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2 kickers is idiotic. Keeping Holland only to cut him the next day.
 

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2 kickers is idiotic. Keeping Holland only to cut him the next day.

clearly trying to trade him or make sure they have another vet to sign before they moved him. That must be why he started the other night. They had to show teams he was healthy.

and as far as thomas goes it is a bummer, but at the same time mcann went through this last year and he ended up back here. Having thomas on the practice squad would have been nice but at the same time he is a project.

and to the OP, if thomas made the roster and were somehow forced onto the field against the jets sunday and made a bad play you would be commenting jerry is a moron because he has guys like thomas on the roster.

Personally I hope we repace mcann with a vet. I wish they could get a guy like hanson to come here for a 2 year deal. I dont think newman will be playing for awhile and hanson could step right into the nickel allowing scandrick to play outside......not going to happen though.
 

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To the OP. Thomas would not even made the active game day roster. So why are the Cowboys sick? They still have Butler, the UFDA, who has had a much better camp than Thomas and outplayed him in preseason.

But hey! I guess it's easier to rip on Jerry. Simple minds can only handle simple answers.
 

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To the OP. Thomas would not even made the active game day roster. So why are the Cowboys sick? They still have Butler, the UFDA, who has had a much better camp than Thomas and outplayed him in preseason.

But hey! I guess it's easier to rip on Jerry. Simple minds can only handle simple answers.
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To the OP. Thomas would not even made the active game day roster. So why are the Cowboys sick? They still have Butler, the UFDA, who has had a much better camp than Thomas and outplayed him in preseason.

But hey! I guess it's easier to rip on Jerry. Simple minds can only handle simple answers.

Yup.. shouldn't be sick over Thomas at all. He didn't look that great at any point. Butler was and is better.
 

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The point is that they are sick over losing him when they could of kept him by not being stupid. Not that Thomas is so great. Just another in the long line of mistakes made by our GM.
 
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As a mid round rookie we should've protected him and given him a chance rather than expose him and risk losing him. Like what happened, you aren't going to sneak too many rookie drafted players with any kind of potential through waivers. Jerry's a fool.
 

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As a mid round rookie we should've protected him and given him a chance rather than expose him and risk losing him. Like what happened, you aren't going to sneak too many rookie drafted players with any kind of potential through waivers. Jerry's a fool.

In general, you do not want to expose drafted rookies to the waiver process. Too many teams know these players and have studied them. A lot of times it is a chance to get your hands on a player missed out on drafting. If we truly liked this player enough to try to develop him, like you said it was not a very smart move.
 

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As a mid round rookie we should've protected him and given him a chance rather than expose him and risk losing him. Like what happened, you aren't going to sneak too many rookie drafted players with any kind of potential through waivers. Jerry's a fool.

Keeping a player just because you drafted him makes no sense, if he is not good enough right now to make the roster he shouldn't be on it. You guys would be whining about a poorer player being kept because he was drafted if the opposite were happening.

We get it, you hate Jerry. Fine.
 

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Keeping a player just because you drafted him makes no sense, if he is not good enough right now to make the roster he shouldn't be on it.

Of course not. But cutting a player you really would like to develop while keeping others on the roster you really do not (Holland) makes even less sense.

There are roster games that teams play. It is just that we are not very good at playing them. The best move would be to try to sneak him through today or later in the week and cutting a veteran who would not have to go through waivers with the express agreement they would be back on the roster Monday for practice. Teams often do that, especially if there are players they know will be ready at a moment's notice.
 

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Of course not. But cutting a player you really would like to develop while keeping others on the roster you really do not (Holland) makes even less sense.

There are roster games that teams play. It is just that we are not very good at playing them. The best move would be to try to sneak him through today or later in the week and cutting a veteran who would not have to go through waivers with the express agreement they would be back on the roster Monday for practice. Teams often do that, especially if there are players they know will be ready at a moment's notice.

Actually this team has been good at this type of thing.....Thomas wasn't ready to help and can't be used for a roster spot right now, it's a chance you have to take if the player is not as ready as you thought. Again, holland was held back most likely to try and trade or to be insurance if they couldn't find another veteran.

The back end of drafts cause this same kind of problem for nearly every team. Now if you want to Complain that the extra kicker is a waste the I agree, I think it is stupid...I also think a designated kicking coach is entirely stupid also.....however special teams are important and having two kickers worked well in 09 and having one sucked last year......but if you think special teams are not important go ask the giants and chargers about them, they both missed the playoffs because of them last year.....

And finally the reality of this situation is a guy liKe Thomas has to do something on special teams.....he did seem to cover kicks particularly well and he is not a return man.....mcann is a returner...I don't think a good one,but he is.

And for the record, I dont think mcann is a guy who can handle playing against good wr and would prefer we go get a vet As a 4 and have ball as the 5
 
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Of course not. But cutting a player you really would like to develop while keeping others on the roster you really do not (Holland) makes even less sense.

There are roster games that teams play. It is just that we are not very good at playing them. The best move would be to try to sneak him through today or later in the week and cutting a veteran who would not have to go through waivers with the express agreement they would be back on the roster Monday for practice. Teams often do that, especially if there are players they know will be ready at a moment's notice.

Exactly. But...you just hate Jerry apparently.
 

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The point is that they are sick over losing him when they could of kept him by not being stupid. Not that Thomas is so great. Just another in the long line of mistakes made by our GM.


So how were they stupid? And it's easy to call it a mistake AFTER the fact. No team hits on every draft position. So how is it a mistake? I guess Garrett had no input?
 

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As a mid round rookie we should've protected him and given him a chance rather than expose him and risk losing him. Like what happened, you aren't going to sneak too many rookie drafted players with any kind of potential through waivers. Jerry's a fool.

Then who do you cut? I'm fine with them letting Thomas go. Butler is my concern. But I guess you didn't get Garrett's memo, where he said he didn't care about a players past accolades and draft position but is all about TODAY.

But it's easier to always blame Jerry. It's the default button, just press it.

IT'S ABOUT COMPETITION. There is no protection. You can't have it both ways.
 
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Keeping a player just because you drafted him makes no sense, if he is not good enough right now to make the roster he shouldn't be on it. You guys would be whining about a poorer player being kept because he was drafted if the opposite were happening.

We get it, you hate Jerry. Fine.


THANK YOU. And the question is that who should the Cowboys cut instead so that Thomas would have a spot?
 

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Of course not. But cutting a player you really would like to develop while keeping others on the roster you really do not (Holland) makes even less sense.

That's cock-eyed. Holland---no longer on the team, would more than likely been on the active day roster and would provide IMMEDIATE depth. Thomas would have been what? The #6 CB, and more than likely would not suit up on the active game day roster.

So you think it makes sense to sacrifice DEPTH on our young Oline for the sake of developing a player? Got it.

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There are roster games that teams play. It is just that we are not very good at playing them. The best move would be to try to sneak him through today or later in the week and cutting a veteran who would not have to go through waivers with the express agreement they would be back on the roster Monday for practice. Teams often do that, especially if there are players they know will be ready at a moment's notice.

If a team wants a player they will ge3t them, no matter how you try to "sneak" them. LOL.
 

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