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From control standpoint, I think the address should be added by the person filling out the ballot on the inside of the ballot in ink in one of those computer generated type forms and it must match the address on the voter registration so when the ballot passes through the machine it reads the address and the bar code and verifies the two addresses match.

That would render the RA on the envelope moot, no?

In the event blank ballots are printed and sent willy-nilly to everyone then this wouldn't be possible but it seems to me you could still control the validity of the ballot by requiring all the information to match the voter registration which would make it more difficult for fraud because someone would have to have a list of registered voters and then gamble on who may or may not vote in person.

If there are properly created checks and balances someone could print mail-in ballots and they'd be very safe but the question is in my mind is whether these exist and if so, what are they?

At the very least if the news was worth a shit they could do a comprehensive analysis of our voting system, state by state in extreme detail and point out the pros and cons but I'm sure they don't because the average TV viewer wouldn't watch

Spot on Yimmy. Absentee voting has been around for years with no issue. Go on-line, provide your identifiers, request a ballot and vote. We only changed it, using Covid as an excuse, to flood the counry with mail in ballots. The system is ripe for fraud and there's a reason it's banned in other countries. What we're seeing now is an absolute disgrace.
 

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You do understand that the actual conspiracy theory is that Trump won the election right?

The burden of proof was on the Kraken

Today was her big day in court to prove her conspiracy theory

She stated that Trump won in a landslide and that she had the evidence to prove it

She stated that there was widespread voter fraud and that she had the evidence to prove it

She stated x, y, and z....

She made many, many, many, many claims of different types of voter fraud and said that she had the evidence to prove it and that she would prove it in court and that she would overturn the election

She filed her lawsuits

She had her day in court

She failed to prove even one single claim of fraud or anything else for that matter

And by the way, the whole claim that she wouldn’t stake her stellar reputation on this case if she didn’t have the evidence to prove it.....

Well she did
And she showed up to court with zero evidence apparently

We (as in the Trump supporters and loyalists and I include myself in that group) were promised proof that the election was stolen

Today the Kraken proved that she had zero actual evidence. She proved that all she has are theories, and circumstantial evidence that doesn’t add up to a pile of horseshit.
Being disingenuously told "you didn't file this in time" has fuck all to do with anything having to do with evidence.
 

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Being disingenuously told "you didn't file this in time" has fuck all to do with anything having to do with evidence.

Being disingenuously told "you didn't file this in time" has fuck all to do with anything having to do with evidence.

And not having any evidence has fuck all to do with winning a case

you should read the actual article

She didn’t just lose the case because she filed it too late

She ALSO lost the case because she filed it too late

The main reason she lost the cases (plural) is because she didn’t have any actual evidence to prove any of her claims

In either case

In either state
 

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the Kraken

Today was her big day in court
Seems like every time someone evokes that fictional mythical creature, it winds up being just that - fictional and mythical. What Cowboys player promised to "release the kraken" and nothing happened? Maybe he and Powell should hook up.
 

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Seems like every time someone evokes that fictional mythical creature, it winds up being just that - fictional and mythical. What Cowboys player promised to "release the kraken" and nothing happened? Maybe he and Powell should hook up.

At least the Kraken got a few sacks and slightly delivered

Powell just left a giant floater swirling around the toilet bowl where here evidence was supposed to be
 

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Did you read either of the affidavits that were filed?

I did not read the actual affidavits themselves. I may have heard the details of them during the pre-trial work up. No way To be sure. I watched a ton of the pre-trial footage so it’s hard to tell them apart.
But I would be willing and happy to read them if you have the links to the ones you are talking about

I did however read that Wayne County Judge Timothy Kenny said that the two affidavits provided “no basis” for ordering an independent audit or issuing an injunction against certification of the election results.

While searching for the two affidavits I came across this article which talks about some of the issues/mistakes/blunders/screw ups that have occurred with Powell’s court cases. For someone with as much prestige as she is supposed to have this article makes her team seem inept.

 
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Breitbart - The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution

Dodger12 now you see states fighting back and Texas is taking the lead.

