The Nate Livings' deal

[Bob Sacamano]

Basically it boils down to a 2 year, $6.2 million guaranteed contract.

Sounds like the NFL observer quoted to be bewilderd by the "huge" contract we gave him, works for the same team as Sdogo does.

After last year's fiasco where Garrett didn't think the Oline situation through, and then had to scramble to bring back Montrae Holland and an over the hill Derrick Dockery after the youth movement didn't pan out, seems to have learned his lesson. So he brings in a veteran guard that he can trust on the cheap.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah I read some column over it yesterday.

Him and the Bernadeau guy are both basically short term contracts for modest investments. Neither one of them signed a contract that makes it mandantory they start.

 

[Midswat]

Good to hear.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Sounds like a stop-gap deal to me.

 

[Sheik]

Sounds like a stop-gap deal to me.

The problem with that is, you can't replace stop-gap with stop-gap every year.

That's what this team does with it's last line of defense(safeties) and the most important unit on offense. It'd be nice to see some continued improvement on the line. Smith was a huge step in the right direction. Hopefully they can draft a lineman that will stick this year.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The problem with that is, you can't replace stop-gap with stop-gap every year.

That's what this team does with it's last line of defense(safeties) and the most important unit on offense. It'd be nice to see some continued improvement on the line. Smith was a huge step in the right direction. Hopefully they can draft a lineman that will stick this year.

It's clear that they want to continue adding young OGs, while adding insurance behind them.

 

[Sheik]

It's clear that they want to continue adding young OGs, while adding insurance behind them.

Thats fine. Are we in "rebuilding mode"? Or are they trying to win now?

The team has a shitload of really good pieces in place, but it's like the person in charge doesn't understand that there's a window that's closing.

I figure we can have this thing complete, at the rate it's going, in 5 years. That gives you enough time to find two guards, one center, two safeties and another halfway decent edge rusher.

In 5 years, Romo, Witten, Ware and Miles are too old to make it work.

So what is going on? This team always has one of the highest payrolls, but some of the most disappointing production.

 

[Jon88]

^ I agree. The window will be closed in 3 years.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

The problem with that is, you can't replace stop-gap with stop-gap every year.

That's what this team does with it's last line of defense(safeties) and the most important unit on offense. It'd be nice to see some continued improvement on the line. Smith was a huge step in the right direction. Hopefully they can draft a lineman that will stick this year.

I agree. That's why I am hoping they draft two OGs, where one of them would be an OG-OT.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Thats fine. Are we in "rebuilding mode"? Or are they trying to win now?

The team has a shitload of really good pieces in place, but it's like the person in charge doesn't understand that there's a window that's closing.

I figure we can have this thing complete, at the rate it's going, in 5 years. That gives you enough time to find two guards, one center, two safeties and another halfway decent edge rusher.

In 5 years, Romo, Witten, Ware and Miles are too old to make it work.

So what is going on? This team always has one of the highest payrolls, but some of the most disappointing production.

I don't think we're in rebuilding mode, although I think we should be.

Honestly though, fielding a good Oline shouldn't be that hard, in fact, it doesn't require a lot of high picks or resources to do it, outside of the OT position. We've ignored it for years and hoped a Tony Romo type would come out of the UDFA pool to solidify the interior.

How many centers have we drafted in the past 2 decades? 2, Gurode in '02 and Al Johnson in '04. That's pathetic.

We've had some bad luck evaluating OGs. James Marten comes to mind, but even then, we really haven't tried to address that position in the draft either, unless you count Pat McQuistan.

Then we've tried throwing money at the OG position. Nope, hasn't worked either.

I think the philosophy is now to sign UFA linemen on the cheap and put together more draft picks.

 

[dbair1967]

Thats fine. Are we in "rebuilding mode"? Or are they trying to win now?

The team has a shitload of really good pieces in place, but it's like the person in charge doesn't understand that there's a window that's closing.

I figure we can have this thing complete, at the rate it's going, in 5 years. That gives you enough time to find two guards, one center, two safeties and another halfway decent edge rusher.

In 5 years, Romo, Witten, Ware and Miles are too old to make it work.

So what is going on? This team always has one of the highest payrolls, but some of the most disappointing production.

It doesnt matter what they do, you will complain.

If we had signed Ben Grubbs, Carl Nicks and Chris Myers you'd have complained and said all this does is prove the Cowboys have to overpay for other teams free agents, because they cant develop their own. You'd have also said this proves that virtually every draft pick we've made on the OL was a waste.

 

[Sheik]

It doesnt matter what they do, you will complain.

If we had signed Ben Grubbs, Carl Nicks and Chris Myers you'd have complained and said all this does is prove the Cowboys have to overpay for other teams free agents, because they cant develop their own. You'd have also said this proves that virtually every draft pick we've made on the OL was a waste.

~Flush~