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http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people-homes-1390056183

Earlier this month, Hawaii State representative Tom Bower (D) began walking the streets of his Waikiki district with a sledgehammer, and smashing shopping carts used by homeless people. “Disgusted” by the city’s chronic homelessness problem, Bower decided to take matters into his own hands — literally. He also took to rousing homeless people if he saw them sleeping at bus stops during the day.



Bower’s tactics were over the top, and so unpopular that he quickly declared “Mission accomplished,” and retired his sledgehammer. But Bower’s frustration with his city’s homelessness problem is just an extreme example of the frustration that has led cities to pass measures that effective deal with the homeless by criminalizing homelessness.



•City council members in Columbia, South Carolina, concerned that the city was becoming a “magnet for homeless people,” passed an ordinance giving the homeless the option to either relocate or get arrested. The council later rescinded the ordinance, after backlash from police officers, city workers, and advocates.
•Last year, Tampa, Florida — which had the most homeless people for a mid-sized city — passed an ordinance allowing police officers to arrest anyone they saw sleeping in public, or “storing personal property in public.” The city followed up with a ban on panhandling downtown, and other locations around the city.
•Philadelphia took a somewhat different approach, with a law banning the feeding of homeless people on city parkland. Religious groups objected to the ban, and announced that they would not obey it.
•Raleigh, North Carolina took the step of asking religious groups to stop their longstanding practice of feeding the homeless in a downtown park on weekends. Religious leaders announced that they would risk arrest rather than stop.

This trend makes Utah’s accomplishment even more noteworthy. In eight years, Utah has quietly reduced homelessness by 78 percent, and is on track to end homelessness by 2015.

How did Utah accomplish this? Simple. Utah solved homelessness by giving people homes. In 2005, Utah figured out that the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail stays for homeless people was about $16,670 per person, compared to $11,000 to provide each homeless person with an apartment and a social worker. So, the state began giving away apartments, with no strings attached. Each participant in Utah’s Housing First program also gets a caseworker to help them become self-sufficient, but they keep the apartment even if they fail. The program has been so successful that other states are hoping to achieve similar results with programs modeled on Utah’s.

It sounds like Utah borrowed a page from Homes Not Handcuffs, the 2009 report by The National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty and The National Coalition for the Homeless. Using a 2004 survey and anecdotal evidence from activists, the report concluded that permanent housing for the homeless is cheaper than criminalization. Housing is not only more human, it’s economical.

This happened in a Republican state! Republicans in Congress would probably have required the homeless to take a drug test before getting an apartment, denied apartments to homeless people with criminal records, and evicted those who failed to become self-sufficient after five years or so. But Utah’s results show that even conservative states can solve problems like homelessness with decidedly progressive solutions.
 

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This is flawed. There are no ER costs. Health care is free for them. They just need to head down to the tax payer provided library and sign up on Healthcare.gov.
 

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That Tom Bower seems like a real asshole.

A bit unstable. This is the actual guy smashing homeless carts.

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Why not get a truck to pick them up? Or tell everyone they are welcome to pick them up and take them to the scrap yard?
 
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Hawaii State representative Tom Bower (D) began walking the streets of his Waikiki district with a sledgehammer, and smashing shopping carts used by homeless people. “Disgusted” by the city’s chronic homelessness problem, Bower decided to take matters into his own hands — literally. He also took to rousing homeless people if he saw them sleeping at bus stops during the day.

What a fucking moron.
 
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So I should just move to Utah, get homeless, and never worry about paying rent again? Sign me the fuck up.

Another pathetic move.
 
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So I should just move to Utah, get homeless, and never worry about paying rent again? Sign me the fuck up.

Another pathetic move.

THAT WAS THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE'S GAME ALL ALONG. MOVE TO SOMEWHERE WITH BRUTAL WINTERS, ROUGH IT FOR A FEW YEARS, LOSE THEIR MINDS AND THEIR TEETH ALL SO THEY COULD HOODWINK THE GOVERNMENT INTO GIVING THEM AN APARTMENT

are you people fucking serious
 

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The problem is when does this program end? Homelessness will end in 2015, or will a ever larger group of people be "homeless" and live in free government housing. Utah already has the highest per capita rates of welfare fraud and government dependence.
 
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THAT WAS THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE'S GAME ALL ALONG. MOVE TO SOMEWHERE WITH BRUTAL WINTERS, ROUGH IT FOR A FEW YEARS, LOSE THEIR MINDS AND THEIR TEETH ALL SO THEY COULD HOODWINK THE GOVERNMENT INTO GIVING THEM AN APARTMENT

are you people fucking serious
I didn't say that.

What I am saying, is that it sets a precedent for that sort of thing. I'm sure there are lots of people who would just get evicted and not worry about improving their situation because they know an apartment is coming.

A few months of hard times for a free place to live the rest of your life? Pretty good trade if you ask me.
 

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The problem is when does this program end? Homelessness will end in 2015, or will a ever larger group of people be "homeless" and live in free government housing. Utah already has the highest per capita rates of welfare fraud and government dependence.

I wonder where these homes and apartments come from? Who built them, who owns them, and how is the government able to take them and use them in this social experiment? I wonder what the true opportunity costs are. It does not seem like a sustainable idea to me. No requirements to stay, just come over and get a free place to live. Not sure this is going to work well in the long run. The war on poverty has failed miserably in this country despite transferring trillions of dollars to people that did not earn it. Giving stuff away does not seem to be a reasonable solution.

Getting people to a place where they can be functional would seem to make more sense.
 

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I was thinking about this again and I believe this could work in NYC. Lets give the homeless the UN complex.
 

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They make people on welfare work in NYC like sweep streets and pick up trash. Watch "Guiliani Time" if you have Amazon. It's no longer on Netflix but it might be on Amazon. NYC was zoo before Guiliani took over. The guy was like Hitler but he turned it around. No more begging, street artwork, singing, windshield washers, etc.
 

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I was thinking about this again and I believe this could work in NYC. Lets give the homeless the UN complex.

I keep wondering what NYC and NY state will be like when they run out all the hard working rich people and their money, and don't have those people's dollars to throw around for their painfully stupid welfare programs.

Same goes for California. I really don't know why anyone with money would want to reside in either of those fucking backwards run states with sky high tax rates.
 
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