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AP and FOX News have both called PA's Senate seat for MAGA Dave McCormick

Also, Newsmax has R's now at 216 seats, 204 for Dems. Only 15 seats remaining and R's have leads in 4 of them.
 

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When I first saw this, I thought it was interesting. Not so much after looking into it more.

The first problem is, it's comparing complete data to incomplete data. There are still a ton of uncounted votes that haven't been added to the totals yet. When you factor those in, the difference in overall votes from 2020 to 2024 will be pretty small (1 million or so).

The second problem is, if it's being used to point to fraud, you'd expect some clear differences in the individual states that swung 2020. It's not there.
 

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When I first saw this, I thought it was interesting. Not so much after looking into it more.

The first problem is, it's comparing complete data to incomplete data. There are still a ton of uncounted votes that haven't been added to the totals yet. When you factor those in, the difference in overall votes from 2020 to 2024 will be pretty small (1 million or so).

The second problem is, if it's being used to point to fraud, you'd expect some clear differences in the individual states that swung 2020. It's not there.
First, Define "a ton"

Second, it gets even worse when you go further back. In 2004 Kerry got just under 60 million. In 2008 you had the first man of color on the ticket. He got 69 million that year, in his re-election he got 65 million. In 2016 you had the first woman and she got 65 million. 2008 and 2016 were expected to be record turnouts because of that, and it was quite high.

But there IS a very consistent number when you go back to 2004. There's one outlier year and it was the one that had arguably the two worst candidates paired together, ever. Both were incredibly unpopular even within their own party.

Time to see the forest for the trees buddy.
 
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Yimmy, you pimped this guy hard and I hope he has a big seat at the table and a future in the party. This never gets old.......

 

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Trump has absoluetly reshaped the party and I firmly believe very few, if any, could have done it. He's brought in minorities and different ethnicities. He has the world on his side. And look at how deep the bench is......If Trump can keep his promises and get his vision passed, I can see Vance/Vivek in 2028. Redneck and Indian American. This is what America is all about. And goodbye DeSantis....you could have been a contender but you folded when the country and party needed a leader........
 

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First, Define "a ton"

Second, it gets even worse when you go further back. In 2004 Kerry got just under 60 million. In 2008 you had the first man of color on the ticket. He got 69 million that year, in his re-election he got 65 million. In 2016 you had the first woman and she got 65 million. 2008 and 2016 were expected to be record turnouts because of that, and it was quite high.

But there IS a very consistent number when you go back to 2004. There's one outlier year and it was the one that had arguably the two worst candidates paired together, ever. Both were incredibly unpopular even within their own party.

Time to see the forest for the trees buddy.
About 15 million or so?

California still has about 7.5 million by itself. A couple others are around a million. A few half a million+, then 40+ other states with smaller amounts.

In the end, it'll be like 158 million votes in 2020, and 157 million in 2024.
 

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Watch all the rats on both sides scatter and oppose this. Republicans control the Hosue and Senate. Get it done. It's why we despise politicians.
I have no doubt career Rinos will oppose it, just like most (if not all Dems)

But they are on the record at that point. Congress is up for re-elections every two years. There are 33 Senate seats up in 2026 and 34 more in 2028. Every time they do polling on term limits, a clear majority of the population says they support it. MANY of those that vote against it will get dumped.

It's a brilliant strategy by Trump, now he just needs to force the vote on it.
 

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About 15 million or so?

California still has about 7.5 million by itself. A couple others are around a million. A few half a million, then 40+ other states with smaller amounts.

In the end, it'll be like 158 million votes in 2020, and 157 million in 2024.
We can bet on that if you'd like.

California almost assuredly does not have 7 1/2 million more votes to count. There's a pretty large number of voting eligible people that left the state the last two years. They might have 4 or 5 mils more, if that. Pretty much all of the most populous states have 98-99% of the votes counted.
 
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