The Texas lawsuit is based on the Constitution and if the justices of the SCOTUS follow the Constitution then Texas should win this 9-0. Of course the best we can hope for is a 5-4 ruling but Texas has the Constitution on its side in this. I am not sure why they did not file this earlier but I thank the leaders of this amazing state for doing this.
 
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And not having any evidence has fuck all to do with winning a case

you should read the actual article

She didn’t just lose the case because she filed it too late

She ALSO lost the case because she filed it too late

The main reason she lost the cases (plural) is because she didn’t have any actual evidence to prove any of her claims

In either case

In either state
If it wasn't tossed because it was filed too late, then why is that included in the "reasoning" for refusal to hear the case?

Why isn't the claim that there's no evidence enough to just leave it at that?

How can anyone make a credible claim that the case was "filed too late" when the time frame involved here is a matter of mere days and weeks?

Maybe you don't know stink when you smell it, but I do,
 

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I did not read the actual affidavits themselves. I may have heard the details of them during the pre-trial work up. No way To be sure. I watched a ton of the pre-trial footage so it’s hard to tell them apart.
But I would be willing and happy to read them if you have the links to the ones you are talking about

I did however read that Wayne County Judge Timothy Kenny said that the two affidavits provided “no basis” for ordering an independent audit or issuing an injunction against certification of the election results.

While searching for the two affidavits I came across this article which talks about some of the issues/mistakes/blunders/screw ups that have occurred with Powell’s court cases. For someone with as much prestige as she is supposed to have this article makes her team seem inept.


The idea that there is no evidence really doesn't hold water. There's plenty of evidence that dead people voted, as well as people from out of state and ineligible voters. Read the affidavits, not what ideologues tell you. The courts may not want to take up the issues raised and may think the remedy is too harsh but there is definitely evidence.
 

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Dodger12 now you see states fighting back and Texas is taking the lead.

The Texas lawsuit is based on the Constitution and if the justices of the SCOTUS follow the Constitution then Texas should win this 9-0. Of course the best we can hope for is a 5-4 ruling but Texas has the Constitution on its side in this. I am not sure why they did not file this earlier but I thank the leaders of this amazing state for doing this.

This should be a 9 -0 decision but it won't be. Just like the restrictions on churches was split 5 - 4. These people are ideologues, not impartial judges interpreting the Constitution. It will be interesting if Biden is confirmed and the Dems take the Senate. What will these states do if the Dems move forward with packing the SCOTUS?
 

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The idea that there is no evidence really doesn't hold water. There's plenty of evidence that dead people voted, as well as people from out of state and ineligible voters. Read the affidavits, not what ideologues tell you. The courts may not want to take up the issues raised and may think the remedy is too harsh but there is definitely evidence.
Maybe our idea of plenty of evidence and the courts idea of plenty of evidence are different. Because the court cases yesterday were the Kraken's opportunity to present said evidence. She did.

The court determined it wasn't enough to move forward with the case.

So two separate judges looked at Powells evidence in two separate states and ruled separately that there wasn't enough evidence to move forward in either case.

The Kraken promised us all that there was enough evidence to prove the election was stolen, that Trump won in a landslide by MILIIONS of votes, that voter fraud was rampant in all the swing states (not to mention the rest of the country, but we will focus on the swing states for now) She stated that she had signed affidavits to prove all of this, witnesses to every type of voter fraud you can think of....

blah blah blah...

she had her day in court

Powell failed to provide enough evidence for the judge to even move forward with her case, not once, but twice, in two states, with two separate judges, that both came to the same conclusion.

Did she forget her evidence at home? Did her dog eat her evidence? Or is possible that the evidence she promised she had was not as strong and convincing as she made us all believe it was?

This is taken from an article on the court ruling and speaks directly to the evidence presented.

"U.S. District Judge Linda V. Parker also pointed out that Trump voters who claim to have witnessed vote-switching or counting of improper ballots by poll workers and whose affidavits Powell submitted as evidence used words like “believe” and “may” to equivocate.

“A belief is not evidence,” the judge said."
 

