know you're over the target. Bombs Away." -- George H. W. Bush.

He was right then and he is now, as applied to the vociferous outcry we're seeing over even the slightest bit of light getting shown on the corruption rampant in US government.
 

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wow....


‘No, I’m not kidding’: Elon Musk gives 23-year-old DOGE worker IT system access to department that manages U.S. nuclear arsenal​


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Elon Musk has given a 23-year-old DOGE employee access to the Energy Department’s IT systems despite alleged pushback from the department, which oversees the country’s nuclear weapon arsenal.

Since Donald Trump’s inauguration, Musk has relentlessly pushed himself and his so-called DOGE into every corner of the government. He forced his way into sensitive government information from USAID, putting the agency’s security chiefs on leave to do so. Additionally, he gained access to federal pay systems in the Treasury and student loan systems in the Department of Education, including the personal information of millions of Americans and students. It’s highly unusual for someone who is not part of an official government agency and who has not been elected to a cabinet position to gain the level of access to sensitive information that Musk has seized. Even more concerning is that Musk’s 19 – 26 year-old DOGE employees are accessing this information, too.


Musk has been suspiciously secretive about his DOGE employees, refusing to release many of their names and qualifications for their positions. There are concerns about how, or even if, he’s vetting these candidates. Given that one DOGE employee has already resigned after promoting racism and eugenics, Americans have reason to be concerned with who exactly Musk is giving access to classified government information, especially since they could potentially access information relating to nuclear weapons.

Elon Musk gives DOGE employee access to Energy Department’s IT systems​

There is no evidence that DOGE employees have access to nuclear secrets or information, but they may be getting uncomfortably close to that information. As reported by CNN, DOGE recently accessed the Energy Department’s IT systems. 23-year-old DOGE employee Luke Farritor, a former SpaceX intern, was granted access to the systems by Energy Secretary Chris Wright. However, two sources told CNN that the move was opposed by those within the department, including its “general counsel and chief information offices.”

Among its many functions, the Energy Department manages the nation’s nuclear stockpile through the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). Meanwhile, CNN‘s sources alleged that Farritor hadn’t received a standard background check and was not cleared to be in the department’s systems. TikTok reporter Aaron Parnas also shared the news of the 23-year-old’s access and had to remind viewers, “No, I’m not kidding.”

DOGE’s presence isn’t the only change in the Department of Energy. Energy CIO Dawn Zimmer was also quietly removed from her role and replaced with an engineer from Musk’s company, SpaceX. As of now, though, DOGE doesn’t appear to have significant access, as CNN reports Farritor gained only basic access to e-mail and Microsoft 365. Secretary Wright also disputed claims that Farritor wasn’t given a background check, insisting he knew precisely who the DOGE employees were and what they were doing.


Yet, the news hasn’t painted a positive picture of the vetting process at DOGE. In addition to Elez’s racist Tweets, Bloomberg reported that another DOGE employee, 19-year-old Edward Coristine, was previously fired from a cyber firm for allegedly leaking internal information to a competitor. One would think a basic background check would have caught this detail and rendered Coristine ineligible to work in a position where he’s accessing sensitive government information. These reports make it even more concerning that DOGE is getting dangerously close to nuclear information and seems interested in expanding its access to every department and system.
 
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