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It wasn’t out of of no where, as far as the reason he was asked about the transfer of power. He was asked that because he was already saying he wouldn’t trust the results if he lost. He wouldn’t trust them if he won, only if he lost. That’s why he was asked that.


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Remind me again, what did Hillary Clinton tell the media Biden should do weeks before the election if he lost.
 

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Never said that either. I said, no one gave a crap about his thoughts or views before he was POTUS. His thoughts and views didn’t have a direct effect on Americans like it did when he was POTUS.


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You are an idiot dude
 

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He didn't want mail in voting because he knew there would be massive corruption, and there was.

This election process for 2020 is a 100% complete sham.

Yet to be proven in court.


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Idiots: "Trump's a RACIST!!!!!!"

Level headed people- "How is he a racist?"

Idiots "Because CNN and MSNBC told me so!!!!!.... They said it!!!!!"

That and all the video of him being racist.


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Never said that either. I said, no one gave a crap about his thoughts or views before he was POTUS. His thoughts and views didn’t have a direct effect on Americans like it did when he was POTUS.


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This is not true. Trump was always on TV giving his thoughts and views. He appeared on Oprah multiple times. People always asked him his opinions on things. The difference is Trump hung out with NY Democrats before and he donated money to their campaigns. The people who took money from him then started calling him a racist when he ran against Hillary. As I said, Trump used to pal around with Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They know he was no racist. It started when Trump got into the birther thing with Obama, because of course questioning Obama's legitimacy had to be because of his race. The irony is the birther movement started from the Clinton campaign.
 

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It really is amazing the level of animosity against this man. Like you said Creeper, he was seen in a positive light by a lot of folks you mentioned and received awards from these minority organizations. You can dig up a lot of shit from someone who's been in the public eye as long as Trump has and it should be easily verifiable. Unfortunately, the left owns main stream media and social media. Trump saw it and warned people and damn if he wasn't right.

On the flip side, no one challenged Joe Biden on anything regarding his past history. He may have gotten a softball question here and there, but nothing like the grilling Trump got on a daily basis and he took all questions and interviews from all the media outlets, unlike the Corpse.

As much as we bag on Trump, I'm disappointed that folks don't see the evolution of the Democrat Party. My family were life long Democrats because they stood for the working man. The Dem party today is run by the elites who funded Biden's campaign. He talks about the working class while telling people that he's going to raise taxes. And, let's be honest, does anyone really believe that it will be limited to those making better than $450,000? These businesses are either going to leave the US or pass any added expenses onto the consumer. And your salary won't increase enough to keep up with the rise in costs. These folks are globalists.

It's like folks thinking they can solve a broken finger by cutting off their hand. I always say the rich can afford it, the poor don't pay for it and the middle class gets fucked with the bill in the end....each and every time. The Democrat Party has been taken over by the wealthy who look to get richer. They've been taken over by Hollywood millionaires and big money donors. Yeah, a real party for the average man and his family.....my ass.

Yes, the plan to raise taxes on those making $450k or more is a lie. First, it won't raise enough money to do what they want to do. Second, he was talking about married couples. Just wait. Single people making about $225k will see their taxes go up to. And of course, repealing the Trump tax cuts means taxes go up for everyone.

But first Democrats need to win the 2 senate runoff election in GA. Without Trump on the ballot (Georgia had around 100k overvotes for Biden) the Republicans should win but given what happened this election I would not take anything for granted. If Republicans take both senate seats Biden is stymied from doing anything like raising taxes. But he can open the boarders again be initiating the ridiculous catch and release program. He can stop building the wall too. My greatest fear though is he will end the travel restrictions with countries that cannot verify the identities of immigrants coming here. We could wind up seeing more incidents like we saw in France recently.
 

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This is not true. Trump was always on TV giving his thoughts and views. He appeared on Oprah multiple times. People always asked him his opinions on things. The difference is Trump hung out with NY Democrats before and he donated money to their campaigns. The people who took money from him then started calling him a racist when he ran against Hillary. As I said, Trump used to pal around with Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They know he was no racist. It started when Trump got into the birther thing with Obama, because of course questioning Obama's legitimacy had to be because of his race. The irony is the birther movement started from the Clinton campaign.

I’m aware of that. Let me ask you question though. What made him change? Why did he start saying such racist things and why pander to racists once he became POTUS?


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This is not true. Trump was always on TV giving his thoughts and views. He appeared on Oprah multiple times. People always asked him his opinions on things. The difference is Trump hung out with NY Democrats before and he donated money to their campaigns.... Trump used to pal around with Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They know he was no racist. It started when Trump got into the birther thing with Obama
People forget Trump was a 9/11 Troofer too, probably still is. Always said "Bush had something to do with it" and was always a Boooooosh hater. Troofer, Birfer, but never a "racist" until he opposed the almighty D.
 

