Jon88

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So much for Tomahawk Cruise Missiles, JBond...

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The U.S. Navy is tapping the power of the Force to wage war.

Its latest weapon is an electromagnetic railgun launcher. It uses a form of electromagnetic energy known as the Lorentz force to hurl a 23-pound projectile at speeds exceeding Mach 7. Engineers already have tested this futuristic weapon on land, and the Navy plans to begin sea trials aboard a Joint High Speed Vessel Millinocket in 2016.

“The electromagnetic railgun represents an incredible new offensive capability for the U.S. Navy,” Rear Adm. Bryant Fuller, the Navy’s chief engineer, said in a statement. “This capability will allow us to effectively counter a wide range of threats at a relatively low cost, while keeping our ships and sailors safer by removing the need to carry as many high-explosive weapons.”


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The massive railgun that needs just one sailor to operate it relies on the electromagnetic energy of the Lorentz force—the combination of electric and magnetic forces on a point charge—for power.

The Navy likes the weapon for several reasons, not the least of which it has a range of 100 miles and doesn’t require explosive warheads. That makes it far safer for sailors, and cheaper for taxpayers. According to the Navy, each 18-inch projectile costs about $25,000, compared to $500,000 to $1.5 million for conventional missiles.

“[It] will give our adversaries a huge moment of pause to go: ‘Do I even want to go engage a naval ship?’” Rear Admiral Matt Klunder told reporters. “Because you are going to lose. You could throw anything at us, frankly, and the fact that we now can shoot a number of these rounds at a very affordable cost, it’s my opinion that they don’t win.”

The Navy’s been talking about using railguns for the past ten years. The Office of Naval Research launched a prototype program in 2005, with an initial investment of $250 million committed through 2011. The Navy anticipates spending about that much more by 2017.

Of course the Army is interested in having one too, and the Pentagon is in general interested in many aspects of the technology. In July, the Navy will display the electromagnetic railgun prototype at San Diego Naval Base.

“Frankly, we think it might be the right time for them to know what we’ve been doing behind closed doors in a Star Wars fashion,” said Klunder. “It’s now reality. It’s not science fiction. It’s real and you can look at it.”
 

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I am not convinced. So they have perfected a cannon?? Wtf. I mean bad ass sure, but technology of the future? I guess I am just not sold on a guy shooting non explosive shells is going to have a very high rate of accuracy from any distance.
 

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I don't see the excitement over conventional war weaponry either. In the event of an EMP it will not matter, and dare to send our troops to war, you have a bunch of pansies pretending to care about the troops and bloated body counts.
 

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I don't see the excitement over conventional war weaponry either. In the event of an EMP it will not matter, and dare to send our troops to war, you have a bunch of pansies pretending to care about the troops and bloated body counts.

I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say here. Care to elaborate?
 

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I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say here. Care to elaborate?

Being able to shoot it out with naval forces is fine for conventional war, but the threat of non-conventional war is more of a threat. As it stands no one is going to try and go toe to toe with our military, so any advances in that area is only creating weaponry that isn't going to be used all that much, unless we sell it to someone else. An EMP loaded rcoket doesn't require a close naval proximity and can be delivered from Asia. It destroys communication with such conventional weapons as this.

As for part two, we don't seem to like conflict on a conventional scale, as we saw during Bush's administration. Some can say it was because he lied, which he did, but that's only half the truth. The gross politicization of troop deaths and body counts has disappeared and concern for our veterans, both deployed and now home has certainly diminished, despite the existing problems and worse, the killing of an Ambassador and the marines who tried to help him.

Our under-handed interventions in Syria and Libya are different matters of course. Despite the cry that we shouldn't be the world police and the general faulting of such actions as the cause of necessitated going into Iraq and Afghanistan, we don't really appear to give a crap that we're repeating ourselves.
 

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I assume our military technology is EMP shielded, they have been talking about EMP since the 90's.
 

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I hope so, but is our nation? It's only reasonable to think that there is a firm protocol for our military concerning lack of communication with the mainland, but how long would our military last with this nation in the kind of disarray an EMP would cause? The biggest threat to our military is the threat to our homeland, not conventional weapons in war.
 

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I assume our military technology is EMP shielded, they have been talking about EMP since the 90's.

Or late 60s (early 70s?) when they first tested high-altitude nukes and it knocked out power in Hawaii and other Pacific islands...

What are you thinking about in your EMP scenario, VTA? A rogue one-off or an all out attack from the Russians? We're screwed if the latter, and I don't think any intelligence suggests someone like North Korea or Iran is anywhere close to obtaining a thermonuclear device. But yeah, it would shut this country down.

I think a huge solar storm is more of a threat in that area, and it is real. Wasn't it in the mid-late 1800s when we had solar discharge huge enough to cause telegraph papers to ignite? That happens today and we're practically in the dark ages.
 

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Or late 60s (early 70s?) when they first tested high-altitude nukes and it knocked out power in Hawaii and other Pacific islands...

What are you thinking about in your EMP scenario, VTA? A rogue one-off or an all out attack from the Russians? We're screwed if the latter, and I don't think any intelligence suggests someone like North Korea or Iran is anywhere close to obtaining a thermonuclear device. But yeah, it would shut this country down.

I'm only guessing, but honestly, NK is who I had in mind. China is more supportive of them than they really give out, admonishing lil Kim when he gets naughty, but if China were inclined they could support them as proxies and provide them with whatever they need. Russia is making noise, but I'm more worried about China and it's little lunatic neighbor.

I did a quick search and coincidently some are saying that NK may have that capability. Search

I don't know anything about the 'news' sites making these claims, but some one else is obviously worried about it. :popcorn

I think a huge solar storm is more of a threat in that area, and it is real. Wasn't it in the mid-late 1800s when we had solar discharge huge enough to cause telegraph papers to ignite? That happens today and we're practically in the dark ages.

So many threats, so little time... :Outtahere
 

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That NK has or is close to an H-bomb? That's orders of magnitude more difficult than a fission bomb, which pretty much anyone can make... As I'm sure you know. But a fission bomb can't be made powerful enough a cause a widespread EMP.

I guess if they stole one somehow or someone gave them one... But I guess I disagree with you on China. From everything I've seen they do want to be more of a part of the world community (and have to be to sustain their economy) than Russia does and I think they see NK as a pain in the ass.

Now I do think that at some point we could have some trouble with China, as in with those disputed Japanese islands. But I can't imagine us doing anything about it. They aren't some backwards and broke country anymore.
 

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It's funny how China was once everybody's bitch. The French, the British, the Japanese and now look at them.
 

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The Navy comes out with a weapon never before seen and that no one else on the planet has and some people are worried about China and North Korea.

Beats anything I've seen.
 
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