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12:10 AM on Tue., Feb. 28, 2012


The Dallas Cowboys could certainly use some offensive line help next season, so when the name David DeCastro came up as a potential draft target came up, no one seemed to outright question whether the Stanford guard was worth a spot in the first round ... except one writer.

After watching footage of DeCastro and talking to coaches, CBS NFL insider Pat Kirwan came to the conclusion that while a team couldn't be faulted for taking the big guard in the middle of the first round, his current skill set could make him a second round player.

The film indicated DeCastro is a physical guy who really likes to punish a defender when he gets the chance, but saying that, he gets himself in trouble with his overaggressiveness. DeCastro was on the ground six times during the game, usually from an overaggressive technique, and as the line coach pointed out, "That could wind up being 8-10 times in an NFL game."
I know David is a smart player and understands he must control his tempo and trust his technique. Easier said than done, especially for first-round picks who line up as starters in Week 1.


Even though the Kirwan didn't mention the Cowboys by name, he did mention that while teams with offensive line issues could use DeCastro, because he's the top player at a relatively thin position, that could be the main reason why his stock is going up. And if a team like the Cowboys does decide to draft DeCastro with the 14th pick, they could be missing out on a potential franchise corner or pass rusher.

My good friend Gil Brandt and I talked about taking a guard in the first round. As he pointed out, it isn't the guard you are taking but rather the guy you will be passing up at a franchise position like pass rusher or cornerback that makes it tough to take the guard. His point was: The pass rusher or corner you see in the second round might be much worse than the guard you will see in the second round. It's the value of the pick and the big picture that comes into play when considering a player like DeCastro.
It remains to be seen what the Cowboys are going to do with the draft quickly approaching, but Kirwan's opinions should give the Cowboys some food for thought before they make a decision.​
 
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Really Pat Kirwan? That's just ridiculous. No wonder this guy isn't a GM anymore.
 

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Yeah that's right Kirwan. A kid that came onto one of the top football programs in the nation and started immediately as a freshman and remained the starter for all three of his years, and during which only gave up ONE SACK and that was in his freshman year... isn't worthy of a 1st round pick., because he's...overaggressive? :WTF

I can think of worst traaits a player can have, but being oversgressive isn't one of them, especially for an Olineman. This team could use some overagressiveness and more.
 

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And if a team like the Cowboys does decide to draft DeCastro with the 14th pick, they could be missing out on a potential franchise corner or pass rusher.

I would venture to guess those so called potential franchise corners / pass rushers expected to be there at 14 have more question marks than DeCastro.
 

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I would venture to guess those so called potential franchise corners / pass rushers expected to be there at 14 have more question marks than DeCastro.

That's just it. By the time you get to 14, you're generally talking about the third best corner or third best pass rusher, because the better ones have already been snatched up. So would you rather have the best guard or the best runner-up at corner?
 

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Everyone has their heart set on Decastro like he's some messiah interior lineman, so everyone assaults Kirwan without stopping to wonder if he might have a point.

Fact is you don't take guards mid-first because they're not worth it unless they're some godly prospect. It is *possible* Decastro has some problems that show up once you start looking close at him.
 

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And is there really a big dropoff between him and Glenn? Trading down a few slots, picking up Glenn and an extra third in the process, may not be a bad Plan B.
 
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Everyone has their heart set on Decastro like he's some messiah interior lineman, so everyone assaults Kirwan without stopping to wonder if he might have a point.

Fact is you don't take guards mid-first because they're not worth it unless they're some godly prospect. It is *possible* Decastro has some problems that show up once you start looking close at him.

Just so you know, I'm for BPA at 14. If it's DeCastro then fine, if not it'll probably be a DE/OLB or DT, CB.

There's only one corner though I'd take over drafting DeCastro, and that's Claiborne. Kirkpatrick and Jenkins I wouldn't even consider it. I'm a firm believer there's still talented corners from the second round on.

I know the same could be said for guards, but in this case I'd go with DeCastro over those two corners I mentioned. Now if for some reason prospects like these are available, Coples, Upshaw, Brown, maybe Brockers or Kuechly then I'd go with one of them before DeCastro.

But as it looks right now DeCastro could be the BPA. for us at 14.

Also, if for some reason you don't think DeCastro is the best player available and those others I mentioned aren't there, then you trade out of 14 and pick up an extra pick.
 

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And is there really a big dropoff between him and Glenn? Trading down a few slots, picking up Glenn and an extra third in the process, may not be a bad Plan B.

If DeCastro is gone that is a great plan.

if DeCastro is available and we pass and trade down, I'm going to have Steven Jackson flashbacks.
 

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If DeCastro is gone that is a great plan.

if DeCastro is available and we pass and trade down, I'm going to have Steven Jackson flashbacks.

I think Decastro is the better player too, but Glenn does have the bonus that he could potentially play RT as well, in addition to playing either G spot.

In the end, I'd be pretty happy with either and both would have a positive impact on the OL.
 

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And is there really a big dropoff between him and Glenn? Trading down a few slots, picking up Glenn and an extra third in the process, may not be a bad Plan B.


I'd be fine with that. But Kirwan is offbase.
 
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Everyone has their heart set on Decastro like he's some messiah interior lineman, so everyone assaults Kirwan without stopping to wonder if he might have a point.

Fact is you don't take guards mid-first because they're not worth it unless they're some godly prospect. It is *possible* Decastro has some problems that show up once you start looking close at him.

What pass rusher/CB is better value at 14? If there is one, or someone at another position rated obviously higher than DeCastro, then I'd be all for it. But I wouldn't rule him out just because guards aren't to be taken in the mid first.
 

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What pass rusher/CB is better value at 14? If there is one, or someone at another position rated obviously higher than DeCastro, then I'd be all for it. But I wouldn't rule him out just because guards aren't to be taken in the mid first.

There is none.
 

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If DeCastro is gone that is a great plan.

if DeCastro is available and we pass and trade down, I'm going to have Steven Jackson flashbacks.

This is why I never get hung up on draft prospects. Shit like that happens all the time. So I usually compile a list of 4 or 5 guys, or 2 different scenarios that I would like for us to do in the 1st round.
 

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Generally, I'd be against drafting a guard that high. Or a guard in 1 even. Most teams can find quality starting guards later in the draft.

However Dallas has shown they can't and it is a position of need. I really like the prospect. If you can find a guy that you plug in for the next 10 years, that is good value at 14.

Glenn scares me just because of his size. I worry those guys slow down quicker as they age.
 

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Generally, I'd be against drafting a guard that high. Or a guard in 1 even. Most teams can find quality starting guards later in the draft.

However Dallas has shown they can't and it is a position of need. I really like the prospect. If you can find a guy that you plug in for the next 10 years, that is good value at 14.

Glenn scares me just because of his size. I worry those guys slow down quicker as they age.


That is a legitimate concern, but one would hope that Woicik could do something for him.
 
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