dbair1967

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In his defense, they did move him several weeks ago to ILB (a position he's never played) because of the injuries.

It was obviously a temorary move, but he isnt an ILB anyway and I'm sure it was tough fro him to adjust to.

He was also more of a down DE than OLB at Wake Forest. He flashed a ton of athletic ability though when he was asked to drop, but it isnt something he did extensively.

Just because he hasnt blossomed as a rookie doesnt mean he never will.
 

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I didn't like the pick, but I disagreed with the whole approach to the draft. I don't expect him to ever reach Victor Butler's level.
 
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Just because he hasnt blossomed as a rookie doesnt mean he never will.

I'm pretty sure since we took him in the fourth round, his career is pretty much doomed.

Here is a list of all our fourth round selections since 1994:

2012 Kyle Wilbur, Matt Johnson
2011 David Arkin
2010 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
2009 Stephen McGee, Victor Butler, Brandon Williams
2008 Tashard Choice
2007 Isiah Stanback, Doug Free
2006 Skyler Green
2005 Marion Barber, Chris Canty
2004 Bruce Thornton
2003 Brady James
2002 Jamar Martin
2001 Markus Steele
2000 Kareem Larimoore
1999 Wane McGarity, Peppi Zellner
1998 Michael Myers
1997 Antonio Anderson, Macy Brooks, Nicki Sualau
1996 none
1995 Eric Bjornson, Alundus Brice, Linc Hardin
1994 Willie Jackson, Dwayne Dotson


By my math, he has a 17% chance of being worth a shit. And that's assuming you consider Doug Free and Victor Butler to be worth a shit. Personally, I think they've done admirably considering their fourth round draft status.
 

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Could have been:

2012 Kyle Wilbur, Matt Johnson - Brandon Boykin(CB/KR), Josh Chapman(NT)
2011 David Arkin - Richard Sherman(CB)
2010 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah - Kam Chancellor(S)
2009 Stephen McGee, Victor Butler, Brandon Williams - Henry Melton(DE), Sammie Lee Hill(NT), Johnny Knox(WR)
2008 Tashard Choice - Brandon Carr
2007 Isiah Stanback, Doug Free - Paul Soliai(NT), Dashon Goldson(FS)
2006 Skyler Green - Elvis Dumervil(DE/OLB) the very next pick
 

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I wonder if Jerry has seen these figures and realizes who's fault they are.
 

Bob Sacamano

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Could have been:

2012 Kyle Wilbur, Matt Johnson - Brandon Boykin(CB/KR), Josh Chapman(NT)
2011 David Arkin - Richard Sherman(CB)
2010 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah - Kam Chancellor(S)
2009 Stephen McGee, Victor Butler, Brandon Williams - Henry Melton(DE), Sammie Lee Hill(NT), Johnny Knox(WR)
2008 Tashard Choice - Brandon Carr
2007 Isiah Stanback, Doug Free - Paul Soliai(NT), Dashon Goldson(FS)
2006 Skyler Green - Elvis Dumervil(DE/OLB) the very next pick

And

2011 Tyrone Smith - JJ Watt
 

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Yeah, they would. It's not like Tyrone is Trent Williams or anything.

Trent Williams is not even a starter on the Pro Bowl. This is his first Pro Bowl. And how long has he been in the l;eague and playing at LT compared to Williams?

No. Most teams would take Smith over Watt.
 
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