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If it wasn't tossed because it was filed too late, then why is that included in the "reasoning" for refusal to hear the case?

Why isn't the claim that there's no evidence enough to just leave it at that?

How can anyone make a credible claim that the case was "filed too late" when the time frame involved here is a matter of mere days and weeks?

Maybe you don't know stink when you smell it, but I do,
Why are you obsessed with the filing too late portion of the rejection and COMPLETELY IGNORING the real issue which was the inability of Sydney Powell's team to provide enough convincing evidence to force the court to hear either case?

Even if she filed in time the same exact result would have been achieved by her. Her failure to provide the evidence she promised to have lost her these cases, not the time frame in which she filed them.

And before you start screaming but Russia Russia Russia again, you need to get over that shit

She had her day in court

she presented her tidal wave of evidence to the judge

and she (sorry, they as in two judges in two separate courts in two separate court cases in two separate states) determined it wasn't enough to move forward with either of the cases. It's that simple
 

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Maybe our idea of plenty of evidence and the courts idea of plenty of evidence are different. Because the court cases yesterday were the Kraken's opportunity to present said evidence. She did.

The court determined it wasn't enough to move forward with the case.

So two separate judges looked at Powells evidence in two separate states and ruled separately that there wasn't enough evidence to move forward in either case.

The Kraken promised us all that there was enough evidence to prove the election was stolen, that Trump won in a landslide by MILIIONS of votes, that voter fraud was rampant in all the swing states (not to mention the rest of the country, but we will focus on the swing states for now) She stated that she had signed affidavits to prove all of this, witnesses to every type of voter fraud you can think of....

blah blah blah...

she had her day in court

Powell failed to provide enough evidence for the judge to even move forward with her case, not once, but twice, in two states, with two separate judges, that both came to the same conclusion.

Did she forget her evidence at home? Did her dog eat her evidence? Or is possible that the evidence she promised she had was not as strong and convincing as she made us all believe it was?

This is taken from an article on the court ruling and speaks directly to the evidence presented.

"U.S. District Judge Linda V. Parker also pointed out that Trump voters who claim to have witnessed vote-switching or counting of improper ballots by poll workers and whose affidavits Powell submitted as evidence used words like “believe” and “may” to equivocate.

“A belief is not evidence,” the judge said."

Blah....blah...blah is right. When I hear these things from judges, I just write it off. There's plenty of evidence, from poll workers being kicked out of the battleground election venues to veteran poll workers providing statements to what they witnessed. You should be so lucky to have a case where 1000 plus witnesses give you a statement.

In addition, I read what judges write and come to my own conclusions. I don't rely solely on Politico or anyone else. When a judge makes the following statement, it's absurd in and of itself. In other words, the elections are concluded so you have no standing:

"This case represents well the phrase: “this ship has sailed.” The time has passed to provide most of the relief Plaintiffs request in their Amended Complaint; the remaining relief is beyond the power of any court. For those reasons, this
matter is moot."

In addition:

"C. Laches
Defendants argue that Plaintiffs are unlikely to succeed on the merits because they waited too long to knock on the Court’s door. (ECF No. 31 at Pg ID 2175-79; ECF No. 39 at Pg ID 2844.) The Court agrees."

"If Plaintiffs had legitimate claims regarding whether the treatment of election challengers complied with state law, they could have brought their claims well in advance of or on Election Day—but they did not........"

"If Plaintiffs had legitimate concerns about the election machines and software, they could have filed this lawsuit well before the 2020 General Election—yet they sat back and did nothing."

In other words, you should have filed your challenge before the fraud occurred and had no evidence. A proverbial catch 22.

"Plaintiffs could have lodged their constitutional challenges much sooner than they did, and certainly not three weeks after Election Day and one week after certification of almost three million votes. The Court concludes that Plaintiffs’
delay results in their claims being barred by laches."

In other words, you have no time to collect evidence, interview witnesses and conduct any sort of investigation. Three (3) weeks is just too long. This reasoning is just absurd.

You can rely on politically appointed judges to do your thinking, I'll believe what my eyes tell me.
 
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