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The Times has an editorial today about the future of the U.S. Postal Service:

Postal officials say they must close about 3,700 underused post offices (there are 32,000 nationally) while offering alternative services through local businesses. They also want to consolidate hundreds of regional processing centers and eliminate Saturday mail deliveries.

An aide to Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont was warning me about this last week. There are organic reasons for all of this: The U.S. Postal Service is staring down the same barrel trained at our magazine and newspaper businesses, i.e. its revenue model is being wiped out by the internet.

But politics also plays a huge part in this. In 2006, in what looks like an attempt to bust the Postal Workers' Union, George Bush signed into law the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006. This law required the Postal Service to pre-fund 100 percent of its entire future obligations for 75 years of health benefits to its employees – and not only do it, but do it within ten years. No other organization, public or private, has to pre-fund 100 percent of its future health benefits.

"No one prefunds at more than 30 percent," Anthony Vegliante, the U.S. Postal Service's executive vice president, told reporters last year.

The new law forced the postal service to come up with about $5.5 billion a year for the ten years following the bill's passage. In 2006, before those payments kicked in, the USPS generated a small profit. Not surprisingly, the USPS is now basically broke.

The 2006 law also bars the Postal Service from offering "nonpostal services," which means the USPS can't, say, open up a bank, or an internet cafe, or come up with any new entrepreneurial ideas to generate new income, as postal services do in other countries.

The transparent purpose of this law, which was pushed heavily by industry lobbyists, was to break a public sector union and privatize the mail industry. Before the 2006 act, the postal service did one thing, did it well, and, minus the need to generate profits and bonuses for executives, did it cheaply. It paid for itself and was not a burden to taxpayers.

Post offices also have a huge non-financial impact: In a lot of small towns, the post office is the town, and shutting them down will basically remove the only casual meeting place for people in mountain areas and remote farming villages and so on. Of course, there's always one Wal-Mart for every dozen or so post offices, so people I guess can drive the extra twenty miles and meet there ...

This is a classic example of private-sector lobbyists using the government to protect its profits and keep prices inflated. Sen. Sanders is pushing a bill that would delay the end of Saturday delivery for two years, and prevent a number of post-office closings, but the writing is on the wall, unless there's a public outcry. So definitely write your congressman and ask him to roll back Bush's idiotic law, and at least give the Post Office a chance to sink or swim on its own.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...s-kill-the-post-office-20120423#ixzz1styjGxN7
 
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I don't get why Obama didn't just change this back? It's pretty well-known that the USPS is sinking rapidly.
 

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I like everything about republicans other than their disdain for Unions. Unions built this country and afforded many, many opportunities for everybody.

For all you workers out there, thank Unions for your 8 hour work day and the safety standards on your job. Sans, Sheik who pays Mexican laborers under the table.
 
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I am on the fence about the postal service I think it might have past its usefulness and could be better served as a private company.

But I just learned about this new legislation and it reeks of tampering to make the service less viable.

Its kind of interesting that a party that is so anti union and high government wages would make a issue out of funding this particular pension so far into the future.
 

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I don't get why Obama didn't just change this back? It's pretty well-known that the USPS is sinking rapidly.

No public pressure I guess. I mean most of us don't use mail, so it's kind of a failing industry on it's own. But if it fails, at least it should fail on it's own and not through legislation that made it impossible to compete so it could be eliminated as competition for the private sector.

The USPS is a great example of what we can do when we socialize certain aspects of our life, works out better for everyone.
 

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I am on the fence about the postal service I think it might have past its usefulness and could be better served as a private company.

But I just learned about this new legislation and it reeks of tampering to make the service less viable.

Its kind of interesting that a party that is so anti union and high government wages would make a issue out of funding this particular pension so far into the future.

My beef with this is that no postal service means a lot more people seeking unemployment.
 

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No public pressure I guess. I mean most of us don't use mail, so it's kind of a failing industry on it's own. But if it fails, at least it should fail on it's own and not through legislation that made it impossible to compete so it could be eliminated as competition for the private sector.

The USPS is a great example of what we can do when we socialize certain aspects of our life, works out better for everyone.

Use another term.
 

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My beef with this is that no postal service means a lot more people seeking unemployment.

Yeah me too but I am no fan of propping up a failing business continually just for the sake of saving jobs.

It would be a painful transition but if the business is broke let it fail.
 

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Yeah me too but I am no fan of propping up a failing business continually just for the sake of saving jobs.

It would be a painful transition but if the business is broke let it fail.

I doubt the USPS fails. With this bill it might, but I don't think it totally goes away.
 

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I like everything about republicans other than their disdain for Unions. Unions built this country and afforded many, many opportunities for everybody.

For all you workers out there, thank Unions for your 8 hour work day and the safety standards on your job. Sans, Sheik who pays Mexican laborers under the table.

Unions became useless after WWII

Now its a bunch of money grubbing do nothings who want as much shit as they can get from someone else's dime
 

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Unions became useless after WWII

Now its a bunch of money grubbing do nothings who want as much shit as they can get from someone else's dime

Unions will never be useless as long as companies still retain the temerity to say that if you want more money, just work more hours ie overtime.
 

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Unions will never be useless as long as companies still retain the temerity to say that if you want more money, just work more hours ie overtime.

you can believe that if you want, but unions are worthless
 

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Unions became useless after WWII

Now its a bunch of money grubbing do nothings who want as much shit as they can get from someone else's dime

It's just amazing to me that you buy the shit you say.

It's like big business lobbyists shit this stuff out, and you gobble it up like it's Thanksgiving Day Dinner. Who do you think wants to get rid of unions and regulatory agencies so they can do whatever they want again? Whose shit do you think you're eating?
 

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you can believe that if you want, but unions are worthless

Um, what you're replying to is not made up. If there were no arbritration process, brought to you by Unions, thank you very much. Noone would be able to negotiate raises. WHICH STILL GO ON TODAY, mind you. Moron.
 

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Unions became useless after WWII

Now its a bunch of money grubbing do nothings who want as much shit as they can get from someone else's dime

That is the hands down the dumbest thing you have ever posted.

Do you ever try and think outside the daily talking points.
 

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That is the hands down the dumbest thing you have ever posted.

Do you ever try and think outside the daily talking points.

proofs in the pudding dude

unions are garbage

great thing back when we had the industrial revolution and all, but nothing but trouble now
 
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It's just amazing to me that you buy the shit you say.

It's like big business lobbyists shit this stuff out, and you gobble it up like it's Thanksgiving Day Dinner. Who do you think wants to get rid of unions and regulatory agencies so they can do whatever they want again? Whose shit do you think you're eating?
Many hard core "conservatives" say this same crap over and over.
 

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proofs in the pudding dude

unions are garbage

great thing back when we had the industrial revolution and all, but nothing but trouble now

What is this proof you speak of.

Please show your "Proof"
 
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