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You seem to have an understanding on our cap situation, what's your take on this? I got it off another board. Are your numbers different?
9/9/2010: Signed a seven-year, $57.168 million contract. The cap-conscious deal contains $18 million guaranteed -- no signing bonus but all of Austin's whopping $17.078 million first-year base salary. 2011: $8.54 million, 2012: $1.15 million, 2013: $6.732 million, 2014: $5.5 million, 2015: $6.888 million, 2016: $11.38 million
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4059/miles-austin
His salary/payroll was $17 million, his salary/payroll/cap hit drops to $8.5 million this year, so those using last years payroll figures to try and guestimate that we would be over the cap. The cap hit is $8.5 million less than his payroll figure.
Roy:
10/19/2008: Signed a six-year, $54 million contract. The deal contains $26.6085 million guaranteed, including a $10 million option bonus in the second year, $2 million of Williams' 2010 base salary, and a third-year option bonus of $9.5 million. 2011: $5,109,971, 2012: $6.802 million, 2013: $8.498 million
Roy's salary was $3.4 million last year with the 9.5 million bonus, that's a $12.9 million payroll. Now not all the details are here, but if you subtract the $19.5 million in bonuses + the $2 million guaranteed last year from the $26.6 million in guarantees, then i can guess that Roy's signing bonus was around $5 million, so rounding up to close to a million proration per year, with Roy's base of about $5.1 million, his cap number would be close to $6 million which again, is at about$6.9 million less than his 2010 payroll figure.
Barber:
I actually found his base salary, which i didn't have before:
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/columns/story?columnist=watkins_calvin&id=4947420
5/20/2008: Signed a seven-year, $45 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed, including a $12 million signing bonus and a $4 million roster bonus in the third year. 2011: $4.25 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus due 6/3), 2012: $5.75 million (+ $250,000 roster bonus due 6/3), 2013: $6.25 million, 2014: $7 million
Barber had a salary of $3.86 million and a roster bonus of $4 million, making his payroll $7.86 million for 2010. If you take his $4.75 million in base salary and roster bonus due this year and add a prorated portion of that $12 million bonus(divided by 7), you get a 2011 of cap hit $6.46 million which is a $1.4 million drop.
Now we are at $16.8 million in decreases from last years payroll to this years cap hits just in these 3 players
If you take these rough numbers and add to it the players off the books like Barron, Bowen, Hatcher, Hurd, Kosier, Sensabaugh and Spears, that's another $16 million on last years payroll that is off the books.
Cut Colombo, Olshanksy and Brooking, to free up close to another 10 million and we would be close to $42-3 million to work with, but we would need:
2 starting DEs(maybe one good reserve/rotation guy too)
2 starting Safeties
2 OL(one backup, you may be able to dump Holland's $1 million in process)
1 LB(insurance/backup to Lee)
So even if we are 19 million over based on last years payroll we should have just over 20 million to sign 7-8 players, which I think is very doable, when 3 of them would be backups. In all honesty the $19 million figure I think is the equivalent of the reaction when the Titans rookie punter hit the board in the first preseason game and every hater was ready to rub our nose in it and it never happened again in now 2 years plus college games.
9/9/2010: Signed a seven-year, $57.168 million contract. The cap-conscious deal contains $18 million guaranteed -- no signing bonus but all of Austin's whopping $17.078 million first-year base salary. 2011: $8.54 million, 2012: $1.15 million, 2013: $6.732 million, 2014: $5.5 million, 2015: $6.888 million, 2016: $11.38 million
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4059/miles-austin
His salary/payroll was $17 million, his salary/payroll/cap hit drops to $8.5 million this year, so those using last years payroll figures to try and guestimate that we would be over the cap. The cap hit is $8.5 million less than his payroll figure.
Roy:
10/19/2008: Signed a six-year, $54 million contract. The deal contains $26.6085 million guaranteed, including a $10 million option bonus in the second year, $2 million of Williams' 2010 base salary, and a third-year option bonus of $9.5 million. 2011: $5,109,971, 2012: $6.802 million, 2013: $8.498 million
Roy's salary was $3.4 million last year with the 9.5 million bonus, that's a $12.9 million payroll. Now not all the details are here, but if you subtract the $19.5 million in bonuses + the $2 million guaranteed last year from the $26.6 million in guarantees, then i can guess that Roy's signing bonus was around $5 million, so rounding up to close to a million proration per year, with Roy's base of about $5.1 million, his cap number would be close to $6 million which again, is at about$6.9 million less than his 2010 payroll figure.
Barber:
I actually found his base salary, which i didn't have before:
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/columns/story?columnist=watkins_calvin&id=4947420
5/20/2008: Signed a seven-year, $45 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed, including a $12 million signing bonus and a $4 million roster bonus in the third year. 2011: $4.25 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus due 6/3), 2012: $5.75 million (+ $250,000 roster bonus due 6/3), 2013: $6.25 million, 2014: $7 million
Barber had a salary of $3.86 million and a roster bonus of $4 million, making his payroll $7.86 million for 2010. If you take his $4.75 million in base salary and roster bonus due this year and add a prorated portion of that $12 million bonus(divided by 7), you get a 2011 of cap hit $6.46 million which is a $1.4 million drop.
Now we are at $16.8 million in decreases from last years payroll to this years cap hits just in these 3 players
If you take these rough numbers and add to it the players off the books like Barron, Bowen, Hatcher, Hurd, Kosier, Sensabaugh and Spears, that's another $16 million on last years payroll that is off the books.
Cut Colombo, Olshanksy and Brooking, to free up close to another 10 million and we would be close to $42-3 million to work with, but we would need:
2 starting DEs(maybe one good reserve/rotation guy too)
2 starting Safeties
2 OL(one backup, you may be able to dump Holland's $1 million in process)
1 LB(insurance/backup to Lee)
So even if we are 19 million over based on last years payroll we should have just over 20 million to sign 7-8 players, which I think is very doable, when 3 of them would be backups. In all honesty the $19 million figure I think is the equivalent of the reaction when the Titans rookie punter hit the board in the first preseason game and every hater was ready to rub our nose in it and it never happened again in now 2 years plus college games.