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Never said that either. I said, no one gave a crap about his thoughts or views before he was POTUS. His thoughts and views didn’t have a direct effect on Americans like it did when he was POTUS.


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Then what are you saying? That he became racist overnight as soon as he took office? You don't think people looked at his views before he became President? The dude was the most scrutinized man in America from the time he came down the escalator. A little evidence would be nice.
 

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Then what are you saying? That he became racist overnight as soon as he took office? You don't think people looked at his views before he became President? The dude was the most scrutinized man in America from the time he came down the escalator. A little evidence would be nice.

That’s what I’d like to know. If he wasn’t racist before then why start being one after he became POTUS? Is it maybe because he was making a lot of money off African Americans so that’s why he never really revealed his true self? Maybe once he had some real power to effect Americans and instill his beliefs he decided to reveal his true self? I have no idea why he switched. He’s probably the only one that really knows the truth.


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That’s what I’d like to know. If he wasn’t racist before then why start being one after he became POTUS? Is it maybe because he was making a lot of money off African Americans so that’s why he never really revealed his true self? Maybe once he had some real power to effect Americans and instill his beliefs he decided to reveal his true self? I have no idea why he switched. He’s probably the only one that really knows the truth.
You keep insisting he is racist while providing not one shred of proof. Meanwhile he never was called "racist" when he was a Clinton lover, agreed with Shrillary's description of blacks as "super predators" and was for locking them all up and throwing away the key.

I've never liked Trump and it's been no secret. And I'm not defending him at all either. But it just could be he has never "changed" he's still the same meglomaniac asshole he always was, but became unacceptable to the Ds as soon as he opposed them politically. Therefore they started screaming "rassis!"

It's not like it's any new play they run out of their same old dog-eared playbook. They trot that one out... Well, liberally.
 

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You keep insisting he is racist while providing not one shred of proof. Meanwhile he never was called "racist" when he was a Clinton lover, agreed with Shrillary's description of blacks as "super predators" and was for locking them all up and throwing away the key.

I've never liked Trump and it's been no secret. And I'm not defending him at all either. But it just could be he has never "changed" he's still the same meglomaniac asshole he always was, but became unacceptable to the Ds as soon as he opposed them politically. Therefore they started screaming "rassis!"

It's not like it's any new play they run out of their same old dog-eared playbook. They trot that one out... Well, liberally.

It’s not on me to provide proof. It’s not my job to convince you. The American people are convinced and that’s all that matters. I’m not here to change your mind. I hope you do but that burden isn’t on me. Enough Americans see it and that’s the main reason he was voted out. Maybe one day you will open your eyes? I hope so but that’s on you to look inside yourself and figure out why you don’t see it, that’s not on me.

And when I said you, I don’t mean you specifically. I mean those that refuse to see it.


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You keep insisting he is racist while providing not one shred of proof. Meanwhile he never was called "racist" when he was a Clinton lover, agreed with Shrillary's description of blacks as "super predators" and was for locking them all up and throwing away the key.

I've never liked Trump and it's been no secret. And I'm not defending him at all either. But it just could be he has never "changed" he's still the same meglomaniac asshole he always was, but became unacceptable to the Ds as soon as he opposed them politically. Therefore they started screaming "rassis!"

It's not like it's any new play they run out of their same old dog-eared playbook. They trot that one out... Well, liberally.

And maybe he hasn’t changed at all like you said, he’s just now being called out on it because he’s the POTUS.

Also want to clear something up. I have no problem with Republicans. I would have easily voted for a Republican candidate if I liked what he had in plan for America. Also some of the things Trump has done I liked. We just cannot have a guy that fans the flames of white supremacy as the POTUS. In 4 years if the Republicans have a good candidate my ears are open to what he has to say. We just cannot have a Pres pandering to WS groups and Alt-right groups. It won’t be tolerated.


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he’s just now being called out on it because he’s the POTUS.
Incorrect. It's been a mantra since the moment he put that (R) by his name and stopped funding the Ds. Actually it's been a mantra ever since he made his Birfer views known.

All of this way before he took office.
 

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It’s not on me to provide proof.
In this venue, if you're going to make a factual claim then it IS on you to show proof. Now if it's just offhand opinion that's a different meter.

But you're stating this stuff as fact and ignore proof against it and refuse to pony up any proof of your claims. Really all you're doing is regurgitating the D talking points. Like a mindless servant. A Sycophant.
 

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In this venue, if you're going to make a factual claim then it IS on you to show proof. Now if it's just offhand opinion that's a different meter.

But you're stating this stuff as fact and ignore proof against it and refuse to pony up any proof of your claims. Really all you're doing is regurgitating the D talking points. Like a mindless servant. A Sycophant.

Then I’m going to require that you also show proof of every comment you make disproving he’s a racist.


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