Garrett says lack of turnovers led to defensive coordinator turnover

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Garrett says lack of turnovers led to defensive coordinator turnover





Garrett says lack of turnovers led to defensive coordinator turnover
Posted by Mike Florio on January 24, 2013, 4:21 PM EST

So why did the Cowboys dump the 3-4 defense coordinated by Rob Ryan and adopt in its place a 4-3 scheme featuring multiple former Jon Gruden assistants?

Garrett says the turnover comes from a lack of turnovers.

“The Bears had 44 takeaways,” Garrett said this week at the Senior Bowl, via Carlos Mendez of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. “We had 16. That’s 28 more opportunities with the ball. Give me some of those 28 opportunities. That’s something that we really sat back and thought a lot about, had a lot of discussions about — what’s the best way to try to achieve that, and then, ‘OK, you want to do that, now who are the guys who can help implement that?’”

So with Monte Kiffin running the defense and Rod Marinelli coaching the defensive line, the goal will be to force more fumbles and interceptions.

And if they don’t, maybe the various members of Jon Gruden’s former staffs will once again be answering to Gruden himself.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

What good would it have been if the Cowboys' defense created turnovers, and then the offense pisses it away? The lack of turnovers had nothing to do with YOU, Garrett and your inability to score more than 10 points in the first half, but only one time.

 

[dbair1967]

What good would it have been if the Cowboys' defense created turnovers, and then the offense pisses it away? The lack of turnovers had nothing to do with YOU, Garrett and your inability to score more than 10 points in the first half, but only one time.

I hear you, but to think the offense would have done absolutely nothing more by getting the ball alot more on a short field is pretty ridiculous too. And it wasnt just last year, this has gone on for years. We constantly have to go the length of the field for points.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I hear you, but to think the offense would have done absolutely nothing more by getting the ball alot more on a short field is pretty ridiculous too. And it wasnt just last year, this has gone on for years. We constantly have to go the length of the field for points.

How many points did we make off of turnovers with a short field? Garrett's offense seemed to always stall in the red zone, and if not he lacked the inability to sustain drives.

I'm not so hung up on turnovers as in fumble recoveries or INTs. If you think about it, punts/3 and outs can be considered turnovers. If the defense doesn't get a "turnover", but forces the opposing offense to punt the ball, is just as good as a turnover, because it adds up to the same thing: the opposing offense failure to score on that possession.

The Cowboys' defense forced a lot of punts/3 and outs, and got the ball back for the offense; but oftentimes, no sooner they got the ball back for the offense, and barely stepped off the field, they have to go back on, because the offense pissed tha topportunity away by going 3 and out.

How many turnovers did the Cowboys' offense commit? If Ryan was fired for the lack of turnovers, Garrett should be fired for the abundance of turnovers.

 

[dbair1967]

If Ryan was fired for the lack of turnovers, Garrett should be fired for the abundance of turnovers.

He was/is going to be by all accounts. Somebody else will be calling plays.

 

[peplaw06]

If you think about it, punts/3 and outs can be considered turnovers. If the defense doesn't get a "turnover", but forces the opposing offense to punt the ball, is just as good as a turnover, because it adds up to the same thing: the opposing offense failure to score on that possession.

that's just dumb. punts = turnovers?? lol

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

that's just dumb. punts = turnovers?? lol

That add up to the SAME THING IDIOT. Of course you can't grasp that.

If an offense throws and INT, or fumbles, or goes 3 and out and PUNTS, or turns the ball over on downs... WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? They add up to the exact same thing: the offense failed to score on that possession, and ball is still TURNED OVER to the other team.

 

[dbair1967]

That add up to the SAME THING IDIOT. Of course you can't grasp that.

If an offense throws and INT, or fumbles, or goes 3 and out and PUNTS, or turns the ball over on downs... WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? They add up to the exact same thing: the offense failed to score on that possession, and ball is still TURNED OVER to the other team.

Punts dont always yield a short field thoguh, even if its after a 3 and out.

Alot of times turnovers do yield a short field.

 

[Jon88]

But, but, but... I thought he needed shutdown corners to create turnovers?

I cannot believe we hired that idiot. I know the janitorial crew is happy his fat ass is gone.

