PENTAGON: Sharing Christian Faith Could Lead to Court Martial... Charges of Treason

[JBond]

SP will be happy.

Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”

Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)--whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.

This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...rt-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith


The man Obama consulted to develop policy.

Weinstein says those guilty of this “treason” must be “punished.” Under federal law, the penalty for treason is death. And the Obama administration is sitting down to talk with this man to craft new policies for “religious tolerance” in our military.

“Sexual assault and proselytizing, according to Wilkerson, ‘are absolutely destructive of the bonds that keep soldiers together.’”

“Today, we face incredibly well-funded gangs of fundamentalist Christian monsters who terrorize their fellow Americans by forcing their weaponized and twisted version of Christianity upon their helpless subordinates in our nation’s armed forces.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...itution-to-Develop-Religious-Tolerance-Policy

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

 

[dbair1967]

This is what happens when a Muslim is CIC

 

[superpunk]

I wish they were doing any of the things your idiot article says they were doing.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I can't wait until Mr. Weinstein starts extolling the virtues of gulags and reeducation camps.

 

[JBond]

I wish they were doing any of the things your idiot article says they were doing.

Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith.

 

[superpunk]

No they aren't.

 

[JBond]

No they aren't.

“Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense, LCDR Nate Christensen said in a written statement. He declined to say if any chaplains or service members had been prosecuted for such an offense.

“Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis and it would be inappropriate to speculate on the outcome in specific cases,” he said.

Ron Crews, the executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, warns that the Air Force policy would “significantly impact the religious liberties of Air Force personnel.”

“Saying that a service member cannot speak of his faith is like telling a service member he cannot talk about his spouse or children,” Crews said. “I do not think the Air Force wants to ban personnel from protected religious speech, and I certainly hope that it is willing to listen to the numerous individuals and groups who protect military religious liberty without demonizing service members.”

 

[superpunk]

Yup still irrelevant

Lolbreitbart
Lolfoxnews

 

[Hoofbite]

“Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense, LCDR Nate Christensen said in a written statement. He declined to say if any chaplains or service members had been prosecuted for such an offense.

“Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis and it would be inappropriate to speculate on the outcome in specific cases,” he said.

Ron Crews, the executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, warns that the Air Force policy would “significantly impact the religious liberties of Air Force personnel.”

“Saying that a service member cannot speak of his faith is like telling a service member he cannot talk about his spouse or children,” Crews said. “I do not think the Air Force wants to ban personnel from protected religious speech, and I certainly hope that it is willing to listen to the numerous individuals and groups who protect military religious liberty without demonizing service members.”

"Declined" is a odd descriptor for a statement made via email. I guess maybe they asked a follow up, or perhaps he just tagged that onto the end of the other quote about case-by-case basis.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/2...Military-says-no-court-martials-sharing-faith

“If a service member harasses another member on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, or disability, then the commander takes action based on the gravity of the occurrence. Likewise, when religious harassment complaints are reported, commanders take action based on the gravity of the occurrence on a case-by-case basis.”

Here's a statement on the Air Force website.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123347054

"The Department of Defense places a high value on the rights of members of the military services to observe the tenets of their respective religions and respects, (and supports by its policy) the rights of others to their own religious beliefs, including the right to hold no beliefs," Navy Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen said in a written statement on the issue."

"Mr. Weinstein is not part of any DOD advisory group or committee, nor is he a consultant to the Defense Department regarding religious matters," Christensen said. "Mr. Weinstein requested, and was granted, a meeting at the Pentagon April 23, with the Air Force judge advocate general and others, to include the deputy chief of chaplains, to express his concerns of religious issues in the military."

 

[dbair1967]

Yup still irrelevant

Lolbreitbart
Lolfoxnews

as opposed to those left wing nut job places that give out nothing but the "facts" right SP?

 

[junk]

I encourage everyone in this country to believe whatever they want. And, largely, I think we are allowed to.

Persecution isn't a term that should be thrown around loosely. People complaining if you want to push your religion into everyone's else's life isn't persecution. Believe whatever you want, but don't push it on me. Keep it out of schools and government.

 

[Jon88]

Good idea. The world would be a much better place without religion.

 

[junk]

Good idea. The world would be a much better place without religion.

I never said that. Just don't push your beliefs on me and keep it out of schools and government

 

[MetalHead]

If the 19 hijackers were Christians,would 9-11-01 ever happened?

 

[Jon88]

I never said that. Just don't push your beliefs on me and keep it out of schools and government

I said that.

And no, 9/11 wouldn't have happened with Christians. Religion is still a disgrace to humanity, no matter which one.

 

[MetalHead]

I said that.

And no, 9/11 wouldn't have happened with Christians. Religion is still a disgrace to humanity, no matter which one.

Oh,so you want a world without religion because of the actions of a particular faith?

 

[Jon88]

Oh,so you want a world without religion because of the actions of a particular faith?

I want a world without religion because religion is ridiculous.

 

[jnday]

I want a world without religion because religion is ridiculous.

Over 90% of the US population believes in some form of a higher being, God. Have you ever considered that you arevwrong? It is arrogant to think that you know more than all these people.

Now, religion is a man made invention. Men came up with Islam, the Catholic Church, Baptist, etc. I agree that all the religions seem a little ridiculous and that is because of man's involvement.

As for me, I am not going to force my beliefs on anyone. It is their choice to burn in Hell or not.

 

[Jon88]

The burning in Hell idea was invented to get you to practice religion and give them your money.

 

[MetalHead]

"If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under."-Ronald Reagan

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” -John Adams

"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian." -George Washington.

The country you live in,and many in this world die trying to come to,was founded under religious values.
Now,observe how quickly that dissolves after getting away from those values.See the news,see what becomes of a godless country.

Reagan said it best.