Bruce Allen on McNabb trade: “We would make the move again”

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Bruce Allen on McNabb trade: “We would make the move again”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 18, 2011, 6:55 PM EDT

There has been a lot of dissection of Dononvan McNabb’s year gone wrong in Washington during the lockout because, well, we don’t have a lot else to talk about.

Whether the guy likes wristbands or not, the trade for McNabb just didn’t work in 2010. But that hasn’t changed G.M. Bruce Allen’s mind that it was the right move.

“We would make the move again for Donovan,” Allen told Kelli Johnson of CSNWashington.com Saturday. “The 6-10 record isn’t what we dreamed for our season. Once again, I can’t pinpoint one person to blame for that. We have to improve on special teams, defense, and offense.”

Allen says it takes time for a new staff and quarterback to grow together, but made no promises about McNabb’s future. Allen insists he appreciates Donovan as a player and disputed the idea that McNabb didn’t work well with offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.

“I don’t know if I would use that characterization,” Allen said. “I thought they gelled very well at times.”

The McNabb trade set the Redskins organization back. They gave up a second- and fourth-round pick for him. They paid McNabb roughly $15 million last year, including a $3.5 million signing bonus in November after they benched him.

And once this lockout ends, they are expected to quickly say goodbye.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

I'm sensing that the Skins are laying the ground work down for a return to McNabb....At least I'm hoping so..:naughty

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What a ****ed up situation all around. Bad trade, bad season, bad renegotiated deal, bad fallout from it.

 

[Midswat]

I'm glad they traded for him, and I hope they do keep him this year.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I'm glad they traded for him, and I hope they do keep him this year.

You may not like McNabb, but even you have to admit that the Redskins have not handled this situation all that well, and that McNabb has continued to take the high road. What perhaps the Redskins fail to understand is that McNabb is well-liked in the league among players and they are watching how the Redskins are doing him and that may hurt them in getting free agents. Yeah they will throw money at the potential free agents, but is that the kind of players they still want? Players that will come for the koney and to hell with winning.

 

[Midswat]

You may not like McNabb, but even you have to admit that the Redskins have not handled this situation all that well,

McNabb came to the Redskins feeling entitled, was unreceptive to Kyle Shannahan's coaching, and refused to wear a wristband.

He's deserved everything that has happened to him in Washington.

and that McNabb has continued to take the high road.

It's because he's thin-skinned and is afraid of confrontation. That, and most of what has been said about him has been true.

What perhaps the Redskins fail to understand is that McNabb is well-liked in the league among players and they are watching how the Redskins are doing him and that may hurt them in getting free agents.

The Redskins have never had an issue signing free agents, and their handling of McNabb won't change that one bit.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

McNabb came to the Redskins feeling entitled, was unreceptive to Kyle Shannahan's coaching, and refused to wear a wristband.

He's deserved everything that has happened to him in Washington.

Feeling entitled? You mean uppity, correct? No need for me to finish the rest. Well, the Shanahan's praised him so much to where they ENTITLED him to a very large contract extension, then they turn around throw him under the bus. Very bi-polar.

So when did he become "unresponsive" to Kyle's coaching---before or after the praises and large contract extension? When did the not wearing the wristband become and issue? That's all bs.


If anyone that feels they are entitled it's Kyle Shanahan; nepotism has a way of promoting that. Very doubtful that he would be where he is now were it not for his bloodline. I always found it quite telling that when they mention the young, up and coming future HCs, Kyle Shanahan's name is not mentioned.


Kyle has all his father's arrogance with none of his father's accomplishments. A true definition of having a false sense of entitlement.

It's because he's thin-skinned and is afraid of confrontation. That, and most of what has been said about him has been true.

No. It's that the s.hit's beneath him. He doesn't have to say a thing, when the Shanahan's actions says it all. Everyone knows that the Redskins are a clusterf.uck. always in search of a scapegoat. Who will be next up on the altar?


As for everything they say about McNabb being true, well the Shanahans SAID that McNabb was the classiest person in the [Redskins] organization and then proceeded to reward him with a large contract extension.

I guess what you really mean is that I-hate-McNabb-and-thus-any-and-all-things BAD-said-about-him-are-true.

The Redskins have never had an issue signing free agents, and their handling of McNabb won't change that one bit.

No doubt. I even said as much. They will always be able to find guys to play for top dollar that only cares about the top dollar and winning being a distand-distant second consideration. Everyone knows that free agents do not go to the Redskins because they want to win. They will always be able to sign those kind of players.


But for the quality ones that hold winning as paramount, yeah, this handling of McNabb would impact their decision.

 

[Rock Slamdance]

This is all because Donovan McNabb is black.

 

[Midswat]

A few things, Laz -

• First, I said 'entitled.' Not uppity. I appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.
• No shit the Redskins lauded him with praise and a contract extension after signing him. That happens with virtually every big name player acquisition.
• Regarding McNabb "taking the high road"... don't you think it's just a little odd that issues and drama follows this guy around? He's had to deal with it for years in Philadelphia for a variety of reason's, and he's had to deal with it in Washington. And the detractors aren't all the same people (i.e. the media). He's caught negative attention from former players, coaches, AND the media. In fact, you could make the argument that McNabb has been the most media-coddled player since the Rush Limbaugh incident. How many other QB's could literally choke away a Super Bowl and never get called out for it?
• He becamse unresponsive to Kyle & Mikes coaching after he was signed. Makes sense, right?
• He refused to wear a wristband throughout the season. This became public after the season, and when McNabb was confronted about it, he refused to comment. If your boss accused you of sticking your dick in the coffee pot, would you refuse to comment on it, or would you adamently state it wasn't true? You'd deny it. McNabb didn't deny it because it was true.
• And this is why McNabb is "always taking the high road" -- because a lot of the negative criticisms directed his way is warranted and true. He's a fraud.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

This is all because Donovan McNabb is black.

