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at this point is Biden really doing anything?

Seems to me its the people behind the scenes running the show, I love to have a complete list of who they are
The list:

1) Barrack Hussein Obama
2) George Soros
 

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This is Called Fear Mongering...

“Putin is not going to stop at Ukraine,” President Biden said in a meeting with Macron and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Paris, pledging support for the Ukrainian cause.

“All of Europe will be threatened, we are not going to let that happen,” Biden told journalists during his state visit to France.

“The United States is standing strong with Ukraine."

So Russia isnt capable of overrunning a turd country like Ukraine but is somehow going to take over all of Europe?
 

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So Russia isnt capable of overrunning a turd country like Ukraine but is somehow going to take over all of Europe?

Russia doesn't want to attack Europe. That is absolute nonsense and just shows how incompetent Biden is as president. It also show that Democrats are once again relying on the ignorance of Americans to claim a righteous cause. The fact is, there is a long history between Ukraine and Russia and it has nothing to do with the rest of Europe. But Ukrainian history is not taught in US schools so Biden can be assured that no one knows what is really going on. Therefore, his lies will be accepted by at least half the American people.

Remember, Biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy decision for the last 40 years, according to a Obama administration official. And Obama said never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to f things up. This is what we are seeing in Ukraine.

America is not used to fighting wars on our own homeland. But Russia has the ability to strike targets in the US with conventional and nuclear munitions. Biden is playing a stupid and dangerous game with the lives of Americans.

And I still think Ukraine is blackmailing him. I think they have evidence of Biden's crimes and are holding it over his head in exchange for US money and military support. If Trump had succeeded in his investigation of Biden in Ukraine we may not have been in this position now.
 

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And I still think Ukraine is blackmailing him. I think they have evidence of Biden's crimes and are holding it over his head in exchange for US money and military support. If Trump had succeeded in his investigation of Biden in Ukraine we may not have been in this position now.
To the tune of billions and billions of dollars.

FOR NOTHING.
 

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You be the Judge of it...


Still makes me angry. My company had offices and data centers in 7 WTC. I only know one person hurt that day, a woman standing outside at a bus stop who was burned when fuel from the first plane pour down onto the street. My best friend worked in a building just North of the WTC . The fire department, at first, made everyone in that building stay in the building. It wasn't until later they were told to evacuate up the West side. He told me stories of watching people jumping out of the North tower to their deaths. Just an awful day.
 

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Zelensky also addressed the German parliament, where his speech was boycotted by two parties including the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), whose support surged in European elections last weekend.

Speaking alongside Scholz and Zelensky, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced agreements worth 1.4 billion euros ($1.5 billion) with banks to help attract private investment for Ukraine.

She also said the EU would itself deliver 1.9 billion euros to Ukraine by the end of the month, and that Kyiv would benefit from interest income from frozen Russian assets.


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Somehow, I fear the American Taxpayer is on the hook, under the table so to speak, for most of this "money."
 

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To the tune of billions and billions of dollars.

FOR NOTHING.

Can you (or anyone) post the video of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold money from Ukraine if they didnt do something he wanted (forgot what it was)?
 

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Can you (or anyone) post the video of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold money from Ukraine if they didnt do something he wanted (forgot what it was)?
I'm sure Big Tech has gone to great lengths to bury that or make it disappear altogether, but I'll do some digging. It was definitely available at one time.
 

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found it:



if the article below is correct, it doesnt sound like a bad thing (We damn well better be leveraging the money we give these countries to get what we want).

So it appears the claim is that Joe was leveraging the money to get them to stop coming after Biden son but apparently not true whereas as Trump used leverage to try and get them to investigate Biden

Please post if you have evidence to the contrary

While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.

Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.

"VP Biden threatened to withhold 1 billion dollars from Ukraine to save his son's job," reads a meme posted to Facebook by Secure America Now. The meme has been shared more than 9,000 times since Oct. 18.

It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians.

As European and American diplomats pressed Ukraine to clean up its corruption, they focused on Shokin's leadership of the Prosecutor General's Office, which he took over in February 2015.

Mike Carpenter, who served as a foreign policy adviser to the then-vice president, told USA TODAY that Shokin "never went after any corrupt individuals at all" and "never prosecuted any high-profile cases of corruption."
 

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Be the judge of what? Their reactions? I'm halfway through so maybe I'm not getting it yet...
I guess be the judge of whether 9/11 was staged, or not.
I don't know what I think about it.
I've heard many Conspiracy theories over the decades.
 
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I guess be the judge of whether 9/11 was staged, or not.
I don't know what I think about it.
I've heard many Conspiracy theories over the decades.

I could never muster up enough faith in our incompetent government to pull this off, much less everyone involved keep quiet about it
 

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Yemen’s Houthi rebels late on Wednesday attacked a commercial ship in the Red Sea with a “drone boat”, authorities said, the latest escalation despite a US-led campaign trying to protect the vital waterway. A senior Hamas leader insisted that the amendments the group has suggested for a Gaza ceasefire proposal presented by the United States are “not significant” after Washington said some of the changes are unworkable.

 

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Can you (or anyone) post the video of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold money from Ukraine if they didnt do something he wanted (forgot what it was)?
He demanded the president of Ukraine fire their equivalent of the Attorney General. Viktor Shokin was investigating Burisma for corruption. The story is The US and European allies believe Shokin was dragging his feet and not investigating corruption in the right places. It is a bizarre story. Why ask for the prosecutor to be fired when the whole country was known to be corrupt? And why would we think the president wouldn't just hire another corrupt prosecutor?

Since this incident, evidence has been uncovered that Shokin was investigating corruption, Burisma wanted him fired because he was getting too close, and Biden acted unilaterally, that US state department officials were taken by surprise when Biden demanded Shokin's firing. In other words, firing him was not US policy. Ask yourself, has there been another case anywhere in the world where we demanded a prosecutor general be fired like that?
 

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Maybe I missed it....but when did the title of the thread change and when did Russia declare WWIII?
Well, the Left and the UniParty say that we have to keep fighting Russia through Ukraine, because Russia could start WWIII any minute now!!!
 
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