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JEFFERSON CITY | Female Democratic lawmakers have come up with a tongue-in-cheek response to last week's Missouri House vote objecting to the Obama administration’s mandate that health insurance policies include birth-control coverage.

They introduced a bill restricting vasectomies.

“If we are going to seriously restrict access to birth control used by over 98 percent of Missouri women and widely used since 1960, then it’s only fair we legislate men’s access as well,” one of the bill’s sponsors, Democratic Rep. Stacey Newman of Richmond Heights, said in a statement.

The anti-vasectomy bill reads in part: “In determining whether a vasectomy is necessary, no regard shall be made to the desire of a man to father children, his economic situation, his age, the number of children he is currently responsible for, or any danger to his wife or partner in the event a child is conceived. A vasectomy shall only be performed to avert the death of the man or avert serious risk of substantial and irreversible physical impairment of a major bodily function of the man.”

Nine women co-sponsored the bill. No men were asked sign on in support.

The fierce and emotional debate playing out across the nation over the contraception issue has included its fair share of symbolism. The Missouri House vote last week was a non-binding resolution, but it still sparked a protest from seven female House Democrats who said they were denied their chance to speak against the bill.

In Washington, D.C., Republicans caught flak for holding a public hearing on the contraception issue that included testimony from an all-male panel. Democrats responded with a “hearing” of their own that featured one female witness.

Republicans have argued that federal mandate violates a constitutional right to religious freedom, since many religious groups object to the use of contraceptives, sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs.

Democrats counter that the issue was really about women’s health, not religion, and that women deserve access to preventative care.


Newman’s bill is similar to anti-vasectomy legislation filed in Georgia after an anti-abortion bill was debated in that state’s Legislature.

Yesterday, a push by Republican U.S. Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri to repeal the federal mandate was defeated by Democrats.

Read more here: http://midwestdemocracy.com/article...ed-response-birth-control-vote/#storylink=cpy
 

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Fair is fair?

How is that even a valid comparison?

Agreed, this only makes those women look stupid. This is a tough issue but pulling stunts like this does not help their cause. The dumbest of the womens rights crowd will love it but anyone with a shred of intelligence will realize how dumb this was.
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I love poorly thought out atheistic analogies.

These women could all be Christian for all you know. If lawmakers want to restrict women's access to birth control based on the church's desire to be a dick, then turnabout is fair play.
 

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I guess noone has heard of hyperbole to make a point.

I guess no one has heard of digression either. Hyperbole has a time and a place and it is not in the halls of Congress. My wife is pro choice and pro Obama mandate and she agrees with me. It is a shame that you are blindly liberal and will accept these tactics to support your cause.
 

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I guess no one has heard of digression either. Hyperbole has a time and a place and it is not in the halls of Congress. My wife is pro choice and pro Obama mandate and she agrees with me. It is a shame that you are blindly liberal and will accept these tactics to support your cause.

It's a shame that fuck off. Did you mean discretion? Did you read anything about abortion or Obama in there?

The point is, if women are being denied access to health-care by the Church's Penis-Club who seems to only make rules which oppress women and keep them in their place as baby-making sandwich producers, then the same rules should apply to men, and no vasectomies should be covered either. Introducing a bill like this to lawmakers illustrates the hypocrisy. Don't speak out against it when you clearly didn't even understand the message.
 
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These women could all be Christian for all you know. If lawmakers want to restrict women's access to birth control based on the church's desire to be a dick, then turnabout is fair play.
Improper response.
 

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And this bill is no more a waste of time than what congress has had to endure in congressional hearings from the silly hat bishops (notably all male) the church has trotted out to give testimony and whine about how persecuted they are for being forced to cover contraception in their healthcare plans. At least this farce only has to be endured by a state congress.
 

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It's a shame that fuck off. Did you mean discretion? Did you read anything about abortion or Obama in there?

The point is, if women are being denied access to health-care by the Church's Penis-Club who seems to only make rules which oppress women and keep them in their place as baby-making sandwich producers, then the same rules should apply to men, and no vasectomies should be covered either. Introducing a bill like this to lawmakers illustrates the hypocrisy. Don't speak out against it when you clearly didn't even understand the message.
Thanks, auto correct didn't want my typing the right word.

I understand the point they are making, I just think it is a shame they are using Rush Limbaugh tactics to get it across instead of logic and reason. Show me where churches provide access to visectomies for contraception instead of writing garbage legislation to block it.
 

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And this bill is no more a waste of time than what congress has had to endure in congressional hearings from the silly hat bishops (notably all male) the church has trotted out to give testimony and whine about how persecuted they are for being forced to cover contraception in their healthcare plans. At least this farce only has to be endured by a state congress.
They can do it so I can do it, AMIRITE??!?!
 

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Thanks, auto correct didn't want my typing the right word.

I understand the point they are making, I just think it is a shame they are using Rush Limbaugh tactics to get it across instead of logic and reason. Show me where churches provide access to visectomies for contraception instead of writing garbage legislation to block it.

The problem is allowing an organization to opt out of coverage their employees need whenever their sensibilities are offended. If you allow that, you bastardize the whole point of the legislation anyway.
 

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The problem is allowing an organization to opt out of coverage their employees need whenever their sensibilities are offended. If you allow that, you bastardize the whole point of the legislation anyway.
That is a logical argument, but I don't see it anywhere in the original article or anything else concerning this garbage bill in Missouri.
 
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