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Top Five Worst Obamacare Taxes Coming in 2013

Of the twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare, below are the five worst that will be foisted upon Americans for the first time on January 1, 2013.


Of the twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare, below are the five worst that will be foisted upon Americans for the first time on January 1, 2013:

The Obamacare Medical Device Tax – a $20 billion tax increase: Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. Obamacare imposes a new 2.3 percent excise tax on gross sales – even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. In addition to killing small business jobs and impacting research and development budgets, this will increase the cost of your health care – making everything from pacemakers to prosthetics more expensive.

The Obamacare “Special Needs Kids Tax” – a $13 billion tax increase: The 30-35 million Americans who use a Flexible Spending Account (FSA) at work to pay for their family’s basic medical needs will face a new government cap of $2,500 (currently the accounts are unlimited under federal law, though employers are allowed to set a cap).

There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are several million families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare tax provision will limit the options available to these families.

The Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income – a $123 billion tax increase: This is a new, 3.8 percentage point surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income:

Capital Gains


Dividends


Other*




2012


15%


15%


35%




2013+ (current law)


23.8%


43.4%


43.4%


The table above also incorporates the scheduled hike in the capital gains rate from 15 to 20 percent, and the scheduled hike in dividends rate from 15 to 39.6 percent.

The Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deductions – a $15.2 billion tax increase: Currently, those Americans facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). This tax increase imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. By limiting this deduction, Obamacare widens the net of taxable income for the sickest Americans. This tax provision will most harm near retirees and those with modest incomes but high medical bills.

The Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike -- an $86.8 billion tax increase: The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Under this tax hike, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate instead. This is a direct marginal income tax hike on small business owners, who are liable for self-employment tax in most cases. The table below compares current law vs. the Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike:


First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee


All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee

Current Law


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

Obamacare Tax Hike


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed


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Posted by John Kartch on Friday, September 28, 2012 2:58 PM EDT


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It would help if he would reference specific sections of the article itself rather than just saying it's there.

I'm actually trying to read some of his points and look to see what others have said about them and it's almost fucking impossible because he's not referring to any specific sections.

Looked at his “Special Needs Kids Tax” section though cause I had a couple thoughts on it.

From what I can find, he's wrong in his application. The FSA cap does not apply to dependent care FSAs so any person with a child under the age of 13 or caring for a child or an adult who is mentally or physically impaired will not be subject to the cap for that FSA.

Here's a summary of the IRS clarification.

http://beyondhealthcarereform.com/2012/06/new-guidance-on-health-fsa-contribution-limits/

Application. The $2,500 limit only applies to salary-reduction contributions under a health FSA. The new limit does not apply to a dependent or adoption care FSA, a health savings account (HSA), or a health reimbursement arrangement (HRA). In addition, certain employer “flex credits” to a health FSA are not covered by the new limit. Finally, the $2,500 limit is the maximum contribution that each employee may make for the year, regardless of whether the employee has a spouse or dependents whose expenses are also reimbursed through his or her health FSA.

Here's how the IRS defines dependent care.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p503.pdf

1. Your qualifying child who is your dependent and who was under age 13 when the care was provided (but may be reduced or disallowed. see Note later)

2. Your spouse who was not physically or mentally able to care for himself or herself and lived with you for more than half the year,

3. A person who was not physically or mentally able to care for himself or herself, lived with you for more than half the year, and either:
 

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So David, are you willing to cut Medicare/Social security or any of the entitlements Boomers have voted themselves?

Or do you actually want to be responsible and pay for your shit?
 

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So David, are you willing to cut Medicare/Social security or any of the entitlements Boomers have voted themselves?

Or do you actually want to be responsible and pay for your shit?

Your man O is the only person who is (and in fact did) cut Medicare

But to answer your question, I'm in favor of doing whatever is necessary to sustain the programs for the long term, something niether is assured of in its present state.

Privatizing SS would be a great move IMO. I'm 44 and am pretty much resolved to the idea that I wont ever see a dime of any of the money I have paid into this.
 

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Your man O is the only person who is (and in fact did) cut Medicare

But to answer your question, I'm in favor of doing whatever is necessary to sustain the programs for the long term, something niether is assured of in its present state.

Privatizing SS would be a great move IMO. I'm 44 and am pretty much resolved to the idea that I wont ever see a dime of any of the money I have paid into this.

I think Medicare violates equal protection and I didn't vote for Obama nor have I supported either party for a long time. But you want to not only eliminate SS but you want to 'give' the equity to private firms?
 

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I think Medicare violates equal protection and I didn't vote for Obama nor have I supported either party for a long time. But you want to not only eliminate SS but you want to 'give' the equity to private firms?

If Medicare were ran properly, it'd probably work. But its not.

I didnt say to eliminate SS, I said I'd like to see it privatized. That way more money is CREATED, and thus, the program would be safer long term.
 

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I haven't payed much attention to the privatization of SS (because it seems like far-fetched nonsense to me) but I have a question:

The government borrows against things like SS because they can, and I have no idea how much they owe the system. What are it's advocates plans for paying back that money should we move to privatize the system?
 

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I do not like privatizing social security. If people were competant enough to plan for their own retirement we wouldn't need social security in the first place.

I do think it needs to be cut. Baby boomers will have taken 2 dollars for every dollar thy paid to government. That is not sustainable, with it being such a large generation it is almost enough to break us all by itself.

They got the greatest generation, we get saddled with the baby boomers.
 

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If Medicare were ran properly, it'd probably work. But its not.

I didnt say to eliminate SS, I said I'd like to see it privatized. That way more money is CREATED, and thus, the program would be safer long term.

You privatize it by giving it over to private firms. Giving it over to the individual is eliminating it.

Medicare on a cost basis works better than private market. It's cheaper and as good or better on the health metrics. It's not funded properly and it's only available to a bunch of people that ran up debt and cut taxes for 30 years and are now riding off into the sunset on a gravy train.
 

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You privatize it by giving it over to private firms. Giving it over to the individual is eliminating it.

Medicare on a cost basis works better than private market. It's cheaper and as good or better on the health metrics. It's not funded properly and it's only available to a bunch of people that ran up debt and cut taxes for 30 years and are now riding off into the sunset on a gravy train.
I believe medicare is 22% of the federal budget, and my understanding is that states match 2/3rds of that. So I am confused on how exactly it is not funded properly...
 

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I believe medicare is 22% of the federal budget, and my understanding is that states match 2/3rds of that. So I am confused on how exactly it is not funded properly...

I definitely agree that the accounting is ambiguous. At the end of the day revenue is much short of expenses.
 

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Medicare on a cost basis works better than private market. It's cheaper and as good or better on the health metrics. It's not funded properly and it's only available to a bunch of people that ran up debt and cut taxes for 30 years and are now riding off into the sunset on a gravy train.

you keep spewing that, but it isnt true
 
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