I'm certain that's probably one of the reasons---a major one, that you don't like McNabb.

I didn't like McNabb when he played for the Eagles, and I didn't like McNabb when he played for the Redskins. If he were to play for any team outside of the Cowboys' divisional opponants, I'd be ambivalent towards him.

You on the otherhand I'm sure have a deep-seeded hatred towards McNabb that has nothing to do with football.

You foolishly mistake my "defending" of McNabb as for me "jacking off" for him. I don't have to like McNabb to recognize that the Shanahans are full of s.hit.

 

[Midswat]

I'm certain that's probably one of the reasons---a major one, that you don't like McNabb.

Yeah, we hate McNabb because he's black.

But we love our Cowboys. It's because all 53 guys on our roster are white!

Wait....

What???????

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

A few things, Laz -


First, I said 'entitled.' Not uppity. I appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.

I know what you said, but I was addressing as to what you meant as in the undercurrent to what you said.

No shit the Redskins lauded him with praise and a contract extension after signing him. That happens with virtually every big name player acquisition.

Really? 10 weeks into the season, and two weeks after he was benched? Your problem is that you mistakingly believe that the contract extension took place either right when the Redskins acquired McNabb via trade or at the beginingg of the season.

Regarding McNabb "taking the high road"... don't you think it's just a little odd that issues and drama follows this guy around? He's had to deal with it for years in Philadelphia for a variety of reason's, and he's had to deal with it in Washington. And the detractors aren't all the same people (i.e. the media). He's caught negative attention from former players, coaches, AND the media. In fact, you could make the argument that McNabb has been the most media-coddled player since the Rush Limbaugh incident. How many other QB's could literally choke away a Super Bowl and never get called out for it?

What players and coaches? What drama specifically? I don't know what youa re talking about but apparently you haven't been to Philadelphia because they do any and all but coddle McNabb. They are downright vicious. Which kind of undercuts your claim of him being thin-skinned, because there is no way that he would have lasted as long as he did in Philthy and the way he has been assailed by the media there and fans alike, if he had a thin skin. They are not the worst fanbase for nothing. They booed the guy right when he was drafted.

I haven't seen anyone give Peyton Manning any grief for his choking away of the Super Bowl against the Saints, and don't give me this crap about how he already won one because that has nothing to do with that game.


And so what if he was coddle for the sake of your arguement, why do you hate on him? Hate the ones that coddle him. Your hatred of McNabb goes beyond just football.

He becamse unresponsive to Kyle & Mikes coaching after he was signed. Makes sense, right?

He got benched in the Lions' game in week 8, for supposedly not having the "cardiovascular fortitude" to run a two-minute drill, for not knowing the playbook, and for not wearing a wristband, and yet two weeks later after the benching they say he's the classiest person in the organization and give him a large contract extension. This was done in WEEK 10, not at the beginning of the season or during the offseason prior.

He refused to wear a wristband throughout the season. This became public after the season, and when McNabb was confronted about it, he refused to comment. If your boss accused you of sticking your dick in the coffee pot, would you refuse to comment on it, or would you adamently state it wasn't true? You'd deny it. McNabb didn't deny it because it was true.

That's a very stupid analogy. However it made me laugh and reminisce. Although it wasn't a coffee pot, a former boss of mine did accuse me of sticking my dick into her honey pot---I didn't deny it; she ordered me to do it---I didn't deny her---the pleasure. Might as well have been a coffee pot, because I had her ass perculating.

My name may not be Maxwell, but I was in the HOUSE.

She did call me Brim, because I filled her to the rim.

I went starbuck wild on her.

She said I was good to the last drop.

Anyway, what kind of boss knowing that their employee was sticking their dick into coffee pots and then turns around and gives them a big raise and promotion? That's what you are suggesting.

But to answer your question, I would not dignify such an accusation with an answer.


You said he hadn't worn the wristband all the regular season, but if that were an issue then what sense does it make to say to his face and to the public of how he's the most classiest guy in the the organization and give him a large contract extension, and then turn around and spit venom on him because he wouldn't wear a f. ucking wirstband?

And this is why McNabb is "always taking the high road" -- because a lot of the negative criticisms directed his way is warranted and true. He's a fraud.

Yeah whatever.


You'll say any and every negative thing about McNabb is true because it suits your agenda. You're not the most objective voice when it coems to McNabb.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Yeah, we hate McNabb because he's black.

But we love our Cowboys. It's because all 53 guys on our roster are white!

Wait....

What???????

Nobody says there is not hypocrisy within racism.

 

[Midswat]

I know what you said, but I was addressing as to what you meant as in the undercurrent to what you said.

I stopped reading right here.

If you're going to alledge that I'm racist, or I have a disdain for McNabb because of the color of his skin, then you're too ****ing stupid to 'debate' anything with.

Kindly **** off.

 

[Midswat]

Nobody says there is not hypocrisy within racism.

You'd know. You're the biggest racist on these forums.

 

[Rock Slamdance]

I'm certain that's probably one of the reasons---a major one, that you don't like McNabb.

I didn't like McNabb when he played for the Eagles, and I didn't like McNabb when he played for the Redskins. If he were to play for any team outside of the Cowboys' divisional opponants, I'd be ambivalent towards him.

You on the otherhand I'm sure have a deep-seeded hatred towards McNabb that has nothing to do with football.

You foolishly mistake my "defending" of McNabb as for me "jacking off" for him. I don't have to like McNabb to recognize that the Shanahans are full of s.hit.

Yes. I am a racist. I mean, whats next, a Jew tightend?