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IRVING, Texas -
Let's say you were to offer Houston Texans pass-rusher Mario Williams the exact same contract you gave DeMarcus Ware in 2009. Seven years, $79 million, with $40 million guaranteed.

Now, let's say he accepts.

You'd have to switch to a 4-3 defense. Williams has shown he can play in a 3-4, but in Wade Phillips' scheme last year he was playing the exact spot Ware plays in Dallas, and Williams isn't a better pass-rusher than Ware. You wouldn't want either of them dropping into coverage as often as Anthony Spencer does in the current scheme - Ware's too good in the rush, and Williams is too big to be covering people in space.

So, in this new 4-3 defense, which, by the way, Jason Garrett left open as
a possibility
when speaking to the media in January, Ware is your weak side defensive end, and Williams plays on the strong side, where his size and strength could help against the run. At different times on this site, we've talked about how moving from the 3-4 is tricky because it's the system in which Ware has been so successful, but come on, Ware would be good in a 1-5, a 3-8 or 7-2-2.

That bumps Jay Ratliff out of the nose tackle spot. Make him the defensive tackle on Williams' side. In the first round, draft a mother of a defensive tackle to stick between him and Ware - let's say Dontari Poe, the freak from Memphis, because why not?

Sean Lee is a classic 4-3 inside linebacker, maybe even a better fit there than he is in the 3-4. Play Bruce Carter as the weak side 'backer, and Victor Butler on the strong side. Go ahead and draft another outside linebacker in, like, Round 5.

Pick a cornerback in the second round. If you get to camp and he's not better than Orlando Scandrick, fine, you need three of them anyway, so he'll play on nickel downs, when you can pull Butler, or slide Butler down to end, pushing Williams inside next to Ratliff, or Poe, whoever is fresher.

If you've given Williams the same contract as Ware, he'll eat up about $10 million of the $12 million or so you have to spend.

So, you release Kenyon Coleman and save $1.9 million. Release David Buehler and you save another $1.3 million.

Now you've got about $5 million to spend. Use that on a safety or a guard, or a safety and a guard, or Laurent Robinson, if you've just got to have him back.

Move some more money around in Doug Free's contract, or Scandrick's, or Jason Witten's or Jay Ratliff's. Sign this veteran backup quarterback.

Round 3 and Round 4, get another guard and another safety. Get the best player available in Round 6 and Round 7, and with the extra conditional pick or two that you'll pick up.

Next, release Terence Newman on June 1, save $4 million and use that to sign your rookie class.

How does all this sound to you?
 
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He makes some good points, and this is why I believe Williams signs with a team like Atlanta or the Giants.

I mean, he won't take Ware's spot so where would he play here? The only thing I can think of is we could sign him and seeing we have 4-3 looks we could use him in those schemes, but it would be a waste of money if he's not on the field all the time.
 

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He makes some good points, and this is why I believe Williams signs with a team like Atlanta or the Giants.

I mean, he won't take Ware's spot so where would he play here? The only thing I can think of is we could sign him and seeing we have 4-3 looks we could use him in those schemes, but it would be a waste of money if he's not on the field all the time.

Undoubtedly we'd change to a base 4-3 scheme, and we definitely have most of the peices in place to make it a pretty easy change. Lee can definitely be a bigtime MLB, and Bruce Carter's position at UNC was weakside OLB in a prostyle 4-3 scheme. Ratliff, Spears, Brent, Lissemore and Hatcher could all play DT in a 4-3, and Spears/Hatcher could play LDE some as well.
 

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Victor Butler would be a major liability as a 4-3 OLB. The rest sounds good.
 

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Victor Butler would be a major liability as a 4-3 OLB. The rest sounds good.

Yeah I dont see him being part of it. If anything he might be a rotation guy at RDE.

They'd need to get someone to play strong OLB, but that wouldnt be overly difficult.
 

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A defensive line of Williams, rat, and ware would be incredible. There's no way I'd draft Poe at 14 and start butler. I would start Brent or Lissemore and draft Kuechly at 14...that's sounds much better to me
 

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I would seriously consider this. But instead of Poe, I'd still take DeCastro. Wouldn't need the FA guard then. Or consider Keuchly. A front 7 of Ware, Lissemore, Ratliff, Williams, Kuechly, Lee, and Carter would be beautiful. CB in the 2nd or 3rd. Depth would be a concern, but we can't have it all in one offseason.
 

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Yeah I dont see him being part of it. If anything he might be a rotation guy at RDE.

They'd need to get someone to play strong OLB, but that wouldnt be overly difficult.

Yep. Butler would probably a decent rotational player in a scenario like that.
 

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I don't think Dallas would absolutely have to switch.

Ware dropped into coverage about 15% of the time. Spencer about 27% of the time.

Spencer also played more passing downs than Ware so it's kind of hard to know exactly what Spencer was doing when Ware was on the field or when Butler came in.

Anyway, if you took the number of passing snaps that Ware took last year and hit 20% dropping into coverage, it's like 2.5 less pass rushes a game.

Throw in the fact that it would increase the rushing attempts from the opposite side, you'd essentially have teams guess who will be rushing and who won't.

The idea that it wouldn't work because you want Ware rushing "X" amount or whatever is kind of silly. Neither Woodley or Harrison broke 70% last season and Woodley was more effective than Ware on a "per rush" basis. Harrison was more effective than Spencer.

How many times a player rushes doesn't matter. How effective he is when he does rush is all that counts.

Teams would essentially have to flip a coin in deciding which direction to provide extra blocking help and they'd lose almost every time both of the guys.
 
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I'd really like to know what Hostile's people are telling him about this Mario Williams thing.

If I had people, I'd have my people get with his people, then my people would get back to me. Then I'd get with you guys and let you know what's really going on.
 

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I'd really like to know what Hostile's people are telling him about this Mario Williams thing.

If I had people, I'd have my people get with his people, then my people would get back to me. Then I'd get with you guys and let you know what's really going on.

Hos' people said we aren't getting Williams!
 
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