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I pray that Weiss will do the right thing.

He won't. He was picked to further delay the investigation until after the election. He will also now not be subject to give Congressional testimony. This was Biden/Garland's attempt to hide Weiss from the whistleblower accusations.

In addition, if Weiss was the US Attorney to sign off on Hunter's sweetheart deal, how does he now go and elevate the charges? He'd be atmitting he didn't do his job in the first place.

Like I always say.....you can't out-think these crooks. You simply can't.
 

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Sickening what this country and this complete farce of a government are doing.

People have to rot in prison and be executed for this. It's a 100% Marxist coup takeover.
 

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Sickening what this country and this complete farce of a government are doing.

People have to rot in prison and be executed for this. It's a 100% Marxist coup takeover.

The coup happened in 2020. What we're seeing now are the results.
 

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The coup happened in 2020. What we're seeing now are the results.
Yeah it clearly started then and it continues to this date.

Once they saw they could get away with it they'll just continue to do it. I have little doubt we'll lose both the house and senate in 2024 and then the transfer to full blown Marxism/Totalitarianism will be complete.

Obama put this plan into place starting in 2008 and it began with the mass firing of proven, career military leaders who were faithful to the Constitution and our Country. Now that they have all been replaced with woke Marxist garbage those people will ensure the military is 100% loyal to whatever puppet leader the left installs, Constitution be damned.

The next step from there will unfortunately have to be 1776 Part II, there will be no other solution.
 

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He won't. He was picked to further delay the investigation until after the election. He will also now not be subject to give Congressional testimony. This was Biden/Garland's attempt to hide Weiss from the whistleblower accusations.

In addition, if Weiss was the US Attorney to sign off on Hunter's sweetheart deal, how does he now go and elevate the charges? He'd be atmitting he didn't do his job in the first place.

Like I always say.....you can't out-think these crooks. You simply can't.

I have to agree. Besides there is already something fishy about this appointment. Special Counsels are supposed to be independent of the government. They should be appointed from outsides not from the DOJ. The appointment itself may be illegal so even if Weiss indicts Hunter, he could have an argument to get the indictment thrown out.
 

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Because, you know....View attachment 11873


We know why it leaked. The story about Biden saying "No comment" to a question about the Maui victims is damaging so they took it off the front page by indicting Trump again. The indictment was rushed and mistakes were made.

The indictment itself is incredibly scary. It claims Trump and his lawyers make up a criminal enterprise because they strategized on how to challenge the election results. It is a bizarre concoction of tweets, emails and public statements, along with some factual inaccuracies the prosecutor wove into a nonsensical conspiracy. But once again it is predicated on the notion that Trump was lying when he made claims about voter fraud and the stolen election - back in 2020.

They are making it illegal to challenge or question an election result. Think of how dangerous this is to Democracy. It is a green light to cheat because once the election is certified, no one can investigate or question the outcome.

A good defense lawyer could rip this indictment to shreds starting with the fact that they cannot prove Trump was lying. All they have to prove is that Trump believed, or a reasonable person could believe, there was fraud in the election. Start with the fake story about a water main break in Fulton county. But there ere also dozens of reports of fraud and shenanigans at that time, none of which had been thoroughly investigated at the time Trump called the Georgia Secretary of State. This case should be a slam dunk except we will undoubtedly see another liberal Trump hating judges get the case, and a biased Atlanta jury incapable of objective reasoning. Democrats are counting on it.

I have one other question about this indictment. It is somewhat repetitious of the Jack Smith indictment in that it relies on Trump lied about the election outcome which Smith called fraud. The Georgia case relies on the same claim. Ironically the Georgia case comes from the state where Stacy Abrams falsely accused Brian Kemp of rigging the election she lost.

Here is what she said after the election and she was forced to concede:
“I, on November 16, 2018, acknowledged at the top of my speech that Brian Kemp is the governor of Georgia and I even wished him well at the end of the speech." “And in the middle, I talked about the fact we had a system that he managed, that he manipulated, hurt Georgia voters and the responsibility of leaders is to challenge systems that are not serving the people.”
 

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Why is it DeSantis has no problem disposing of corrupt DA's, but Brian Kemp, a supposed "conservative" can't do the same here?

We know the answer.
 

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I have to agree. Besides there is already something fishy about this appointment. Special Counsels are supposed to be independent of the government. They should be appointed from outsides not from the DOJ. The appointment itself may be illegal so even if Weiss indicts Hunter, he could have an argument to get the indictment thrown out.