 

[63echo]

Garrett trying hard to find an excuse, any excuse, that makes sense.

 

[cmd34(work)]

Scapegoating should be our new Team Motto.

No turnovers on Defense? Ryan's fault
Too many turnovers on Offense? Romo's fault
Can't run? Skip Peete's fault.
Crappy bottom half of the roster? Injuries.

How about the people most responsible take some f'ing responsibility?

Meanwhile, we still have Jerry and Jason. Feeling really good about next year's chances.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Let’s clear this up: Cowboys coach Jason Garrett didn’t say the main reason DC Rob Ryan was fired was because of lack of takeaways
By Brandon George / Reporter
3:48 pm on January 24, 2013

MOBILE, Ala. – Reports have surfaced over the last two days that Cowboys coach Jason Garrett said the main reason that defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was fired a week after the season ended was because of the defense’s lack of takeaways in 2012.

That’s not what Garrett said. In fact, that would be totally out of character for Garrett to phrase something in that manner. Garrett’s quotes were taken out of context.

Garrett only spoke to the media once from Senior Bowl practices this week. Garrett talked Tuesday – after the morning practice – to reporters from The Dallas Morning News, Fort Worth Star-Telegram and, eventually, WFAA Ch. 8.

Garrett talked for about 10 minutes and said that it was a very tough decision to not retain Ryan. Garrett called Ryan a “hell of a coach” and talked about how much respect he has for him.

At one point, Garrett also praised the Cowboys’ recent hires of defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and defensive line coach Rod Marinelli, who had been Chicago’s defensive coordinator.

The Cowboys tied for 29th in the NFL last season with 16 takeaways and Marinelli’s Bears team led the league with 44 takeaways.

“That’s 28 more opportunities with the ball,” Garrett said. “Give me some of those 28 opportunities.

“That’s something that we really sat back and thought a lot about, had a lot of discussions about, ‘What’s the best way to try to achieve that?’ And, then, ‘OK, you want to do that, now who are the guys who can help implement that?”

In no way did Garrett directly say that the primary reason Ryan was fired was because of the lack of Cowboys’ takeaways.

Now, did it play a part? Of course.

But don’t get carried away.

Ryan’s two-year tenure with the Cowboys was criticized more for what he did than what he didn’t do. Ryan tried to do too much with his complex scheme, often confusing players, and if you’re dying to find a primary reason for why Ryan was fired that would trump the lack of takeaways.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Lost any respect i had left for Garrett. Defenses tend to create more turnovers when they are playing with a lead. Defenses also create turnovers when they have a home field advantage. BTW, the defense did create more turnovers late in the season. Just same lame excuses.

 

[Jon88]

“That’s 28 more opportunities with the ball,” Garrett said. “Give me some of those 28 opportunities - just not in the first half."


FIFY, Jason.

 

[dbair1967]

Scapegoating should be our new Team Motto.

No turnovers on Defense? Ryan's fault
Too many turnovers on Offense? Romo's fault
Can't run? Skip Peete's fault.
Crappy bottom half of the roster? Injuries.

How about the people most responsible take some f'ing responsibility?

Meanwhile, we still have Jerry and Jason. Feeling really good about next year's chances.

be quiet Hos lover/turncoat

 

[Bob Sacamano]

be quiet Hos lover/turncoat

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huh?

 

[dbair1967]

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huh?

mad sprint he made to join risen turd/hos CZ mock draft

 

[Bob Sacamano]

oh

 

[peplaw06]

That add up to the SAME THING IDIOT. Of course you can't grasp that.

If an offense throws and INT, or fumbles, or goes 3 and out and PUNTS, or turns the ball over on downs... WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? They add up to the exact same thing: the offense failed to score on that possession, and ball is still TURNED OVER to the other team.

lol

About 40 yards of field position. And you're probably 10 times less likely to score on a punt return than a turnover.

The fact that you're trying to defend that statement just further cements the fact you're a moron.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

I told all of you idiots in week 5 this defense was a piece of shit and precisely for this reason.

All you morons came in defending Ryan and his horrendous defense.

Thankfully our FO is smarter than the fools on this board