Republicans talking shit just to talk shit. Durham was a US Attorney picked by Bill Barr. Republicans should have been demanding an outside prosecutor then. But the fix was in and we didn't know.
 

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Why is it DeSantis has no problem disposing of corrupt DA's, but Brian Kemp, a supposed "conservative" can't do the same here?

We know the answer.

Yep. No one is going to tell me that the AG, who was hated, won an election. I can somewhat buy the argument for Kemp, although I don't fully believe it. These people are all part of the same hypocrisy.
 

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Why is it DeSantis has no problem disposing of corrupt DA's, but Brian Kemp, a supposed "conservative" can't do the same here?

We know the answer.

Because Kemp wants these charges against Trump. Trump started a feud with Kemp after the 2020 election because he thought Kemp was not helping him uncover lection fraud. The name calling ensued and since then I think Kemp has been staunchly anti-Trump.

But on a more technical note, I read that Kemp cannot pardon Trump of these charges because Georgia has a pardon board rather than giving the governor that power.

I recently read an excellent legal analysis of this case that argues the entire case should be moved to federal courts. Kevin McCarthy is already preparing a motion to do this. The argument is the case is based on a federal election, and some defendants and actions were not in Georgia. There is also an argument that since Trump was president at the time, he had presidential immunity from these charges.

I would rather see this case thrown out on constitutional grounds; freedom of speech, and freedom to challenge elections for any reason.

I think I stated before, this case is almost a replication of the case Jack Smith brought against Trump, although Smith's is more consolidated and does not involved RICO charges - which is kind of ridiculous. If this gets moved to federal courts, I can see a path to having the entire case dismissed. But even if only some of the defendants get their cases dismissed it still looks bad for Fani Willis.
 

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It needs to be thrown out because its complete political theatrics and BS.

Kemp is a piece of shit. I'm not sure why he doesn't like his own party's President though I suspect it's because he himself is a globalist piece of shit Rino.

The loser has literally done one good thing as Governor of this state. I hate the bastard and his equally as crooked Sec of State.
 

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It needs to be thrown out because its complete political theatrics and BS.

Kemp is a piece of shit. I'm not sure why he doesn't like his own party's President though I suspect it's because he himself is a globalist piece of shit Rino.

The loser has literally done one good thing as Governor of this state. I hate the bastard and his equally as crooked Sec of State.
I agree, but no one should trust a liberal judge or 12 liberal jurors to care about the law or the evidence.

The Georgia case is literally piling on since it is the same core case as the Jack Smith indictment. Trump lied about the election to get the result overturned. That is the argument. It is bullstuff for 2 reasons. 1. They have to prove Trump lied and didn't believe what he was being told by his advisors. 2. Even if eh did lie he still had every right to say what he said.

Someone posted a 5 minute video of Stacy Abrams claiming she won the election against Brian Kemp and it was stolen from her. She is heard about 30 times saying the election was stolen and she did not lose. It is going to be a powerful piece of evidence if this case gets to trial.
 

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It needs to be thrown out because its complete political theatrics and BS.

Kemp is a piece of shit. I'm not sure why he doesn't like his own party's President though I suspect it's because he himself is a globalist piece of shit Rino.

The loser has literally done one good thing as Governor of this state. I hate the bastard and his equally as crooked Sec of State.

Kemp is a scum bag and he was pimped by Fox. Some folks in Georgia said they supported Kemp because of how he handled the lock downs and I can see it, to some extent.

Kemp is claining there was no election fraud and he's hung his hat on that premise. The interetsting things is that Majorie Taylor Green has stated that her ex-husband went to vote on election day and was told he had already voted by mail in ballot. I'd bet this has happened to a shit ton of people and noone has even given it a look for fear of what they might find that doesn't fit the narrative. Disgraceful.
 

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Kemp is a scum bag and he was pimped by Fox. Some folks in Georgia said they supported Kemp because of how he handled the lock downs and I can see it, to some extent.

Kemp is claining there was no election fraud and he's hung his hat on that premise. The interetsting things is that Majorie Taylor Green has stated that her ex-husband went to vote on election day and was told he had already voted by mail in ballot. I'd bet this has happened to a shit ton of people and noone has even given it a look for fear of what they might find that doesn't fit the narrative. Disgraceful.
Kemp cannot admit to voter fraud because A) it would be on his watch, and B) he will activate Stacy Abrams the election denying wooly mammoth.
 
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